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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #245 on: September 22, 2014, 04:47:06 AM »
For me they're 4/5 great episodes so far, with the 5th still being enjoyable. I think S8 is well on track to be the best season of the modern series so far, and I expect it will only get better towards the end. I don't think any of the previous seasons have been this good at this point in the season.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #246 on: September 22, 2014, 05:56:09 AM »
So far, I'd say:

1. Listen






2. Into the Dalek
3. Time Heist
4. Deep Breath






5. Robot of Sherwood

Though I've enjoyed pretty much everything so far, and I hope that that continues - though with the exception of The Caretaker, all of the remaining stories sound like absolute winners so far.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #247 on: September 22, 2014, 05:58:49 AM »
I'd agree with that ranking, although I'm really not sure which I prefer out of Into the Dalek and Time Heist yet. Once I rewatch Time Heist I might make up my mind, but they're about tied for me right now.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #248 on: September 22, 2014, 09:19:46 AM »
We do love ranking things on DTF don't we. :lol

1. Listen
2. Robot of Sherwood
3. Time Heist
4. Deep Breath
5. Into the Dalek

I've really enjoyed all four though. Really great consistency in quality so far, which combines very well with a variety of styles to make the overall quality fantastic.

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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #249 on: September 22, 2014, 09:58:10 AM »
1. Listen
2. Dalek
3. Sherwood
4. Deep Breath
5. Time Heist

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« Reply #250 on: September 22, 2014, 10:50:56 AM »
1. Listen (Unsurprisingly)
2. Deep Breath
3. Time Heist
4. Into The Dalek
5. Robot Of Sherwood

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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #251 on: September 22, 2014, 11:03:34 AM »
This might be the first time that I've seen a consensus on the first spot.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #252 on: September 22, 2014, 01:20:02 PM »
1. Listen
2. Into the Dalek

3. Time Heist
4. Deep Breath


5. Robot of Sherwood

I'm really looking forward to the next half of the season. I hear "Kill the Moon" is going to be a fantastic episode in particular.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #253 on: September 22, 2014, 01:46:46 PM »
The ones that I am anticipating the most are "Kill the Moon", "Mummy on the Orient Express" and the two-part finale.
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« Reply #254 on: September 22, 2014, 03:02:15 PM »
I can't wait for Kill The Moon! But I have a feeling The Caretaker will be surprisingly good as well!
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #255 on: September 22, 2014, 03:03:45 PM »
I've yet to see a Capaldi episode that I didn't enjoy, but it seemed to be the least interesting of the remaining ones for me, and that robot that you saw in the Next-Time-trailer looked pretty darn campy.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #256 on: September 22, 2014, 04:28:12 PM »
Well, put one of the most alien doctors of all time undercover as a janitor, the comedy alone should be worth it! Plus, I think it will kickstart the chain of events leading up to all the future developements.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #257 on: September 22, 2014, 05:49:00 PM »
What's so special about Kill The Moon?

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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #258 on: September 22, 2014, 08:07:01 PM »
I don't know anything about future episodes aside from episode names, but I'm excited for the ending two parter. How could it not be amazing?

Next week's episode looks like another "filler" episode. I don't mean that as a negative thing, it just doesn't appear to be like an important episode to the season. But The Doctor as a janitor? That looks like a lot of fun!
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #259 on: September 23, 2014, 03:20:36 AM »
Next week's episode looks like another "filler" episode. I don't mean that as a negative thing, it just doesn't appear to be like an important episode to the season.
I dunno, hard to tell. It certainly seems to do more than previous episodes on the whole Clara/Danny thing, which seems to be a big part of the arc (having met Orson as well). As is often the case with Moffat, we won't really know until the end of the season!

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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #260 on: September 23, 2014, 03:52:02 AM »
Next week's episode looks like another "filler" episode. I don't mean that as a negative thing, it just doesn't appear to be like an important episode to the season.
I dunno, hard to tell. It certainly seems to do more than previous episodes on the whole Clara/Danny thing, which seems to be a big part of the arc (having met Orson as well). As is often the case with Moffat, we won't really know until the end of the season!

Oh right, the Danny Pink thing! Moffat has a writing credit on it too. The Doctor currently knows very little of Clara's latest love interest, so things will likely progress there. I was only thinking of the monster itself, so it doesn't seem to be a really pivotal episode.

But even then, we may still see more of Missy and the promised land. This week looks to be another robot, and we've already had a few other robots involved with that story line. Coincidence? Maybe, but I'm all for more robots. :lol
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #261 on: September 23, 2014, 06:07:23 AM »
Next week's episode looks like another "filler" episode. I don't mean that as a negative thing, it just doesn't appear to be like an important episode to the season.
I dunno, hard to tell. It certainly seems to do more than previous episodes on the whole Clara/Danny thing, which seems to be a big part of the arc (having met Orson as well). As is often the case with Moffat, we won't really know until the end of the season!

Oh right, the Danny Pink thing! Moffat has a writing credit on it too. The Doctor currently knows very little of Clara's latest love interest, so things will likely progress there. I was only thinking of the monster itself, so it doesn't seem to be a really pivotal episode.

But even then, we may still see more of Missy and the promised land. This week looks to be another robot, and we've already had a few other robots involved with that story line. Coincidence? Maybe, but I'm all for more robots. :lol

Actually from what I've heard, there's another character besides Danny that appears in The Caretaker that carries over to the following episode, Kill the Moon, which seems to set up the rest of the season.

What's so special about Kill The Moon?

Well, for starters, the writer of the episode (Peter Harness) was instructed by Steven Moffat to "Hinchcliffe the shit out of the first half of the episode." Furthermore, apparently the last scene in the episode is Moffat's favorite moment in the entire season.

Here's the official plot summary that was announced:
"In the near future, the Doctor and Clara arrive on a decrepit shuttle making a suicide mission to the Moon. Crashing on the lunar surface, they find a mining base full of eviscerated corpses, spider-like creatures scuttling about in the dark, and a terrible dilemma."
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #262 on: September 23, 2014, 06:13:50 AM »
What is Hinchcliffe? I want to know whether it's something that should excite me or not. :lol
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #263 on: September 23, 2014, 06:17:12 AM »
What is Hinchcliffe? I want to know whether it's something that should excite me or not. :lol

Not what; Who. Hinchcliffe was the showrunner for the early Tom Baker years, which are generally considered to be the golden age of Doctor Who. So yes, that's something that should definitely excite you. :hefdaddy
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #264 on: September 23, 2014, 06:20:13 AM »
Eh, I'm not really into classic Who, so that doesn't excite me. Nothing about that episode jumps out at me, but I'm sure it will be fantastic like the rest of the season. The season arc is unfolding so slowly and subtly that I can't wait to see the later half of the season and how it all comes together.
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« Reply #265 on: September 23, 2014, 06:32:00 AM »
Eh, I'm not really into classic Who, so that doesn't excite me. Nothing about that episode jumps out at me, but I'm sure it will be fantastic like the rest of the season. The season arc is unfolding so slowly and subtly that I can't wait to see the later half of the season and how it all comes together.

Eh, fair enough. I'm generally not the biggest fan of Classic Who either, but when it was good, it was generally great. Especially the Hinchcliffe era, imo. It was a great blend of sci-fi and gothic horror. :metal

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In fact, just rewatching this clip, it really stands out to me how similar Peter Capaldi's Doctor is to Tom's. Capaldi is definitely a darker Doctor, but he often sounds like a Scottish version of Tom and he has that same presence of authority too.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #266 on: September 23, 2014, 09:34:26 AM »
I think he's still more Pertwee mixed in with Smith

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« Reply #267 on: September 23, 2014, 09:38:01 AM »
I think he's still more Pertwee mixed in with Smith

I see the Pertwee influence in his outfit, but I can hardly see any real influence on how Capaldi acts anything like Pertwee, or more especially like Smith. The big influence on his acting really seems to be Tom Baker.

His Doctor as a whole though really seems influenced by 1, 4, 6, 7 and 9.
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #268 on: September 23, 2014, 09:43:50 AM »
Yeah I would say so far he is most similar to Tom Baker. He can be a bit antagonistic at times which reminds me slightly of Colin Baker as well. Early days though, and really he's a little different to all of them, which is exactly how it should it be with DW.

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« Reply #269 on: September 23, 2014, 09:50:52 AM »
Well, put one of the most alien doctors of all time undercover as a janitor, the comedy alone should be worth it! Plus, I think it will kickstart the chain of events leading up to all the future developements.

Well at least he won't be disguised as a maid again.

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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #270 on: September 27, 2014, 09:14:21 PM »
Another good episode. My favourite attribute of the current Doctor is that he's a bit of a jerk to people, so this was a great episode for him. Lots of funny lines. I underestimated this episode.

After the trailer for The Caretaker, everyone was saying that the random school teacher looked like the 11th Doctor, which I thought was just going to be a small nugget at best. I liked that it became an important part of the story. :lol

I wonder if in future The Doctor will still have the invisibility watch? If it was one-use, they probably should have had it destroyed or worn out or something.
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« Reply #271 on: September 28, 2014, 04:14:43 AM »
Really liked the episode. 12th seems to developing a bit more of a wider personality than before, which is awesome.

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« Reply #272 on: September 28, 2014, 06:00:10 AM »
Another good episode. My favourite attribute of the current Doctor is that he's a bit of a jerk to people, so this was a great episode for him. Lots of funny lines. I underestimated this episode.

After the trailer for The Caretaker, everyone was saying that the random school teacher looked like the 11th Doctor, which I thought was just going to be a small nugget at best. I liked that it became an important part of the story. :lol

I wonder if in future The Doctor will still have the invisibility watch? If it was one-use, they probably should have had it destroyed or worn out or something.
Really liked the episode. 12th seems to developing a bit more of a wider personality than before, which is awesome.

I'm amazed that neither of you, nor any of the other Whovians here at DTF, are raving about the moment in the episode where 12 whistles Pink Floyd. :lol

So yeah, 12 is definitely my Doctor now. :tup
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #273 on: September 28, 2014, 06:06:51 AM »
Aaaand I must have missed that! Did he really?
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #274 on: September 28, 2014, 06:25:34 AM »
I'm amazed that neither of you, nor any of the other Whovians here at DTF, are raving about the moment in the episode where 12 whistles Pink Floyd. :lol

So yeah, 12 is definitely my Doctor now. :tup

I caught it on second viewing, but since I hate PF, I didn't think it was worth raving about. :biggrin:

Aaaand I must have missed that! Did he really?

Yep, he whistles a bit of Another Brick in the Wall (or whatever, I don't really know The Wall) right after Clara tells some kids off.
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« Reply #275 on: September 28, 2014, 06:35:35 AM »
Aaaand I must have missed that! Did he really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=306wiHz20fI

It's even better when you realize what lyrics he's whistling at that part too. :lol
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Re: Doctor Who v. Patrick Troughton
« Reply #276 on: September 28, 2014, 06:43:50 AM »
Incredible

I enjoyed the episode though one scene made me absolutely hate Danny.
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« Reply #277 on: September 28, 2014, 06:49:48 AM »
Incredible

I enjoyed the episode though one scene made me absolutely hate Danny.

The bit where he's getting all "YES SIR" with The Doctor in the TARDIS? TBH, most of his scenes make me hate him, so it could be anything. :lol But I still enjoy the story arc.
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« Reply #278 on: September 28, 2014, 08:53:36 AM »
Yeah. Especially considering how he lied to Clara too.
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« Reply #279 on: September 28, 2014, 12:09:28 PM »
I liked the episode a lot until Danny came into the picture. Getting more and more annoying with each episode.