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What are your three favorite Opeth records?

Orchid
7 (1.1%)
Morningrise
15 (2.3%)
My Arms, Your Hearse
26 (4%)
Still Life
81 (12.3%)
Blackwater Park
161 (24.5%)
Deliverance
43 (6.5%)
Damnation
53 (8.1%)
Ghost Reveries
152 (23.1%)
Watershed
66 (10%)
Heritage
21 (3.2%)
Pale Communion
32 (4.9%)

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #840 on: August 05, 2016, 11:11:18 PM »
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/opeths_akesson_what_to_expect_from_new_album.html

"It's a bit more heavy, hard rock, progressive hard rock heavy, more direct. Some really catchy melodies if you want to put it that way. It's a bit more intense a think, a bit darker and heavier.

 "We're not going back to death metal stuff, but some songs are the heaviest we've done in the past three albums."

Sweet! Despite my love for Pale Communion and my acceptance of their right to make whatever kind of music they want to under the Opeth name, bringing back some metal is most welcome.  :metal

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #841 on: August 06, 2016, 11:15:18 AM »
BTW, I saw Opeth open for Maiden this summer and I don't think i've seen/heard a band being so in the wrong place like Opeth that night. Don't get me wrong they played brilliantly but they did have a tough crowd to say the least. They played like champs though.
When I saw Opeth opening for Black Sabbath in Helsinki (festival report here), Mikael said the Swedish Maiden fans didn't give a shit about them. :P Luckily they got a warmer reception from the Finns.

I found a cool one-man cover of Sorceress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6d-9ZK-NA The vocals remind me of Layne Staley, which isn't a bad thing!

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #842 on: August 07, 2016, 09:57:42 AM »
BTW, I saw Opeth open for Maiden this summer and I don't think i've seen/heard a band being so in the wrong place like Opeth that night. Don't get me wrong they played brilliantly but they did have a tough crowd to say the least. They played like champs though.
When I saw Opeth opening for Black Sabbath in Helsinki (festival report here), Mikael said the Swedish Maiden fans didn't give a shit about them. :P Luckily they got a warmer reception from the Finns.

I found a cool one-man cover of Sorceress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6d-9ZK-NA The vocals remind me of Layne Staley, which isn't a bad thing!
That's funny, no idea why they get that kind of reception in their homecountry, too many casual metal fans in the audience perhaps.

On another note Face In the Snow is such a beautiful and emotional song.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #843 on: August 08, 2016, 05:17:21 AM »
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #845 on: August 29, 2016, 12:26:04 PM »
Good to see the author enjoys it that much. Best album since Ghost Reveries? Consider me hyped.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #846 on: August 30, 2016, 12:11:23 AM »
Heaviest since Watershed? Consider me hyped too  :metal :metal :metal
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #847 on: September 01, 2016, 10:47:06 AM »
Looking forward to this more than any Opeth album in recent memory. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much but that review has me feeling really optimistic. I do think the guy reviewing may be fanboying quite hard but either way, if it's a return to a heavier sound then I'm happy.

I really do love this band. They are never really a band that spring to mind when I think of my faves but their output is pretty stellar. I don't think they have released a bad album. A few I'm not too blown away by but that is mainly because when they do it right, BOY do they do it right. I'm not one of these fans who moans about the lack of screams/heaviness on the last two albums but I do think the contrast of the heavy/harsh vocals to clean vocals/melodic is what I love. The last two albums were just weaker than the two that came before them unfortunately, IMO. Ghost Reveries has always been my favourite (gateway album for me) but Watershed is a close second. I'd just like to see more contrast on this album. I don't mind all clean vocals at all as long as there are some heavier riffs in there as well.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #850 on: September 03, 2016, 06:43:59 AM »
It annoys me that some of the reviews I've read have started like "If you are hoping for the return of growls on an Opeth record then you are going to be disappointed." As if 80% of fans are just going to be like "Awwww, screw this then."

I mean, I know Opeth come from a heavy metal background but if people just want METUUUUULLLLLL they have plenty of bands they can turn to. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Opeth's heavier output but I am excited about the new album and the presence (or lack) of growls really won't make any difference to me. It's been 8 years since they released an album with growls. Is the community not over it yet?? I think it is insulting to the band to open a review of the album with "Sorry, no growls!!"

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #851 on: September 03, 2016, 08:02:18 AM »
Good points all around. I also find it odd that some reviewers need to point out that this album is heavier than the previous two, as if that was the only aspect of Opeth music people would be looking forward to.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #852 on: September 03, 2016, 09:20:00 AM »
Another review

https://www.sentineldaily.com.au/opeth-sorceress-moderbolagetnuclear-blast/
That is kind of a well done "bad" review that makes me believe that I will like this album very much! :biggrin:
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #853 on: September 03, 2016, 12:03:31 PM »
Good points all around. I also find it odd that some reviewers need to point out that this album is heavier than the previous two, as if that was the only aspect of Opeth music people would be looking forward to.

Also, what weight does this statement even carry? Even The Astonishing is heavier than Opeth's previous two albums.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #854 on: September 03, 2016, 01:05:56 PM »
That the reviewers know something of their music and their fanbase?
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #855 on: September 03, 2016, 01:14:47 PM »
No growls isn't a surprise anymore so it isn't that important to mention and less important to start the article with it. The fact that it's heavier again is an information about the sound of the album, so why not mention it? How important the heaviness is, is up to each listener.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #856 on: September 03, 2016, 02:01:21 PM »
No growls isn't a surprise anymore so it isn't that important to mention and less important to start the article with it.

Besides wheter or nog it is important it is still something a lot of people want to know, so it makes kinda sense for the reviewer to say it.

Also from their Facebook it seems like a new single or at least teaser (Will'o the Wisp) night be releases tommorow :azn:
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #857 on: September 04, 2016, 09:46:49 AM »
New song 'Will O The Wisp' is out! You can find it on the Opeth website by clicking the peacock's foot, but in case you're lazy, here's the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfpnwk-DXrA

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #858 on: September 04, 2016, 09:52:48 AM »
It's a nice beautiful song but it doesn't feel very special. Singing reminded me a lot of Jethro Tull.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #859 on: September 04, 2016, 09:59:34 AM »
I'm not sure on that after first listen. I find Opeth ballads to be very hit and miss. I'm sure it will grow, I didn't strongly like or dislike that on first listen.

Think I'm actually going to pre-order the album now though.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #860 on: September 04, 2016, 10:32:51 AM »
I didn't like the songs they already released. Any ballad they released in any other record is much better.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #861 on: September 04, 2016, 10:53:57 AM »
The track is fine. But nothing more.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #862 on: September 04, 2016, 11:17:17 AM »
Zydar is my new hero.  I just laughed so hard I nearly shat.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #863 on: September 04, 2016, 01:29:21 PM »
Good song. Sounds like it could have been on Damnation.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #864 on: September 04, 2016, 01:54:06 PM »
I liked It...reminded me of The Drapery Falls acoustics.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #865 on: September 04, 2016, 03:52:15 PM »
Good song. Sounds like it could have been on Damnation.
I don't see any relation to Damnation, but people keep saying that.

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« Reply #866 on: September 04, 2016, 03:58:20 PM »
Good song. Sounds like it could have been on Damnation.
I don't see any relation to Damnation, but people keep saying that.
Me neither. To me, it sounds like it could have been on Pale Communion.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #867 on: September 04, 2016, 04:45:38 PM »
It's a nice ballad.

People are complaining because it doesn't have growls as usual... *sigh*

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #868 on: September 04, 2016, 07:45:05 PM »
Good song. Sounds like it could have been on Damnation.
I don't see any relation to Damnation, but people keep saying that.
Yeah, this has much, much more of a folk feel than Damnation.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #869 on: September 05, 2016, 03:32:30 AM »
New song 'Will O The Wisp' is out! You can find it on the Opeth website by clicking the peacock's foot, but in case you're lazy, here's the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfpnwk-DXrA

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #870 on: September 05, 2016, 04:03:31 AM »
It's a nice ballad.

People are complaining because it doesn't have growls as usual... *sigh*
Not sure where you even got that from, but most of the complaints I've read about were about the way it doesn't really develop at all, and when it finally sounds like it might, the song ends. I agree with that, maybe when we get to hear the full album it makes more sense, but as of now it's nothing special. I liked the first single though.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #871 on: September 05, 2016, 04:05:12 AM »
It's a good song but I feel it's lacking something and I can't put my finger on it. Maybe  I just need to hear it 10 or 15 times to get into it.
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« Reply #872 on: September 05, 2016, 05:22:22 AM »
It's a nice ballad.

People are complaining because it doesn't have growls as usual... *sigh*
Not sure where you even got that from, but most of the complaints I've read about were about the way it doesn't really develop at all, and when it finally sounds like it might, the song ends. I agree with that, maybe when we get to hear the full album it makes more sense, but as of now it's nothing special. I liked the first single though.
While I get that a lot of people complain the band doesn't use growls anymore, nowadays you are not allowed to complain about anything in Opeth that people will give you the "ah, you like old Opeth, but bands evolve and bla bla bla" sermon.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #873 on: September 05, 2016, 06:59:31 AM »
Went ahead and pre-ordered. I'm going to stay quietly (or not so quietly) confident about this one.

I'm hoping that the new track will fit better in the context of the album. It's still got room to grow anyway.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. Pale Communion
« Reply #874 on: September 06, 2016, 07:14:17 PM »
Top 5 Favorite Albums:

1. Damnation
2. Orchid
3. Pale Communion
4. Deliverance
5. Blackwater Park

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1. By The Pain I See In Others
2. In My Time of Need
3. Master's Apprentice
4. Windowpane
5. To Bid You Farewell
6. Cusp of Eternity
7. In Mist She Was Standing
8. Voice of Treason
9. Baying of the Hounds
10. Face of Melinda
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