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What are your three favorite Opeth records?

Orchid
7 (1.1%)
Morningrise
15 (2.3%)
My Arms, Your Hearse
26 (4%)
Still Life
81 (12.3%)
Blackwater Park
161 (24.5%)
Deliverance
43 (6.5%)
Damnation
53 (8.1%)
Ghost Reveries
152 (23.1%)
Watershed
66 (10%)
Heritage
21 (3.2%)
Pale Communion
32 (4.9%)

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1540 on: August 08, 2020, 02:43:28 PM »
Orchid has to qualify as one of the best stoner rock albums ever.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1541 on: August 09, 2020, 01:11:38 PM »
My current Opeth discography ranking is as follows -

1. Ghost Reveries
2a. Blackwater Park
2b. Watershed 
4. Still Life
5. Deliverance
6. In Cauda Venenum
7. Damnation
8. Pale Communion
9. My Arms Your Hearse
10. Orchid
11. Heritage
12. Sorceress
13. Morningrise

The first 5 are all 5 star albums in my book.  Really like the new one as well!

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« Reply #1542 on: August 09, 2020, 04:13:43 PM »
I'll give this a go. Mine's not too dissimilar to yours :corn

1. Ghost Reveries
2.Watershed 
3. Blackwater Park
4. Still Life
5. Damnation
6. In Cauda Venenum
7. Deliverance
8. Pale Communion
9. Sorceress
10. Heritage
11. My Arms Your Hearse
12. Orchid
13. Morningrise


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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1543 on: August 09, 2020, 07:58:04 PM »
1. Ghost Reveries
2. Still Life
3. Blackwater Park
4. Deliverance
5. Damnation
6. Watershed
7. In Cauda Venenum
8. Pale Communion
9. My Arms, Your Hearse
10. Sorceress
11. Heritage
12. Morningrise
13. Orchid

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1544 on: August 09, 2020, 10:33:52 PM »
Ghost Reveries - heavy metal perfection
Heritage - proggy-weirdness perfection
My Arms Your Hearse - their most “evil” sounding record, underrated
Blackwater Park - maybe the peak of “classic” Opeth sound
Still Life
Deliverance
Morningrise


...the rest

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« Reply #1545 on: August 10, 2020, 12:47:17 AM »
1. Morningrise
2. Blackwater Park
3. Watershed
4. Still Life
5. My Arms Your Hearse
6. Orchid
7. Deliverance
8. Pale Communion
9. Sorceress
10. Damnation
11. Ghost Reveries
12. In Cauda Venenum
13. Heritage
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« Reply #1546 on: August 10, 2020, 05:12:23 AM »
Something like this:

Tier 1: Ghost Reveries, Blackwater Park, Deliverance
Tier 2: Watershed
Tier 3: Morningrise, Orchid

Tier 4: Still Life, My Arms Your Hearse, Damnation
Tier 5: Pale Communion, Heritage, Sorceress, In Cauda Venenum

Not 100% sure on my order, but albums in each tier are pretty closely matched. Pretty big gap between tiers 3 and 4.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1547 on: August 10, 2020, 09:07:37 AM »
Blackwater Park (This blend of soft and heavy, and folkish sound is what drew me into Opeth)
Ghost Reveries (The album title explains the atmosphere perfectly, Sitting in an empty candlelit room with a full moon shining through the dusty windows, telling Ghost Stories)
Damnation/Deliverence ( I place these two as one due to them being complete polar opposites of another, one being extremely soft, acoustic, and calm, the other hard, loud, and hectic)
Sorceress (Even though the production is what it is, these songs are great, it's shown on Garden of Titans, Era being a great one)
Watershed (Continuing the Blackwater Park era sound, but adding an even more darker, mysterious, sinister mood)
My Arms, Your Hearse (Interesting way they made the lyrics into a story, on the liner notes, has one of my favorites 'When')
Morningrise (It has some amazing bass work. Nectar being one I like, don't know why)
Heritage (I enjoy the songs, the flow of the album is where I find it hard for me to listen it in full)
Pale Communion (The songs are good, but I find it hard for me to listen to the album in full)
Orchid (As Mikael describes it now, Just black metal nonsense)


Still Life and In Cauda Venenum, haven't listened to these as much. Although, Face of Melinda is an excellent song. Roundhouse Tapes version is my definitive version.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1548 on: August 10, 2020, 10:14:11 AM »
1. Deliverance
2. Still Life
3. My Arms, Your Hearse
4. Ghost Reveries
5. Blackwater Park
6. Orchid
7. Morningrise
8. Watershed
9. Damnation
10. In Cauda Venenum
11. Pale Communion
12. Heritage
13. Sorceress

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1549 on: August 10, 2020, 01:15:36 PM »
Blackwater Park (This blend of soft and heavy, and folkish sound is what drew me into Opeth)
Ghost Reveries (The album title explains the atmosphere perfectly, Sitting in an empty candlelit room with a full moon shining through the dusty windows, telling Ghost Stories)
Damnation/Deliverence ( I place these two as one due to them being complete polar opposites of another, one being extremely soft, acoustic, and calm, the other hard, loud, and hectic)
Sorceress (Even though the production is what it is, these songs are great, it's shown on Garden of Titans, Era being a great one)
Watershed (Continuing the Blackwater Park era sound, but adding an even more darker, mysterious, sinister mood)
My Arms, Your Hearse (Interesting way they made the lyrics into a story, on the liner notes, has one of my favorites 'When')
Morningrise (It has some amazing bass work. Nectar being one I like, don't know why)
Heritage (I enjoy the songs, the flow of the album is where I find it hard for me to listen it in full)
Pale Communion (The songs are good, but I find it hard for me to listen to the album in full)
Orchid (As Mikael describes it now, Just black metal nonsense)


Still Life and In Cauda Venenum, haven't listened to these as much. Although, Face of Melinda is an excellent song. Roundhouse Tapes version is my definitive version.

Still Life is one of their best.  In Cauda Venenum is really good too.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1550 on: August 11, 2020, 03:40:52 PM »
1. Still Life
2. Orchid
3. My Arms Your Hearse
4. Morningrise
5. Damnation
6. Deliverance
7. Blackwater Park
8. Watershed
9. Ghost Reveries
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1000. Heritage
1001. In Cauda Venenum
1002. Sorceress
1003. Pale Communion

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1551 on: August 11, 2020, 03:50:50 PM »
1000. Heritage
1001. In Cauda Venenum
1002. Sorceress
1003. Pale Communion

Jeez, that much of a quality gap? :lol

Kudos for getting the order of those four right, at least.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1552 on: August 11, 2020, 04:04:04 PM »
Watershed is my favorite, although I still haven't listened to the early few.

I didn't care for Heritage, and I sort of liked Pale Communion the one time I listened through it, but I've never gone back to it so I guess it didn't make too much of an impact on me.  :lol

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« Reply #1553 on: August 11, 2020, 07:00:28 PM »
1. Still Life
2. Orchid
3. My Arms Your Hearse
4. Morningrise
5. Damnation
6. Deliverance
7. Blackwater Park
8. Watershed
9. Ghost Reveries
-----
1000. Heritage
1001. In Cauda Venenum
1002. Sorceress
1003. Pale Communion

Quite dramatic there, interesting! I mean it’s almost agreed by all Opeth fans that the newer records don’t even come close to the classic ones, but they’re not THAT bad are they?

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« Reply #1554 on: August 11, 2020, 07:06:21 PM »
1. Still Life
2. Orchid
3. My Arms Your Hearse
4. Morningrise
5. Damnation
6. Deliverance
7. Blackwater Park
8. Watershed
9. Ghost Reveries
-----
1000. Heritage
1001. In Cauda Venenum
1002. Sorceress
1003. Pale Communion

Quite dramatic there, interesting! I mean it’s almost agreed by all Opeth fans that the newer records don’t even come close to the classic ones, but they’re not THAT bad are they?

I'm more interested by there apparently being 991 other Opeth albums that I've never heard of before.  :lol
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« Reply #1555 on: August 12, 2020, 04:25:48 PM »
1. Still Life
2. Orchid
3. My Arms Your Hearse
4. Morningrise
5. Damnation
6. Deliverance
7. Blackwater Park
8. Watershed
9. Ghost Reveries
-----
1000. Heritage
1001. In Cauda Venenum
1002. Sorceress
1003. Pale Communion

Quite dramatic there, interesting! I mean it’s almost agreed by all Opeth fans that the newer records don’t even come close to the classic ones, but they’re not THAT bad are they?

They bore me to tears. I cannot stand music that bores me, especially when their output from Orchid through Watershed was as compelling as it was. I've listened to these 4 albums multiple times and nothing sticks. I can't remember how any of the songs go which is unusual because I can usually latch onto and learn new music very quickly. There's a few exceptions like the main riff of Sorceress, the chorus of Era, the outro of All Things Will Pass, most of The Devil's Orchard and I Feel The Darkness, and the intro to Voice Of Treason. But the rest is a meandering blur.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1556 on: August 13, 2020, 02:35:16 AM »
I feel kinda similar. They were an absolute favourite of mine (discovered then after BW came out and went back through the discography) but I've not been able to get into them for years now. I sometimes play bits of BW (Bleak). I gave Sorceress a good bash and i thought it had some memorable parts but it didn't stick. The trouble is, i find them incredibly dull now, for the most part.

I really enjoy the short numbers (Hours Of Wealth, Isolation, Coil, for example) and Mikael is a great singer, but it doesn't connect any more. It's probably just my tastes changing.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1557 on: August 13, 2020, 12:58:15 PM »
1. Still Life
2. Orchid
3. My Arms Your Hearse
4. Morningrise
5. Damnation
6. Deliverance
7. Blackwater Park
8. Watershed
9. Ghost Reveries
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1000. Heritage
1001. In Cauda Venenum
1002. Sorceress
1003. Pale Communion

Quite dramatic there, interesting! I mean it’s almost agreed by all Opeth fans that the newer records don’t even come close to the classic ones, but they’re not THAT bad are they?
The funny thing is that DTAs 1-9 is pretty much exactly reversed for me.  :lol Not including 1000-1003 though.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1558 on: August 13, 2020, 01:06:47 PM »
1: Blackwater Park
2: Watershed
3/4: My Arms Your Hearse / Deliverance
5: Ghost Reveries
6: Heritage
7/8: Sorceress / In Cauda Venenum
9: Damnation
10: Still Life
11: Pale Communion
12: Morningrise
13: Orchid? (never been able to get through more than a few songs of this one)

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« Reply #1559 on: October 10, 2020, 11:07:46 AM »
'Tis the season for Opeth listening. Autumn is hitting me hard this year. Haven't listened in quite some time, I cannot decide what to listen to first. Haven't heard the newest album yet, so maybe there.. but I'm kinda feeling like some classic pre-Watershed stuff.. Decisions...

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1560 on: October 26, 2020, 11:02:53 AM »
The song "Deliverance" is one of their best songs. Always liked that one. Really the whole album is great, not sure why it's considered a weak album by the band, it's top 5 for me. MAYH, SL, BWP, D/D, and GR are all top albums and have to be the strongest single run of albums in the prog metal universe.

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« Reply #1561 on: October 26, 2020, 12:59:56 PM »
I'd mainly agree but say the run from Still Life>Watershed is stronger.

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« Reply #1562 on: October 26, 2020, 02:02:12 PM »
I'd mainly agree but say the run from Still Life>Watershed is stronger.

For me, Watershed is a transitional album, a farewell to the first classic era, and the beginning to a new one, even though it wasn't obvious at the time of release, or until Heritage came out. But with the lineup changes and the differences in approach from GR to WS (which was even more dramatic with the follow up) I look at Watershed as the beginning of the newer era, they just hadn't stripped away the death growls and overall 'sound' of the previous era yet, but had already changed things up in a lot of ways, incorporating elements not heard on previous albums (whether they worked is another story). The first sign is right in the beginning with the female vocals, or the clavinet appearing on an Opeth album.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1563 on: October 26, 2020, 02:10:49 PM »
As of right now... a few of these could shift around with each other (like 5 through 7, or 9-12)

1. Watershed
2. Damnation
3. Blackwater Park
4. Pale Communion (tight race between these top 4)
5. Morningrise
6. Ghost Reveries
7. Orchid (big drop off from 4 to 5, but I still like these three records a fair bit)
8. In Cauda Venenum
9. Sorceress (haven't, admittedly, listened to these two nearly as much as I should have, but I do like them a lot)
10. Still Life
11. Deliverance
12. My Arms, Your Hearse (not really into these three albums at all outside of maybe one song each)
13. Heritage (don't like this other than Devil's Orchard, at least the three ranked above it are kind of musically exciting, this is just sleepy)
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1564 on: October 26, 2020, 02:31:53 PM »
These rankings aren’t making me want to go back and give the Nopeth albums another go!

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1565 on: October 26, 2020, 02:45:58 PM »
I agree, I have no desire to listen to MAYH or Still Life at all :neverusethis:
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« Reply #1566 on: October 26, 2020, 04:11:35 PM »
1. Ghost Reveries
2a. Blackwater Park
2b. Watershed
4. Still Life
5. Deliverance
6. In Cauda Venenum
7. Damnation
8. Pale Communion
9. My Arms Your Hearse
10. Sorceress
11. Heritage
12. Orchid
13. Morningrise

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1567 on: October 26, 2020, 05:15:00 PM »
I haven't heard their latest yet.

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 1.  Ghost Reveries
 2.  Blackwater Park
 3.  Deliverance

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 4.  Still Life
 5.  Pale Communion
 6.  My Arms, your hearse

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 7.  Damnation
 8.  Heritage
 9.  Sorceress

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10. Watershed
11. Morningrise
12. Orchid

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1568 on: October 26, 2020, 07:45:55 PM »
Death metal era:
#1. Morningrise
#2. Blackwater Park
#3. Watershed
#4. Still Life
#5. Ghost Reveries
#6. Orchid
#7. Deliverance
#8. My Arms, Your Hearse
#9. Damnation

Prog era:
#1. Pale Communion
#2. Soceress
#3. In Cauda Venenum
#4. Heritage

I'd merge these rankings together, but honestly it feels wrong to compare them because they're so different.
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« Reply #1569 on: October 30, 2020, 11:50:53 AM »

I'd merge these rankings together, but honestly it feels wrong to compare them because they're so different.

See, I think there's 3 overarching eras.

Before Martin Lopez, Martin Lopez era, and after Martin Lopez.

Every classic Opeth album has Lopez listed as "drummer".

However, the transition into a "proggier" band happened before Heritage. It kind of started with Deliverance, Damnation, then fully materialized with Ghost Reveries, their best album, imo. Since then, the band has been pretty different, not only because of the lineup change. They only did one more album with death growls, and the heaviness was cut back a bit after Watershed, but even Watershed saw lots of different things appearing on an Opeth album, this was continued into the 2010s. Cutting out death growls was the last thing to happen in the transition to a prog band.

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« Reply #1570 on: October 30, 2020, 11:54:31 AM »
Death metal era:
#1. Morningrise
#2. Blackwater Park
#3. Watershed
#4. Still Life
#5. Ghost Reveries
#6. Orchid
#7. Deliverance
#8. My Arms, Your Hearse
#9. Damnation

Prog era:
#1. Pale Communion
#2. Soceress
#3. In Cauda Venenum
#4. Heritage

I'd merge these rankings together, but honestly it feels wrong to compare them because they're so different.

Cool! That's the first time I've ever seen Morningrise at the top of any Opeth list. I think it tends to get overlooked.
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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1571 on: October 30, 2020, 12:06:33 PM »
In my early Opeth listening days (Deliverance/Damnation era) I used to consider Morningrise their best or 2nd best album, but that opinion has faded more and more as time has gone on. I actually listened to it yesterday for the first time in years, and the whole album felt like one continuous song until To Bid You Farewell which is a top 10 Opeth composition. It's not a bad album, but the song writing just kept improving on each album in those early days.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1572 on: October 30, 2020, 12:16:57 PM »
In my early Opeth listening days (Deliverance/Damnation era) I used to consider Morningrise their best or 2nd best album, but that opinion has faded more and more as time has gone on. I actually listened to it yesterday for the first time in years, and the whole album felt like one continuous song until To Bid You Farewell which is a top 10 Opeth composition. It's not a bad album, but the song writing just kept improving on each album in those early days.

Morningrise isn't one of their best ones to me but The Night and the Silent Water would definitely make my top10 Opeth songs. I think To Bid You Farewell is a pretty great track too. Black Rose Immortal definitely feels like a gimmick song, it's good but it does not need to be 20 minutes. Advent is pretty solid too. Nectar is the one that I would say is forgettable because I can't remember much about it honestly.

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Re: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum
« Reply #1573 on: October 30, 2020, 12:22:29 PM »
In my early Opeth listening days (Deliverance/Damnation era) I used to consider Morningrise their best or 2nd best album, but that opinion has faded more and more as time has gone on. I actually listened to it yesterday for the first time in years, and the whole album felt like one continuous song until To Bid You Farewell which is a top 10 Opeth composition. It's not a bad album, but the song writing just kept improving on each album in those early days.

Morningrise isn't one of their best ones to me but The Night and the Silent Water would definitely make my top10 Opeth songs. I think To Bid You Farewell is a pretty great track too. Black Rose Immortal definitely feels like a gimmick song, it's good but it does not need to be 20 minutes. Advent is pretty solid too. Nectar is the one that I would say is forgettable because I can't remember much about it honestly.

Advent used to be my favorite Opeth track for a while, used to be able to play it all on guitar.

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« Reply #1574 on: October 30, 2020, 12:51:01 PM »
Black Rose Immortal would probably be in my bottom three Opeth songs. 21 minutes of nothing memorable.
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