Author Topic: The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum (Read 179044 times)

KevShmev · « **on:** July 20, 2014, 09:25:26 AM »

Okay, it's time for a new Opeth thread, since the other one has runs it course, and I think it would be nice if we didn't discuss the new album until it's officially out in stores. If the mods want to keep the other one open in the meantime until then, so the early listeners can discuss it there, fine by me, but since some of us want to wait to hear it, I think it'd be nice to have an Opeth thread that we can read without spoilers, yes?

In the meantime, discuss all other things Opeth.

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2014, 10:19:16 AM »

I thought threads were supposed to reach 100 pages or so before a new version is needed. We're only a little over halfway there.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2014, 11:15:20 AM »

Yeah, but this is for people who don't wanna have spoilers fuck it up for them.

senecadawg2 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2014, 12:23:55 PM »

Well since PC is off limits in here, can we just take a moment to talk about how great, and underrated, Morningrise is? It's been battling with Still Life for my 2nd place spot, behind Ghost Reveries, for a few months now.

The Night and the Silent Water

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2014, 12:44:34 PM »

I think I'd like Morningrise more if the production wasn't so sterile-sounding.

And if it didn't have Black Rose Immortal on it.

Jaq · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2014, 12:47:52 PM »

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on July 20, 2014, 12:44:34 PM

I think I'd like Morningrise more if the production wasn't so sterile-sounding.

And if it didn't have Black Rose Immortal on it.

bout to crash · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2014, 02:13:07 PM »

And yay new thread!

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2014, 04:50:19 PM »

My top 5 underrated Opeth songs:

1. The Twilight is my Robe

2. Hours of Wealth

3. The Funeral Portrait

4. Karma

5. Nectar

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2014, 05:22:39 PM »

Quote from: black_floyd on July 20, 2014, 04:50:19 PM

3. The Funeral Portrait

4. Karma

5. Nectar

Those are all great.

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2014, 05:27:48 PM »

interesting ranking (before people quibble over what consitutes "underrated Opeth" – i'd say anything off the first two is a valid choice except "Forest of October" and "To Bid You Farewell")

1. The Funeral Portrait
2. The Amen Corner
3. Black Rose Immortal
4. Karma
5. Godhead's Lament

Big Hath · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2014, 07:18:33 PM »

Quote from: black_floyd on July 20, 2014, 04:50:19 PM

My top 5 underrated Opeth songs:

1. The Twilight is my Robe

2. Hours of Wealth

3. The Funeral Portrait

4. Karma

5. Nectar

you're no longer a member of the "By The Pain I See In Others" Defenders Club?

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2014, 07:22:37 PM »

I honestly think The Funeral Portrait is my favorite Opeth song. I was unaware of it being underrated.

adace · « **Reply #12 on:** July 20, 2014, 07:48:56 PM »

My top 5 (arguably) underrated post-Still Life songs:

1. Wreath
2. Weakness
3. Hessian Peel
4. Nepenthe
5. Face in the Snow

KevShmev · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2014, 10:10:11 PM »

I don't listen to The Funeral Portrait that often, but I always enjoy it a lot when I do.

On the flip side, it is really aggravating to me that The Leper Affinity and Dirge for November both have fantastic mellow outros in songs I otherwise don't care for that much. I mean, I don't dislike either, but neither does much for me, aside from those outros.

TioJorge · « **Reply #14 on:** July 20, 2014, 10:19:45 PM »

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Man, Dirge is my favorite Opeth song by far and away.

I still think it has the most amazing into and outro of any song of all the times. Every one of them. Dat outro....dat outro makes me feel the feels of the November SO HARD.

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2014, 10:27:12 PM »

The intro and outro to Dirge are great. The rest of the song... not so much.

TioJorge · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2014, 10:33:34 PM »

I think it brings the song full circle. I definitely love the intro and outro more than the middle section, but I still love it; it's an absolute black hole in the middle of a field of flowers. The lyrics and tone...some of the lowest singing from Akerfeldt throughout...it's especially encompassing towards the end and then just lets you go and it's back to the beauty. I wouldn't appreciate the beginning and end nearly as much if it were mellow throughout. But to each earhole's own.

black_biff_stadler · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2014, 11:17:12 PM »

Quote from: Big Hath on July 20, 2014, 07:18:33 PM

Quote from: black_floyd on July 20, 2014, 04:50:19 PM
My top 5 underrated Opeth songs:

1. The Twilight is my Robe

2. Hours of Wealth

3. The Funeral Portrait

4. Karma

5. Nectar

you're no longer a member of the "By The Pain I See In Others" Defenders Club?

I definitely am but I have trouble thinking of which track to omit from this list.

KevShmev · « **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2014, 07:58:48 AM »

I definitely am a big fan of Hours of Wealth. That and Isolation Years are two of my favorite mellow Opeth tunes, and big reasons why Ghost Reveries is one of my favorite Opeth records.

Zantera · « **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2014, 08:12:33 AM »

If we're talking underrated, I would say:

1. The Twilight Is My Robe
2. The Amen Corner
3. Masters Apprentices
4. Weakness
5. Isolation Years

ThatOneGuy2112 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 21, 2014, 08:35:39 AM »

Quote from: TioJorge on July 20, 2014, 10:19:45 PM

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Man, Dirge is my favorite Opeth song by far and away.

I still think it has the most amazing into and outro of any song of all the times. Every one of them. Dat outro....dat outro makes me feel the feels of the November SO HARD.

Definitely. Every moment on Dirge and Leper are just perfect. In fact, I'd argue that every moment on Blackwater Park is near-perfect.

Rattlehead · « **Reply #21 on:** July 21, 2014, 08:49:52 AM »

If I had to make a top 5 for underrated Opeth songs it would look something like this as of now…

1. Karma
2. By The Pain I See In Others
3. The Amen Corner
4. Nectar
5. Isolation Years

I was pleasantly surprised to see so many people giving Karma and The Amen Corner some love

425 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:01:29 AM »

Honestly, I think the second half of Blackwater Park significantly outshines the first. It's carried of course by the excellence of the song Blackwater Park, but Dirge for November and The Funeral Portrait are both brilliant pieces in their own right. Dirge for November was the first Opeth song with growls that I got into, and that's in no small part because the growls are so subdued compared to their other songs. Those low growls really fit the mood of the song and the lyrics, and they're what convinced me that BWP would not be totally inaccessible to me. Meanwhile, The Funeral Portrait just has some great energetic riffs and well-crafted vocals, which make it just a great listen. And the moment when Steven Wilson comes in at the end is one of the best Opeth moments, in my opinion. And even though Patterns in the Ivy is a short little transition piece, it's an incredibly evocative one that is actually one of my favorites on the album. In fact, I think I'd rank all the songs from the second half of BWP higher than all the songs from the first half of BWP. And I do like the songs from the first half of BWP.

Rattlehead · « **Reply #23 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:11:36 AM »

Quote from: 425 on July 21, 2014, 09:01:29 AM

Meanwhile, The Funeral Portrait just has some great energetic riffs and well-crafted vocals, which make it just a great listen. And the moment when Steven Wilson comes in at the end is one of the best Opeth moments, in my opinion.

I wholeheartedly agree with this

Definitely one of my favorite Opeth songs and that ending is also one of my favorite goose bump inducing Opeth moments

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2014, 10:04:03 AM »

Quote from: Zantera on July 21, 2014, 08:12:33 AM

If we're talking underrated, I would say:

1. The Twilight Is My Robe
2. The Amen Corner
3. Masters Apprentices
4. Weakness
5. Isolation Years

Master's Apprentices is underrated?

Zantera · « **Reply #25 on:** July 21, 2014, 10:12:48 AM »

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on July 21, 2014, 10:04:03 AM

Quote from: Zantera on July 21, 2014, 08:12:33 AM
If we're talking underrated, I would say:

1. The Twilight Is My Robe
2. The Amen Corner
3. Masters Apprentices
4. Weakness
5. Isolation Years

Master's Apprentices is underrated?

I actually see a lot of people hate on it sadly. Personally I think it's one of their best.

KevShmev · « **Reply #26 on:** July 21, 2014, 10:16:57 AM »

Master's Apprentices nicely sits in the middle for me as far as Deliverance goes. It doesn't touch the title track or A Fair Judgment, but it's far better than Wreath or By the Pain I See in Others, neither of which I dislike.

Oh, and regarding BWP, Patterns in the Ivy is one of my favorite pieces of Opeth music ever. The piano is so damn mesmerizing.

Basekick · « **Reply #27 on:** July 21, 2014, 01:59:40 PM »

Quote from: Rattlehead on July 21, 2014, 09:11:36 AM

Quote from: 425 on July 21, 2014, 09:01:29 AM
Meanwhile, The Funeral Portrait just has some great energetic riffs and well-crafted vocals, which make it just a great listen. And the moment when Steven Wilson comes in at the end is one of the best Opeth moments, in my opinion.

I wholeheartedly agree with this Definitely one of my favorite Opeth songs and that ending is also one of my favorite goose bump inducing Opeth moments

Seriously that outro is fantastic.

But for the record, the best song off of BWP is The Drapery Falls and it's not even close. Considering BWP is my Opeth favorite album and I adore every single song on this album, that says a lot.

ThatOneGuy2112 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 21, 2014, 02:06:07 PM »

Honestly, it's really hard to compare and make all the songs on BWP compete with each other. They all have such different, but insane strengths that I'm hard-pressed to name my favorite song overall from the album off the top of my head, and I think that's part of why it's without a doubt my favorite Opeth album.

Zantera · « **Reply #29 on:** July 21, 2014, 02:40:50 PM »

One of the weirdest things for me is that I do not remember Dirge For November or The Funeral Portrait at all. I've listened to Blackwater Park probably a good 35-40 spins (if not more) over the years, and whenever I hear the songs, I go "oh yeah, this is THAT song", but as soon as the album ends, any memory about both songs just leave my brain. I know one starts off calmer and I think the other one starts off heavier, but I honestly don't remember. I think the word "forgettable" is harsh, but my main problem that has always prevented me from placing BWP as my very favorite is the fact that neither Funeral Portrait or Dirge clicked. They're both fine tracks, they just never clicked for me. I'm able to identify what makes them good and I can see why others would like them, but it's kinda like a movie people praise, and when you watch it, your reaction is "that was cool I guess".

425 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 21, 2014, 02:45:45 PM »

Quote from: Zantera on July 21, 2014, 02:40:50 PM

I know one starts off calmer and I think the other one starts off heavier, but I honestly don't remember.

Well, you remember that, at least. Dirge and Funeral, respectively.

And that's unfortunate that they don't do anything for you, but to each his own, I suppose.

TioJorge · « **Reply #31 on:** July 21, 2014, 04:12:57 PM »

Also like to throw massive love to Harvest. Another song I feel encompass the Opeth-vibe perfectly. Basically BWP's vibe gives me the fall feels and makes me all tingly in my jingleballs.

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 21, 2014, 05:45:43 PM »

For a chat about favorite Opeth songs I see a dissapointing lack of Ghost Of Perdition

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #33 on:** July 21, 2014, 10:05:42 PM »

Ghost of Perdition is ridiculously good. Seems like it's one of those songs where it's just a given that it's everyone's favorite.

PolarizeMe · « **Reply #34 on:** July 21, 2014, 10:31:02 PM »

Quote from: TioJorge on July 21, 2014, 04:12:57 PM

Basically BWP's vibe gives me the fall feels and makes me all tingly in my jingleballs.

All of Opeth's albums give me an autumn vibe, but Damnation also gives me a rainy day vibe and sometimes a Winter vibe strangely enough.

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