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« Reply #875 on: March 10, 2015, 05:19:29 AM »
I feel bad for the people who like his current music and thus have to square his persona with his output. I perceive this at an "All Rose" level of detachment, and hell, it is mighty entertaining.
Don't feel bad for me, I love most of his current projects, and I couldn't care less about his "persona". I don't live with him, I just listen to his music. Attitude problems are nothing new in the entertainment business and his are by far not the worst.
Like I said, people are just out for blood.

Same here. It is fantastic when an artist has a great personality, but it does not affect the art itself for me.

And while Portnoy often has these ridiculous moments, I think nobody can deny he did many great interactions for the fans of his bands/projects.

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« Reply #876 on: March 10, 2015, 06:13:41 AM »
I feel bad for the people who like his current music and thus have to square his persona with his output.
Why would his persona matter in evaluating his music?
I think for me, nuclear meltdown would happen if he decided to drum for my current favorite artist, Steven Wilson
Again, why would any of that be relevant (let alone a nuclear meltdown) if SW & MP would happen to release an amazing album together?


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« Reply #877 on: March 10, 2015, 07:20:29 AM »
I feel bad for the people who like his current music and thus have to square his persona with his output.
Why would his persona matter in evaluating his music?
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« Reply #878 on: March 10, 2015, 07:33:33 AM »
I can't see Neal ever not wanting to work with him.  They seem to have a bond where they are almost like brothers, and I don't see that changing ever.

I find Neal's adherence to MP a bit bewildering. Sure, he's a great drummer, but wouldn't you want to try new things musically at some point? One reason (other than the lyrics) why I don't really listen to Neal is because every album has exactly the same fricking sound.
Have you listened to Songs from November? A completely different line up (no Mike Portnoy, obviously) and the sound is drastically unlike his prog output.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #879 on: March 10, 2015, 08:00:02 AM »
People are evil.
Mike's no politician, he got frustrated and vented online.  Nothing he said justifies all the outrage, the hate and name calling that went on. Fucking horrible.
Not just about Mike, but people in general;
We're in an era now where this notion really needs to die. That someone was "just venting" when they posted something online, so whatever they say should be glossed over.
The internet isn't a new thing anymore. When you put something online, whether you're putting it directly in front of a million people or a dozen people, you're putting it on the internet for potentially the whole world to see. If something is only meant for a few people, the damn internet is not the place for it, especially not on something like facebook, twitter, or a public forum. If you just need to vent a bit, do so in person with people around you who will take it for what it is, or vent to someone by phone or text one-on-one.

You don't get to publicly say something where a lot of people could reasonably see/hear it, and then use the excuse that you weren't talking to them.
Don't agree? Too bad. Whether it's right or not, that's how the internet works.

Again, not just about Mike. A hell of a lot of people out in the world could really use something akin to 'Common Sense on the Internet 101'.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #880 on: March 10, 2015, 02:10:22 PM »
I feel bad for the people who like his current music and thus have to square his persona with his output.
Why would his persona matter in evaluating his music?
I think for me, nuclear meltdown would happen if he decided to drum for my current favorite artist, Steven Wilson
Again, why would any of that be relevant (let alone a nuclear meltdown) if SW & MP would happen to release an amazing album together?

Am I really the only one in this thread whose experience of the music is at least somewhat enhanced/tainted by whether I approve of the person him/herself?
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« Reply #881 on: March 10, 2015, 02:13:52 PM »
I guess. I love the Dillinger Escape Plan even though I think Greg's an asshole a lot of the time.

Sure, I appreciate musicians who also happen to be cool people, but it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of their music if they're not.

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« Reply #882 on: March 10, 2015, 02:16:59 PM »
I get ya, but I've only felt like that when a musician interferes with a band continuing like Steve Perry with Journey and Dennis DeYoung with Styx. 
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #883 on: March 10, 2015, 02:22:06 PM »
I feel bad for the people who like his current music and thus have to square his persona with his output.
Why would his persona matter in evaluating his music?
I think for me, nuclear meltdown would happen if he decided to drum for my current favorite artist, Steven Wilson
Again, why would any of that be relevant (let alone a nuclear meltdown) if SW & MP would happen to release an amazing album together?

Am I really the only one in this thread whose experience of the music is at least somewhat enhanced/tainted by whether I approve of the person him/herself?

No you are not. I feel the same way generally. Like I do not want to knowingly root for some asshole. I think David Ortiz is an asshole, but I still root for the Sox.

MP has not done anything in my eyes for me to not be a fan, other than make a shit ton of music since he left DT that I simply do not care for.
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« Reply #884 on: March 10, 2015, 02:30:00 PM »
I mean, in the end that's where I stand too. I really just don't care for his post-DT stuff (the Skolnik thing is likely to be the same), so for me this is at the  :corn level.
But, I don't think these PR fiascos go without any damage. Even if, on a very subtle level, somebody will now approach a new album of his with a negative attitude. We all know how initial attitude can heavily color one's perception of an album, and it might cause a person who previously would have dished out the money, now longer does so.
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« Reply #885 on: March 10, 2015, 02:33:38 PM »
I'm not sure the average fan is even aware. If I wasn't a member of DTF, I wouldn't have even known he was sick.
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« Reply #886 on: March 10, 2015, 02:40:04 PM »
I don't know, the FB comment of the doctor guy who was criticizing MP has 5,000 likes. No matter how you slice it, that's 5,000 people whose opinion of MP was lessened.
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« Reply #887 on: March 10, 2015, 02:43:59 PM »
Yeah, it's definitely not a good look.

But do "average" fans follow people on Facebook? maybe they do. Maybe I'm too old. I don't even have a Facebook.

But I think if you're a huge Billy Sheehan fan, you still probably buy the next Winery Dogs even though it has that asshole drummer.
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« Reply #888 on: March 10, 2015, 03:01:21 PM »
Actually, to a lot of people FB is primarily becoming a means of keeping up to date with the artists they like.
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« Reply #889 on: March 10, 2015, 03:02:58 PM »
Actually, to a lot of people FB is primarily becoming a means of keeping up to date with the artists they like.
Yeah, that makes sense.
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« Reply #890 on: March 10, 2015, 03:15:05 PM »
But do "average" fans follow people on Facebook? maybe they do. Maybe I'm too old. I don't even have a Facebook.
Yea actually. Sometimes even less than that. I have a few friends on FB who follow Portnoy and they wouldn't even qualify as casual fans of the band.
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« Reply #891 on: March 10, 2015, 03:18:31 PM »
Am I really the only one in this thread whose experience of the music is at least somewhat enhanced/tainted by whether I approve of the person him/herself?

Nope, although the way I process it is probably different. When I listen to a song or album, it's like a moment in time. I think about the events within that timeframe, where each guy is at in their career, and how their personality comes out through their respective instrument. Sometimes, the creative direction of an album is fueled by real life events. The things that happened in the past can shape something that would have otherwise been different.

That sort of relates to the current situation with MP. It's very difficult for me to listen to any of his post-DT work without thinking of all the negative PR, the backlash, and the general diminishing of his public image. Perhaps that's just my issue, but I cannot hold Mike Portnoy in the same regard I once did.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #892 on: March 10, 2015, 03:26:29 PM »
But do "average" fans follow people on Facebook? maybe they do. Maybe I'm too old. I don't even have a Facebook.
Yea actually. Sometimes even less than that. I have a few friends on FB who follow Portnoy and they wouldn't even qualify as casual fans of the band.
Then why would they follow Portnoy?
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« Reply #893 on: March 10, 2015, 03:30:09 PM »
Some people are a little quick to the trigger with the "Like" button.
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« Reply #894 on: March 10, 2015, 04:30:54 PM »
I think it's important to point out, and this is especially something MP seems to struggle comprehending, the vast majority of fans of a band are "soft" fans. They follow the band/artist with mild interest, and they are the ones who will likely fall off the wagon with too many negative news. It's a gradual distribution. MP only sees "fan vs non-fan" and is often quick to deride any critic of his as a fake fan, not understanding that his core supporters are nowhere near numerous enough to bring in the revenue he needs. He lives by the support of the soft fans, but they are the ones that are easily alienated by stunts like these.
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« Reply #895 on: March 10, 2015, 04:38:56 PM »
There are many popular actors, musicians and writers acting like offensive, totally ridiculous lunatics and the internet/papers are constantly filled with articles about it. I honestly do not think the general public cares enough for it to be significantly impacting sales.

For clarity, I totally agree he's acting like a spoiled brat and people in hospitals have much more urgent things to attend to. I am too lazy to specifically go to his fb to share this, but would if I randomly clicked on this crap while logged in.

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« Reply #896 on: March 10, 2015, 04:58:58 PM »
I think it's important to point out, and this is especially something MP seems to struggle comprehending, the vast majority of fans of a band are "soft" fans. They follow the band/artist with mild interest, and they are the ones who will likely fall off the wagon with too many negative news. It's a gradual distribution. MP only sees "fan vs non-fan" and is often quick to deride any critic of his as a fake fan, not understanding that his core supporters are nowhere near numerous enough to bring in the revenue he needs. He lives by the support of the soft fans, but they are the ones that are easily alienated by stunts like these.
Well, yes and no. You could argue that all of this controversy gets his name known and helps pick up a bigger number of "soft fans". And in terms of following him on facebook, the majority of those thousands and thousands of people who follow him won't even really pay attention to this sort of thing, unless they are specifically interesting in all the drama. Most of the time if I see a post like that on facebook I think "ok, whatever" and move on. It's only really the "hard fans" or those who know about MP's drama that would usually bother to look at the comments and see what a shitstorm it was.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #897 on: March 10, 2015, 05:36:54 PM »
Ladies and Gentleman.  You wanted them less, surely you jest.

On drums, Mike "I told them the audience was waiting" Portnoy
On bass, Gene "Rock is Dead" Simmons
On guitar, Yngwie "You've unleashed the fookin fury" Malmsteen
On vocals, Kanye "Call me Beyonce" West

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« Reply #898 on: March 10, 2015, 05:52:00 PM »
Not on social media so my only exposure to this is here.

He made a HUGE mistake slamming hospital workers in a PUBLIC way using social media. If that never happened, this wouldn't be discussed.

They deserve an apology.

End of story.

I hope he's feeling better.

And this isn't just about him, it's ANYONE  who does that as someone said before.
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« Reply #899 on: March 10, 2015, 06:37:13 PM »
I wrote something similar to this a while back in this thread, but this seems an opportune time to re-iterate and expand on it.

On some of the more, let's say, less-than-sympathetic forums to Mike Portnoy, a question often gets asked of how his diehard fans (of which I'm one) can keep standing up for him when he does stuff like this.

Firstly let me get the 'negative' stuff out of the way...

There are 2 things I'd personally like Mike to learn, either by himself or for someone close to him to try to make him see it. One is his misguided tendency to speak about fans in war-like terms, you're either with him or against him, you're a true fan or a hater, and so on. 

The other is I wish he'd take note of his own words, when he writes things like "I'm a human and I also have feelings, this stuff you write on the internet hurts, please remember actual people read this stuff!"....well, yeah Mike, that's why you can't always dismiss the offensive stuff you write on the internet as "Just my opinion, life is good, everyone go relax in the sun!" Some underpaid and overworked nurse at that hospital woke up to the furore over your Facebook post, and she's a real human with feelings, just like you. Why do you demand everyone treats you with respect on the net but you sometimes shirk your own responsibility in that regard?

But as others have said above, I do believe he's an extremely nice and sweet guy, I don't think he has any nastiness or malice in him. He just doesn't handle negative emotions very well, he's very impulsive. But that (to the question above, about why his fans stick by him through all the shit) is a character trait which I think is the other side of the coin of his talent. No other drummer has moved me with his playing as much as him, on tracks like Name of God, Stream of Consciousness, Count of Tuscany. That sense of spontaneity and unpredictability which I get from his best work, I don't think any other kind of character could have done that.

He isn't a perfect person, that doesn't need saying, none of us is. Frankly speaking this hospital thing pissed me off a bit (as an English socialist, I'm very defensive of the NHS, and I tried to explain to him why on his Forum), but it doesn't come close to comparing how angry I was at him when he humiliated that Philipino (I think it was the Phillipines) kid on stage, when his drums were fucked up. That's the 'worst' thing he's done, in my eyes. But even that isn't the end of the world. The good stuff he does massively outweighs it. 

When you're an MP fan, you learn to accept that now and again stuff like this will happen, and always it'll be the result of his not being able, on very rare occasions to be fair, to control his impulses in times of stress. I still really like the guy, I still think he's one of the greatest musicians to follow as a fan, and the times he fucks up are actually pretty seldom compared to others I could name.   

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #900 on: March 10, 2015, 07:03:29 PM »

Am I really the only one in this thread whose experience of the music is at least somewhat enhanced/tainted by whether I approve of the person him/herself?
As I said in the Kanye West thread, it depends how much I can separate any asshattery that takes place with their work. Miles Davis could be a (potentially racist) asshole, but on his albums, he's just blowing into a trumpet (in groups, willingly, with a fair few white guys for old school jazz), so it's still quite easy to get lost in the music. With Kanye, a guy whose career is talking over a beat, it's a bit harder to distance him from his drivelling Beyonce rants.

I can see both sides when it comes to MP, and an issue like this specifically. You could argue he's the drummer, he's just banging shit, what he said about this hospital don't mean shit. But then he did, to some extent, make the whole thing about himself as a drummer in a band.

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« Reply #901 on: March 10, 2015, 07:03:37 PM »
Ladies and Gentleman.  You wanted them less, surely you jest.

On drums, Mike "I told them the audience was waiting" Portnoy
On bass, Gene "Rock is Dead" Simmons
On guitar, Yngwie "You've unleashed the fookin fury" Malmsteen
On vocals, Kanye "Call me Beyonce" West

Well that's some lineup.  I would say MP is the least troublesome since he is new to the scene of creating public drama.  I think Gene Simmons is the biggest douche licker of that group. followed by Kanye, then Yngwie.  In Yngwie's case though, I think it's just pure entertainment listening to him rant.  It's like the Archie Bunker syndrome.  You really can't be angry at him because he's just ignorant.

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« Reply #902 on: March 10, 2015, 07:16:11 PM »
Yngwie is pretty funny............I remember back in the 80's when I was learning guitar his instructional videos were hysterical.


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« Reply #903 on: March 10, 2015, 07:33:25 PM »
Yngwie is pretty funny............I remember back in the 80's when I was learning guitar his instructional videos were hysterical.


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« Reply #904 on: March 10, 2015, 07:39:37 PM »
**long post**

All of this. Well, aside from the English socialist part, but that's a different topic. :biggrin:

I don't understand thinking that he's a bad guy from stuff like this. I understand being upset or disappointed, because sometimes, like this time, it is justified. But if you look at the grand sum of everything he does, I think the record clearly shows that he's a good guy with some flaws. Flaws that tend to manifest themselves, unfortunately, in a rather ugly and public way.
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« Reply #905 on: March 10, 2015, 08:16:19 PM »
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« Reply #906 on: March 10, 2015, 08:17:07 PM »
But as others have said above, I do believe he's an extremely nice and sweet guy, I don't think he has any nastiness or malice in him. He just doesn't handle negative emotions very well, he's very impulsive.

**long post**

I don't understand thinking that he's a bad guy from stuff like this. I understand being upset or disappointed, because sometimes, like this time, it is justified. But if you look at the grand sum of everything he does, I think the record clearly shows that he's a good guy with some flaws. Flaws that tend to manifest themselves, unfortunately, in a rather ugly and public way.

Agreed.

In a way it reminds me of a housemate of mine (I share a big livingroom and kitchen with 13 people). Especially in our text group he sometimes says some stupid shit, leading to big arguments. A lot of people here hate him (and I get that). But the thing is, I have seen him geniunely care for people and seen him help out when something is amiss.  And then you have another other type of people in my house; those who are smart, tactful but really only do things that benefit themselves and actually have a pretty shitty personality. Nobody in the house has a problem with them, offcourse.

My point with this is that people always blow up negative encounters and base/write off a personality on that, while sometimes these persons are genuinely good, yet openly flawed.  Now I do not excuse these Portnoy meltdowns at all, but being tactless and having problems to admitting/seeing that is far, very far from actually being a shitty person. Even though I would still buy his stuff if he was a total douche, I do not believe he actually is.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #907 on: March 10, 2015, 09:04:15 PM »
But do "average" fans follow people on Facebook? maybe they do. Maybe I'm too old. I don't even have a Facebook.
Yea actually. Sometimes even less than that. I have a few friends on FB who follow Portnoy and they wouldn't even qualify as casual fans of the band.
Then why would they follow Portnoy?
I dunno. Maybe they heard a DT song once they liked or recognized his name. A few of them are drummers so I'm sure they're at least aware of what he does, even if they don't actively follow him.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #908 on: March 11, 2015, 06:22:26 AM »
But do "average" fans follow people on Facebook? maybe they do. Maybe I'm too old. I don't even have a Facebook.
Yea actually. Sometimes even less than that. I have a few friends on FB who follow Portnoy and they wouldn't even qualify as casual fans of the band.
Then why would they follow Portnoy?

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« Reply #909 on: March 11, 2015, 07:37:53 AM »
I follow Food Babe, Alex Jones, and Great Mothers Questioning Vaccines... I hate all of them.

:lol I follow AJ for two reasons.  One, because he's entertaining when he goes off on people.  Two, because occasionally he will put up an article that the other media outlets ignore and you learn something beneficial.  Though I have learned with him that you should always double check his research first.