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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #735 on: March 08, 2015, 04:53:13 AM »
I can only assume that because MP and most of these websites reporting on it are American, they don't actually understand how healthcare works in the UK. As he's not British, he or his insurance will presumably have to pay anyway so I don't know why he went to clog up a public NHS hospital - he should have gone somewhere private.
Even here in America, if he went to any local ER, he would be seen in order of importance of illness/injury. 

I would have thought that a tour like this would have a local private doctor "on call" for emergencies like this.

I thought this is how ER's work, regardless of which country you're in.
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« Reply #736 on: March 08, 2015, 05:36:02 AM »
Reading this all now...good grief. 

So, let me get this straight: he was too sick to even raise his arms, but those arms were apparently well enough to type out of a message on social media...that criticized people who work in a hospital saving lives...hours before playing a concert for his friend, who writes music about God and Jesus. 

There is simply no defending these actions.

  If what I imagine will be the fallout from this does not convince him that he needs someone to help him with PR, I think nothing will.
 

Considering what his wife posted about it on FB, it seems clear that those close to him enable his diva behavior, so I doubt he's gonna get it this time either. 

I think he has now officially Axl Rose/Geoff Tate/Eddie Van Halen/Phil Anselmo territory.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #737 on: March 08, 2015, 06:07:46 AM »
he was too sick to even raise his arms, but those arms were apparently well enough to type out of a message on social media
I don't think this is at all relevant - you only need to have one dexterous finger to be able to type something on your phone.

But I agree that there's no defending his behaviour.

However:

Mike Portnoy can fuck off, this is just unreal.
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« Reply #738 on: March 08, 2015, 06:39:44 AM »
Gonna say, even if he can't lift his arms, A&E won't see him faster than some because it's not major. It's still minor.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #739 on: March 08, 2015, 06:58:47 AM »
I thought MP's original post was pretty bad, but his responses to the comments... :facepalm:

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #740 on: March 08, 2015, 07:01:03 AM »
I've said it before (and probably in this thread) but someone just needs to take MP's hands off the social media tools the world has. He simply doesn't use them very well and never comes off the way he intends to, resulting in a lot of people just shaking their heads and saying "Dammit, Mike."
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« Reply #741 on: March 08, 2015, 07:02:39 AM »
Well, social media often results in many people unwittingly outing their true selves.  Take that for what it's worth.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #742 on: March 08, 2015, 07:14:16 AM »
Lol Portnoy.


He used to be my favourite member of the band and I wanted his DVDs until he quit the band and he revealed his true colours.

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« Reply #743 on: March 08, 2015, 07:27:36 AM »
I saw the post he made last night and was honestly glad that most of the comments were people just honestly telling him how hospitals work, rather than encouraging his behavior. I try to take the man's posts in stride, but he was just flat out wrong on this one, show to play or not.
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« Reply #744 on: March 08, 2015, 08:02:53 AM »
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regardless of telling them that there is an audience waiting for our show to begin
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Cringetacular.  That would make me want to serve him that much less. 
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I do kind of wonder how different the response would have been if he never left Dream Theater and this was a DT gig he was missing.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #745 on: March 08, 2015, 08:27:26 AM »
I do kind of wonder how different the response would have been if he never left Dream Theater and this was a DT gig he was missing.

It's not uncommon for a big touring band to have a doctor or a medic on board for the tour, or at the very least available on the various locations. I think with Dream Theater, this would never have happened, as they have the means to be able to afford stuff like that. I don't think The Neal Morse Band can afford to have a doctor travel along as well. So, I don't think it ever could have happened had he still been in DT.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
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« Reply #747 on: March 08, 2015, 08:48:24 AM »
Cool video from the show last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqCS8-DTLSw

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« Reply #748 on: March 08, 2015, 08:59:48 AM »
Bringing out this classic again  :biggrin:



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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #749 on: March 08, 2015, 09:29:12 AM »
He surely crossed the crooked step. :P

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« Reply #750 on: March 08, 2015, 09:57:48 AM »
He's failed this PR debacle with flying colors since he hobviously has no remorse about it.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #751 on: March 08, 2015, 10:01:47 AM »
My favorite comment so far:


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« Reply #752 on: March 08, 2015, 10:13:43 AM »
Given how I totally am no longer invested in any of his musical output, I find all this highly amusing.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #753 on: March 08, 2015, 10:52:19 AM »
Reading this all now...good grief. 

So, let me get this straight: he was too sick to even raise his arms, but those arms were apparently well enough to type out of a message on social media...that criticized people who work in a hospital saving lives...hours before playing a concert for his friend, who writes music about God and Jesus. 

There is simply no defending these actions.

  If what I imagine will be the fallout from this does not convince him that he needs someone to help him with PR, I think nothing will.
 

Considering what his wife posted about it on FB, it seems clear that those close to him enable his diva behavior, so I doubt he's gonna get it this time either. 

I think he has now officially Axl Rose/Geoff Tate/Eddie Van Halen/Phil Anselmo territory.

Mike Portnoy is a royal cunt, but I just want to point out that Phil Anselmo has really turned himself around and is one of the coolest dudes in metal these days.

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« Reply #754 on: March 08, 2015, 11:11:08 AM »
What if he was really sick, guys? After all, he just wanted to perform for the fans. And to see the fans being negative basically towards him being afraid that he won't be able to perform for them, well, it must have been hard. But yeah, Mike has been around social media for a while, he knows his honesty will lead to angry comments.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #755 on: March 08, 2015, 11:14:11 AM »
Mike Portnoy is a royal cunt, but I just want to point out that Phil Anselmo has really turned himself around and is one of the coolest dudes in metal these days.
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None of this, please. If you want to criticise someone for being disrespectful, at least be respectful yourself while doing so.
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« Reply #756 on: March 08, 2015, 11:16:00 AM »
What if he was really sick, guys? After all, he just wanted to perform for the fans. And to see the fans being negative basically towards him being afraid that he won't be able to perform for them, well, it must have been hard. But yeah, Mike has been around social media for a while, he knows his honesty will lead to angry comments.

I'm sure he is.  And I'm sure his lack of judgment came from being extremely sick, tired and frustrated beyond belief.   I've done it.  I'm sure we all have.

That doesn't mean he doesn't owe the hospital a big apology.   

If I'm sick, and I act like a prick because I'm not feeling well, I fess up and apologize. 
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« Reply #757 on: March 08, 2015, 11:21:37 AM »
Yes, but when you're a public figure, it doesn't matter how sick you are. You don't act like a spoiled brat, badmouthing another country's hospital because they wouldn't put you to the front of the line because you had to play a show for your fans, ESPECIALLY if you're over 40 years old. What kind of example is that setting?

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« Reply #758 on: March 08, 2015, 11:45:06 AM »
I'm not defending his behavior, but I also hate this "public figure" metality.   He's a human being with a job.   I don't buy that "public figures" are somehow supposed to be better than human.   

He's an imperfect person who got ticked off and screwed up.   He needs to apologize. 
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #759 on: March 08, 2015, 12:06:11 PM »
I would think British emergency room doctors have a DAMN good idea how sick a person is. If MP wasn´t prioritized, he simply wasn´t sick enough to warrant it.

Also, believe it or not, some people send follow-up posts to questionable posts of theirs, relativizing their previous outburst ("sorry guys, and I apologize, this was in the heat of the moment."
I believe the only follow-up post MP did was telling a poster "Keep it coming, and you can see how fast I ban you."
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« Reply #760 on: March 08, 2015, 12:17:33 PM »
I would think British emergency room doctors have a DAMN good idea how sick a person is. If MP wasn´t prioritized, he simply wasn´t sick enough to warrant it.

Also, believe it or not, some people send follow-up posts to questionable posts of theirs, relativizing their previous outburst ("sorry guys, and I apologize, this was in the heat of the moment."
I believe the only follow-up post MP did was telling a poster "Keep it coming, and you can see how fast I ban you."

You forgot, "show everyone how much of an idiot you are".

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #761 on: March 08, 2015, 12:23:34 PM »
I'm not defending his behavior, but I also hate this "public figure" metality.   He's a human being with a job.   I don't buy that "public figures" are somehow supposed to be better than human.   

He's an imperfect person who got ticked off and screwed up.   He needs to apologize. 
Completely agreed on all counts. The fact that he's a public figure is entirely irrelevant, which is surely the point here anyway!

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« Reply #762 on: March 08, 2015, 12:40:32 PM »
Either way, he should know better by now.

He's just destroying his image even further. I actually just replaced his signed poster on my wall.

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« Reply #763 on: March 08, 2015, 12:47:01 PM »
Who knows, maybe this was one of those painful moments in one's career where you realize "my current status is a shadow of its former self". Like, yeah, when in DT, a moment like this would have been resolved by management and the flow of sufficient money. Now he found himself being put to the back of the line like every Joe Shmoe who feels sick.
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« Reply #764 on: March 08, 2015, 12:52:46 PM »
His apology:


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« Reply #765 on: March 08, 2015, 12:55:04 PM »
Funny to post a slogan like that when he's touring with an uber-Christian. The above sentiment is the violent opposite to Jesus' teachings.
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« Reply #766 on: March 08, 2015, 12:55:57 PM »
Who knows, maybe this was one of those painful moments in one's career where you realize "my current status is a shadow of its former self". Like, yeah, when in DT, a moment like this would have been resolved by management and the flow of sufficient money. Now he found himself being put to the back of the line like every Joe Shmoe who feels sick.
But did he really need that much label support? I don't gather MP is gonna show up on some Robin Leech program or anything, but surely the guy could write a check to a private doctor somewhere. Granted I'm not familiar with UK healthcare, but isn't it possible to see a private doctor on your own dime? Hell, I'd expect the venue to actually have the number of one on hand. It's not like he needs a surgeon as part of the tour staff.
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« Reply #767 on: March 08, 2015, 12:59:08 PM »
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regardless of telling them that there is an audience waiting for our show to begin
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Cringetacular.  That would make me want to serve him that much less. 
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100.  The drummer at tonight's Neal Morse concert



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I'm not defending his behavior, but I also hate this "public figure" metality.   He's a human being with a job.   I don't buy that "public figures" are somehow supposed to be better than human.   


Well, if some dude that works on Starbucks bitches on facebook to his 350 facebook friends, it is going to have a much different impact than a popular musician bitching to his 1.3 million fans.  Nobody (well, most people) are pissed that he was upset that he was sick and didn't get treated right away.  They are pissed that he said something stupid and then doubled down instead of walking back.  Nobody is saying he should be a better human being but he should definitely be better at understanding the impact his words have. 

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« Reply #768 on: March 08, 2015, 01:11:51 PM »
Who knows, maybe this was one of those painful moments in one's career where you realize "my current status is a shadow of its former self". Like, yeah, when in DT, a moment like this would have been resolved by management and the flow of sufficient money. Now he found himself being put to the back of the line like every Joe Shmoe who feels sick.
But did he really need that much label support? I don't gather MP is gonna show up on some Robin Leech program or anything, but surely the guy could write a check to a private doctor somewhere. Granted I'm not familiar with UK healthcare, but isn't it possible to see a private doctor on your own dime? Hell, I'd expect the venue to actually have the number of one on hand. It's not like he needs a surgeon as part of the tour staff.

Well, the fact that he had to "resort" to the measly front entrance of the building seems to indicate that he either doesn't have to funds or the connections to cut the line.
To my understanding, Neal's concerts are sorta club concerts. That's the "sustainable" level of musicianship, but you're barely breaking even. Meaning, MP will likely not walk away with a lot of money from this, and management is probably mostly Neal himself.
So, when MP felt sick in DT, it was probably somebody like Frank Solomon making calls and doing the bribes to get him to a doctor. With Neal's band it's probably "dude, google for the nearest hospital. You got travel insurance, right?"
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« Reply #769 on: March 08, 2015, 01:22:31 PM »
^ That sums it up nicely I suppose.
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