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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #490 on: September 06, 2014, 02:52:30 PM »
Ok ok ok I'll admit it... that was kinda cool.
This. That was fun to watch.

Also, their rendition of Peruvian Skies wasn't bad at all.

Agreed! They sound pretty good, and congrats to them for being on that cruise! Of course, having the son of Mike Portnoy as your drummer kind of helps, but I hope there are big things for these kids as they get older, whether it's as Next To None or with other bands, these guys are pretty good! Better than I could do at that age.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #491 on: September 06, 2014, 03:13:11 PM »
If they try to use their age and Portnoy's name as a gimmick and drawing power, they'll fail like Black Tide did.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #492 on: September 06, 2014, 03:27:16 PM »
That was cool to watch!  :corn
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #493 on: September 06, 2014, 07:50:16 PM »
If they try to use their age and Portnoy's name as a gimmick and drawing power, they'll fail like Black Tide did.
Man Black Tide, that first album was awesome, and that second album while for the most part was awful, had some good metal core songs on it that I could have totally seen Black Tide fully moving on to. But no, they play that shitty alt rock shit now.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #494 on: September 06, 2014, 08:10:48 PM »
If they try to use their age and Portnoy's name as a gimmick and drawing power, they'll fail like Black Tide did.
Man Black Tide, that first album was awesome, and that second album while for the most part was awful, had some good metal core songs on it that I could have totally seen Black Tide fully moving on to. But no, they play that shitty alt rock shit now.

The first album might be good, I don't know as I haven't heard it, but I never bought into the whole "we're kids and awesome at our instruments" gimmick. They were only popular because of that, and they knew it, and once they grew up the novelty wore off and they fell off the face of the earth, and I saw it coming. Hopefully the new Symphonic Metal band Arion aren't trying to do the same thing, because their debut is pretty amazing.

If Black Tide hadn't used their age as a gimmick selling point, they might still be relevant.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #495 on: September 06, 2014, 08:46:02 PM »
I don't think it was brought up in this thread; back in mid-August MP posted this on Facebook:

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I know I'm bias, but this Next To None album is blowing me away!! I haven't been this impressed by a new Prog Metal band since Haken...
The new songs they've written are so incredibly mature and insane...they're doing the sort of stuff at age 15 & 16 that I wasn't doing in Dream Theater til I was in my 30's!
People are gonna be BLOWN AWAY by this album....

... which is, uh, a nice thing for him to say.  By comparing the album to MP's work in DT when he was "in his 30's", he's effectively said it's on par with FII, SFAM, etc, in addition to Haken's latest work.  I don't buy it at all, of course, but it must be nice to have MP as your dad if only for promotional reasons.  In other words, he is indeed bias.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #496 on: September 06, 2014, 08:57:33 PM »
I don't think it was brought up in this thread; back in mid-August MP posted this on Facebook:

Quote from: Mike Portnoy
I know I'm bias, but this Next To None album is blowing me away!! I haven't been this impressed by a new Prog Metal band since Haken...
The new songs they've written are so incredibly mature and insane...they're doing the sort of stuff at age 15 & 16 that I wasn't doing in Dream Theater til I was in my 30's!
People are gonna be BLOWN AWAY by this album....

... which is, uh, a nice thing for him to say.  By comparing the album to MP's work in DT when he was "in his 30's", he's effectively said it's on par with FII, SFAM, etc, in addition to Haken's latest work.  I don't buy it at all, of course, but it must be nice to have MP as your dad if only for promotional reasons.  In other words, he is indeed bias.
We all know MP tends to overreact everything.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #497 on: September 06, 2014, 10:01:55 PM »
I don't think it was brought up in this thread; back in mid-August MP posted this on Facebook:

Quote from: Mike Portnoy
I know I'm bias, but this Next To None album is blowing me away!! I haven't been this impressed by a new Prog Metal band since Haken...
The new songs they've written are so incredibly mature and insane...they're doing the sort of stuff at age 15 & 16 that I wasn't doing in Dream Theater til I was in my 30's!
People are gonna be BLOWN AWAY by this album....

... which is, uh, a nice thing for him to say.  By comparing the album to MP's work in DT when he was "in his 30's", he's effectively said it's on par with FII, SFAM, etc, in addition to Haken's latest work.  I don't buy it at all, of course, but it must be nice to have MP as your dad if only for promotional reasons.  In other words, he is indeed bias.
We all know MP tends to overreact everything.

So does DTF, so that should work out well. :neverusethis:
They sounded pretty good for their ages, and I enjoyed that Peruvian Skies clip. Would I actually be interested in hearing their album? Not sure.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #498 on: September 07, 2014, 04:54:13 AM »
I actually didn't think the rendition to be particularly great. Well-rehearsed to their skill level, but I honestly think they're being pushed into the spotlight beyond what is good for them. I think in the long run the association with MP is hurting them more than helping.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #499 on: September 07, 2014, 06:10:33 AM »
I actually didn't think the rendition to be particularly great. Well-rehearsed to their skill level, but I honestly think they're being pushed into the spotlight beyond what is good for them. I think in the long run the association with MP is hurting them more than helping.

How long til they get two kits on stage so MP can drum alongside Max to DT covers ?

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #500 on: September 07, 2014, 07:39:41 AM »
I don't think it was brought up in this thread; back in mid-August MP posted this on Facebook:

Quote from: Mike Portnoy
I know I'm bias, but this Next To None album is blowing me away!! I haven't been this impressed by a new Prog Metal band since Haken...
The new songs they've written are so incredibly mature and insane...they're doing the sort of stuff at age 15 & 16 that I wasn't doing in Dream Theater til I was in my 30's!
People are gonna be BLOWN AWAY by this album....

... which is, uh, a nice thing for him to say.  By comparing the album to MP's work in DT when he was "in his 30's", he's effectively said it's on par with FII, SFAM, etc, in addition to Haken's latest work.  I don't buy it at all, of course, but it must be nice to have MP as your dad if only for promotional reasons.  In other words, he is indeed bias.

On this one I'm going to say, yeah, cut the guy a little slack. His kid is in the band, of course he's biased, and good for him for admitting that at the outset. Meanwhile I'm sure many of us have made a hyperbolic comparison upon first hearing a band that we later refined upon further reflection. I know I have.

And as for whether having Mike promote the band so heavily is good or bad for them... I think if they're good enough to be successful they'll become successful sooner than they otherwise would have, and if they aren't, it won't stop them from failing. It's not really a huge deal, I don't think. And the cover was pretty good, but nothing incredible enough to convince me to investigate further (which a cover wouldn't have done anyway).
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #501 on: September 07, 2014, 07:45:53 AM »
Praising them and promoting them is one thing, but where it crossed a line for me was on the cruise. I'm not going to say I blame Portnoy, because obviously he just as a father wants the band to do well, but Next to None has two time slots on the cruise with practically no competition with anyone else playing. Meanwhile there were some much more deserving acts that had only one time slot that often conflicted with some big acts.

As for the band on the whole, there is no question, they kids are good for their age. However I don't know if they've necessarily done anything to this point to deserve the bump they've got by Portnoy's connection. I hope they do blow us away eventually and live up to his hype, but I certainly don't think they are there yet.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #502 on: September 07, 2014, 11:31:23 AM »
He also features prominently in their music video, which cemented the "MP's sons's band" feeling, instead of being a band that exists on its own merit.
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« Reply #503 on: September 07, 2014, 11:53:34 AM »
Praising them and promoting them is one thing, but where it crossed a line for me was on the cruise. I'm not going to say I blame Portnoy, because obviously he just as a father wants the band to do well, but Next to None has two time slots on the cruise with practically no competition with anyone else playing. Meanwhile there were some much more deserving acts that had only one time slot that often conflicted with some big acts.

As for the band on the whole, there is no question, they kids are good for their age. However I don't know if they've necessarily done anything to this point to deserve the bump they've got by Portnoy's connection. I hope they do blow us away eventually and live up to his hype, but I certainly don't think they are there yet.

Agree with this.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #504 on: September 07, 2014, 05:00:44 PM »
He also features prominently in their music video, which cemented the "MP's sons's band" feeling, instead of being a band that exists on its own merit.

Can someone shoop MP and mP's faces into this please?


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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #505 on: September 07, 2014, 05:47:11 PM »
 :lol

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Re: Mike Portnoy
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #507 on: September 07, 2014, 06:12:12 PM »
The kid should be like 18 and MP should be holding a sign saying " REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN DREAM THEATER ??!!!!    : )   :  ) "

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #508 on: September 07, 2014, 06:14:29 PM »
I was going to draw a flaming pit of death at the end of the sidewalk, but I'm not that skilled I thought I'd leave it up to interpretation.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #509 on: September 07, 2014, 07:24:36 PM »
Fucking fantastic, Zook!  :hefdaddy
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #510 on: September 07, 2014, 07:25:41 PM »
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« Reply #511 on: September 07, 2014, 07:28:24 PM »
Fucking fantastic, Zook!  :hefdaddy

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« Reply #512 on: September 07, 2014, 07:39:30 PM »
I forgot. Do we still resent each other?
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #513 on: September 07, 2014, 07:42:33 PM »
I think so.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #514 on: September 07, 2014, 11:01:28 PM »
The kid should be like 18 and MP should be holding a sign saying " REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN DREAM THEATER ??!!!!    : )   :  ) "

All that's missing is the angry nerd with binoculars spying from the house across the street wearing a DTF shirt.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #515 on: September 07, 2014, 11:13:41 PM »
Sorry, I don't have any of pics of Kotowboy.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #516 on: September 08, 2014, 04:41:45 AM »
And I am not a nerd. I may like the trek movies but apart from TNG I've barely seen any of the shows.


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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #517 on: September 08, 2014, 08:27:30 AM »
4 years ago today we all read a shocking press release.

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« Reply #518 on: September 08, 2014, 08:28:22 AM »
Wow, seems like yesterday.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #519 on: September 08, 2014, 09:55:34 AM »
4 years ago today we all read a shocking press release.

:omg:  Whoa, that's right!  I completely forgot that it has been 4 years since the S.F. Giants came out of nowhere to take the lead in the penant race, and eventually go on to win their first World Series since the 1950s.  How time flies!
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« Reply #520 on: September 08, 2014, 01:43:56 PM »
4 years ago today we all read a shocking press release.

" B.....B..b.b.but my P..press release ! "


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« Reply #521 on: September 08, 2014, 02:17:44 PM »
Can someone explain the press release references to me? I didn't have steady internet access for like an entire year when that was going on.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #522 on: September 08, 2014, 02:19:56 PM »
I think we're just talking about when Mikey P split from the D?

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« Reply #523 on: September 08, 2014, 02:26:03 PM »
Can someone explain the press release references to me? I didn't have steady internet access for like an entire year when that was going on.
I was around and even I have trouble remembering everything. But it was surely funny.  :lol

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« Reply #524 on: September 08, 2014, 02:52:13 PM »
It was something along the lines of :

" I thought about going back to DT but I had already put out my press release " .

And AX7 called him " too Press Release happy " meaning he would share all his private dealings with both bands in Press Releases rather than between lawyers and such.