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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #280 on: July 07, 2014, 08:30:21 AM »
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #281 on: July 07, 2014, 08:46:51 AM »
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Very much like "real" Dream Theater is Portnoy/Petrucci.

I saw him retweet this and I felt it appropriate to say excluding Myung from that equation is a slap in the face.

It's the classic "self-elevation by associating yourself with an undisputed leader". MP knows (at least by now) that JP is considered the "titan" of DT. So, of course he constructs the circle of "true DT" by including just himself and the titan.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #282 on: July 07, 2014, 08:50:38 AM »
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Very much like "real" Dream Theater is Portnoy/Petrucci.

I saw him retweet this and I felt it appropriate to say excluding Myung from that equation is a slap in the face.

It's the classic "self-elevation by associating yourself with an undisputed leader". MP knows (at least by now) that JP is considered the "titan" of DT. So, of course he constructs the circle of "true DT" by including just himself and the titan.

He didn't even write it, he retweeted it, so that's a perfectly good waste of an over-analysis.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #283 on: July 07, 2014, 08:54:01 AM »

He didn't even write it, he retweeted it, so that's a perfectly good waste of an over-analysis.

He could have corrected the original 'tweeter' to include Myung. I thought by retweeting it without the correction was pretty sad.  I like MP and his work.. but lets give credit where it's due.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #284 on: July 07, 2014, 08:54:50 AM »
Blob, I don't know if you're on twitter or not, but retweeting something is basically saying, "I agree with this so much that I am gonna retweet so all of my followers see it, too."

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #285 on: July 07, 2014, 08:58:56 AM »
Yeah, while liking on FB is more vague, retweeting means "this is exactly how I see it".
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #286 on: July 07, 2014, 09:02:38 AM »
Yeah, a FB like is more ambiguous, since people will often "like" a status so they get notifications to see how the rest of a conversation on a particular status goes.  There is little ambiguity with a retweet.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #287 on: July 07, 2014, 09:02:56 AM »
Blob, I don't know if you're on twitter or not, but retweeting something is basically saying, "I agree with this so much that I am gonna retweet so all of my followers see it, too."

I know what retweeting is (come on, really?), and I'm not justifying it, I'm just saying that rumby is wildly over-analyzing the thought behind something MP didn't even write. He saw it, liked it, and shared it.
Unless we're far gone enough to believe MP went through every tweet and there was every single combination of DT members to that effect through various tweets and specifically chose that one over all the rest because he only wanted to include JP and himself because it made him look better, or whatever ridiculous idea it was.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #288 on: July 07, 2014, 09:06:29 AM »
MP knows exactly he's prodding the hornet's nest with that retweet, after all this was in response to yet another semi-controversial comment of his.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #289 on: July 07, 2014, 09:17:00 AM »
MP knows exactly he's prodding the hornet's nest with that retweet, after all this was in response to yet another semi-controversial comment of his.

Pretty much this. If he doesn't someone associated with him needs to take his social media accounts away. Mind you I think that someone probably SHOULD tell him to get off Twitter, even perfectly innocent comments can backfire and none of the tweets and retweets around this are perfectly innocent.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #290 on: July 07, 2014, 09:31:53 AM »
Portnoy and Petrucci were always seen as the most "identifying" members of the band. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #291 on: July 07, 2014, 11:13:42 AM »
I have no problem with his opinion on Floyd because there are large numbers of people that feel the same in both directions but it did seem like cleverly masked baiting. It's unfortunate that this is the way it has to be as far as his reactions, although his response seemed a little prepared since he knew there was going to be people jumping on him. I don't know why he couldn't have just left it at his original comment.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #292 on: July 07, 2014, 11:17:29 AM »
I think Mike is a passionate person who is passionate about music and leaps before he thinks when talking or posting and always has to back peddle to explain himself.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #293 on: August 04, 2014, 09:27:59 PM »
Did not want to start a new thread for this, but I was just pondering: While DT will likely have pretty smooth sailing for the rest of their career, to the point where they will likely be able to call it a day without any (financial) headache, what do you guys think about MP's career? He's keeping busy for sure since the split, but do you think he can maintain the momentum? I saw the other day that Richie Kotzen released a new solo album and will be touring for it, and Flying Colors will only do a very short tour.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #294 on: August 04, 2014, 09:29:47 PM »
He'll just find something else to latch on to.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #295 on: August 05, 2014, 12:17:57 AM »
I'd like to see him find a permanent "musical" home, instead of jumping from one thing to another all the time - starting all these projects. But he's just not that kind of person though.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #296 on: August 05, 2014, 02:17:31 AM »
Constantly jumping from one project to another he might catch a MTD (Musically Transmitted Disease) sooner or later. :biggrin:

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #297 on: August 05, 2014, 02:27:33 AM »
I'd like to see him find a permanent "musical" home, instead of jumping from one thing to another all the time - starting all these projects. But he's just not that kind of person though.

Well he was with DT for 25 years....
I think he'd be happy to have a stable musical home at this point, while keeping up with his other bands on the side, but most of his projects since leaving DT have been side projects for the other musicians, so I don't think any of them could be a "main" project like he'd hoped.
I think his best bet is to join an established band that needs a drummer, but it's a matter of who actually needs one.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #298 on: August 05, 2014, 02:33:12 AM »
I'd like to see him find a permanent "musical" home, instead of jumping from one thing to another all the time - starting all these projects. But he's just not that kind of person though.

I agree with this. I really like his drumming in DT, but I haven't had any interest in his projects since then. Apart from his drumming with Avenged Sevenfold, I haven't cared enough to check any of them out.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #299 on: August 05, 2014, 06:40:18 AM »
Over the course of the last year, the Winery Dogs have played 100 shows.  That's a lot, so as long as Richie and Billy stay interested, that is probably as close to a "permanent" gig as he will have, barring something unforeseen happening.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #300 on: August 05, 2014, 06:54:09 AM »
I'd like to see him find a permanent "musical" home, instead of jumping from one thing to another all the time - starting all these projects. But he's just not that kind of person though.

Well he was with DT for 25 years....
I think he'd be happy to have a stable musical home at this point, while keeping up with his other bands on the side, but most of his projects since leaving DT have been side projects for the other musicians, so I don't think any of them could be a "main" project like he'd hoped.
I think his best bet is to join an established band that needs a drummer, but it's a matter of who actually needs one.

I wonder if he'd play in SlipKnot if they asked him. He might have to practice his Blast Beats though.

He has a similar style to Jordison I think.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #301 on: August 05, 2014, 06:57:18 AM »
I'd like to see him find a permanent "musical" home, instead of jumping from one thing to another all the time - starting all these projects. But he's just not that kind of person though.

Well he was with DT for 25 years....
I think he'd be happy to have a stable musical home at this point, while keeping up with his other bands on the side, but most of his projects since leaving DT have been side projects for the other musicians, so I don't think any of them could be a "main" project like he'd hoped.
I think his best bet is to join an established band that needs a drummer, but it's a matter of who actually needs one.

I wonder if he'd play in SlipKnot if they asked him. He might have to practice his Blast Beats though.

He has a similar style to Jordison I think.

I wonder what kind of mask he would wear.  :lol

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #302 on: August 05, 2014, 06:58:15 AM »
It would be a mask of his own face.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #303 on: August 05, 2014, 07:02:16 AM »
It would be a mask of his own face.

How bout a mask of Mangini's face?  :biggrin:

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« Reply #304 on: August 05, 2014, 09:48:09 AM »
Over the course of the last year, the Winery Dogs have played 100 shows.  That's a lot, so as long as Richie and Billy stay interested, that is probably as close to a "permanent" gig as he will have, barring something unforeseen happening.

Billy I could see wanting to continue this, but Ritchie is the one who I always thought would (and now did) return to his solo stuff.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #305 on: August 05, 2014, 09:50:48 AM »
I could be wrong, but I was never under the impression that Ritchie's solo stuff was ever really going anywhere.  Billy seems to have the most opportunities of the three because he is in demand. 
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« Reply #306 on: August 05, 2014, 09:57:29 AM »
This is really just based on a gut feeling, but Ritchie has been doing his own thing that "isn't going anywhere" (I agree with the assessment) for such a long time, he strikes me as the kind of musician who, if only 50 people show up to his gigs, that's fine too, as long as he's doing "his" music. Like, the guy has put out 19 (nineteen) solo albums.
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« Reply #307 on: August 05, 2014, 10:12:58 AM »
Well...yeah, I guess I can't really disagree with that.  :lol
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #308 on: August 05, 2014, 10:22:51 AM »
It seems like Mike is in a pretty good groove with his professional life. As Hef noted, the Dogs have been quite busy the last year or so, and when they aren't on the road he can do Flying Colors/TA/MSPS etc.

I don't see him doing another big gig like Avenged or Slipknot, unless he is just brought in to record in the studio.

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« Reply #309 on: August 05, 2014, 10:59:11 AM »
If Mike ever wanted something more stable and wanted to go back to his prog metal roots, he can just pull a DT and do some mass interviews for a guitarist, keyboard player, singer and bassist and start a permanent progressive metal band. He doesn't have to keep missing DT, he can just make another. There's a ton of insanely talented people out there that I'm sure would go for it if he put the effort into it. I bet a lot of these big named solo artists might even consider MPs proposition. He was able to pull the Winery Dogs together fairly easily, I'm sure he would be able to do the same with a prog metal band if he wanted to, too.

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« Reply #310 on: August 05, 2014, 11:07:27 AM »
Billy seems to have the most opportunities of the three because he is in demand.

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« Reply #311 on: August 05, 2014, 11:26:22 AM »
There's a ton of insanely talented people out there that I'm sure would go for it if he put the effort into it. I bet a lot of these big named solo artists might even consider MPs proposition. He was able to pull the Winery Dogs together fairly easily, I'm sure he would be able to do the same with a prog metal band if he wanted to, too.

I'm not sure about these ease of pulling a fresh prog metal band together. Would a young (i.e. in their 20s) band want MP in their band? Hardly, there's just too much age difference. A7X "used" MP for one tour to keep the momentum up, but they never had any intention of making him a full member. So, MP would have to fish in the pool of people his age, but that's essentially what he's been doing already.
I think to a good degree the type of future projects he will do depends on the phone numbers he has. For example, he had contact to Richie Kotzen, but clearly he wouldn't form a prog metal band with Richie.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #312 on: August 08, 2014, 03:02:10 PM »
Over the course of the last year, the Winery Dogs have played 100 shows.  That's a lot, so as long as Richie and Billy stay interested, that is probably as close to a "permanent" gig as he will have, barring something unforeseen happening.

Billy I could see wanting to continue this, but Ritchie is the one who I always thought would (and now did) return to his solo stuff.

From the beginning I always figured this a five year run, but really you just ride the wave and go with it. Could last longer if there are no concerns about quotas and happy accountants.


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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #313 on: August 08, 2014, 11:19:47 PM »
Constantly jumping from one project to another he might catch a MTD (Musically Transmitted Disease) sooner or later. :biggrin:

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #314 on: August 09, 2014, 12:31:35 AM »
Constantly jumping from one project to another he might catch a MTD (Musically Transmitted Disease) sooner or later. :biggrin:

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Or he might hook up with the right 3 guys, crank out the next High Enough, sell 2 million units and retire rich and famous. Stranger stuff's been known to happen.

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