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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #175 on: June 24, 2014, 08:20:07 PM »
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #176 on: June 24, 2014, 09:44:24 PM »
This thread is why we can't have nice things.
Only King could mis-spell a LETTER.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #177 on: June 24, 2014, 09:52:17 PM »
...and I was the "bash"er last week..   :yeahright :\

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #178 on: June 24, 2014, 10:26:54 PM »
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #179 on: June 25, 2014, 12:45:46 AM »
In other words, MP should grow up.
Come on now, there's no call for that.

There's nothing wrong with saying someone should grow up. If he doesn't like me saying it, he can tell me himself. That is what he does best.
Actually, it's pretty rude and there's nothing remotely constructive about it. Please stop.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #180 on: June 25, 2014, 02:07:12 AM »
I've said this once before- really I don't think anyone from Dream Theater goes to online forums for constructive criticism. The internet is a place for bashing, fan-girl-ing, trolling, and honest criticism/approval.. A forum ideally being the place for the latter- honest critique.

On a forum, the discussion should be-
"Mike Portnoy makes an child out of himself when he reacts to fans online this way"
"No, I think there was nothing wrong with what he said"
"Well I do because XYZ"
"Well I don't because XYZ"

NOT necessarily-
"Mike Portnoy is good at a lot of things and I respect him as a man and musician. When it comes to fan interaction, he's very good at being involved in discussion and keeping fans interested online, however I would suggest he responds to bashing with A rather than B"
"Well I think instead he should do C"
"I think MP should live like D because XYZ"
"No, I think either A or C is suitable for Portnoy"

It should be "That song sucks/rocks because..." and probably not "When John Petrucci writes a song he should..".

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #181 on: June 25, 2014, 02:09:07 AM »
Why would anybody want that? Then this place would be just like the idiotic comments section on YouTube.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #182 on: June 25, 2014, 02:16:20 AM »
No, it would be the idiot youtube comments section except without the senseless, unconditional bashing and fan-girling, and where the arguments are honest and supported by points.

And either way it would be better than a group of thousands of A-holes making a list of ways that Mr. Rich and Happy Blue-Beard should live his life, or telling him how to write.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #183 on: June 25, 2014, 02:27:14 AM »
This thread is a petri dish.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #184 on: June 25, 2014, 03:05:57 AM »
If someone on this forum would make a thread about me and hate on me for whatever reason I would get pretty hurt.
I would do everything to defend myself but everything I say would get twisted and the hate keeps building.
I could ignore it obviously but whatever i'll do the thread is still there and it would be hard for me to not be reminded of it because in the end it's the only forum I visit reguarly and care about.

I feel the same could be said about artists emotionally connected to their life work.
The right thing is to ignore it and move on but we'll also know how something small on the internet can spread like cancer and blow up out of porportion. When that something is also your livelihood it can be emotional.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #185 on: June 25, 2014, 07:29:54 AM »
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #186 on: June 25, 2014, 07:31:12 AM »
This thread is a petri dish.
AND YOU'RE THE EYE DROPPER!!! >:(



Just kidding...just wanted to say that. :biggrin:

This thread is so entertaining you should have to pay $2.99 a month be able to post in it! :metal

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #187 on: June 25, 2014, 07:34:59 AM »
This thread is so entertaining you should have to pay $2.99 a month be able to post in it! :metal
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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #188 on: June 25, 2014, 08:56:29 AM »
This thread is so entertaining you should have to pay $2.99 a month be able to post in it! :metal
:lol

INB4 MP charges people to post on his forum.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #189 on: June 25, 2014, 10:13:02 AM »
I've said this once before- really I don't think anyone from Dream Theater goes to online forums for constructive criticism. The internet is a place for bashing, fan-girl-ing, trolling, and honest criticism/approval.. A forum ideally being the place for the latter- honest critique.

Frankly, what you or anyone thinks the Internet is about is completely irrelevant to what this forum is about.  This forum is for a subset of "honest critique"--that subset of honest critique that is constructive and not bashing.  People can be honest and be jerks about it.  If that happens here, people are banned, plain and simple.  Anyone who does not want to comply with that knows where the door is (or is shown the door if need be).

But this thread is not about your (or anyone else's) personal wish list about what the forum should be.  It is about Mike Portnoy.  Anyone who cannot post in this thread without breaking the rules will face consequences.  That is not up for debate and is off topic.  Now please get the discussion back ON topic.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #190 on: June 25, 2014, 10:24:37 AM »
I've said this once before- really I don't think anyone from Dream Theater goes to online forums for constructive criticism. The internet is a place for bashing, fan-girl-ing, trolling, and honest criticism/approval.. A forum ideally being the place for the latter- honest critique.

Frankly, what you or anyone thinks the Internet is about is completely irrelevant to what this forum is about.  This forum is for a subset of "honest critique"--that subset of honest critique that is constructive and not bashing.  People can be honest and be jerks about it.  If that happens here, people are banned, plain and simple.  Anyone who does not want to comply with that knows where the door is (or is shown the door if need be).

But this thread is not about your (or anyone else's) personal wish list about what the forum should be.  It is about Mike Portnoy.  Anyone who cannot post in this thread without breaking the rules will pay $2.99 a month to me! OR face consequences.  That is not up for debate and is off topic.  Now please get the discussion back ON topic.


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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #191 on: June 25, 2014, 10:58:39 AM »
:lol
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #192 on: June 25, 2014, 01:47:20 PM »
I always thought Mike should have an official "media person" as a middle man. So, instead of reading the online stuff himself, that media person would give a summary to MP. Like, "yeah, Adrenaline Mob has very mixed reviews, a lot of people think you're selling yourself under value....". That impersonalizes a lot of the criticism, which seems to be MP's biggest problem.

Regarding this forum, I would say it is *THE* forum for reading honest criticism of both MP and DT stuff. Blabbermouth and Youtube are just ":lolz Mike Porntoy neads to stop!!!", and mp.com essentially doesn't tolerate dissent.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #193 on: June 25, 2014, 03:02:32 PM »
Unfortunately it wouldn't last as MP would just try to take over the job as the media person rendering the whole thing pointless.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #194 on: June 25, 2014, 03:50:53 PM »
Holy hell man. Did the man fart on you? Dookie in your cereal?

You are just shitting all over the place. God damn. Take a break, get Portnoy off the brain. You'll get more wrinkles if you keep on like this.

It's time. It's time to say goodbye and quit letting this man ruin your life. HE'S DONE ENOUGH TO YOU! *flails arms and penis slaps random objects*

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #195 on: June 25, 2014, 04:04:47 PM »
Oh wow, another FB post addressing his detractors. When will you learn, MP...
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #196 on: June 25, 2014, 05:01:30 PM »
Holy hell man. Did the man fart on you? Dookie in your cereal?

You are just shitting all over the place. God damn. Take a break, get Portnoy off the brain. You'll get more wrinkles if you keep on like this.

It's time. It's time to say goodbye and quit letting this man ruin your life. HE'S DONE ENOUGH TO YOU! *flails arms and penis slaps random objects*

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #197 on: June 25, 2014, 05:29:43 PM »
I hope he sees most of the money for it and not the technology company.  If there's one guy who can make this worth it, it would be him.

Me? I'd rather pay $100 during an open house to his basement once a year for a guided tour of his music collection.  He might see more of the money that way too.

You'd pay $100 to stare at different media formats?

Yup, provided they aren't on a computer or music server. I'm sure there's a story for practically every one.


Failing that, I'd certainly pay $20 for a compiled DVD of all of these at the end of a year or something.

Your mileage may vary. 

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #198 on: June 25, 2014, 08:24:39 PM »
No I don't take that back, I respectfully think that's silly, and also that's NOT what the rules say.

"Honest, open critique is always allowed, provided it does not cross the line and become bashing, belittling, etc."

THIS-

I always thought Mike should have an official "media person" as a middle man. So, instead of reading the online stuff himself, that media person would give a summary to MP. Like, "yeah, Adrenaline Mob has very mixed reviews, a lot of people think you're selling yourself under value....". That impersonalizes a lot of the criticism, which seems to be MP's biggest problem.
He should have the same attitude as the guys from Psycrence, and be happy he's being acknowledged at all.
He reads way too much fan comments, and his blood boils up whenever he reads something that's negative.

is belittling.

If you don't like that the thread is derailed, don't blame me for asking that people can both criticize and approve of the topic freely and with dignity without a obligation to be "constructive".

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #199 on: June 25, 2014, 08:32:17 PM »
You're way outta line soldier.



Soap 'im, boys.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #200 on: June 25, 2014, 08:38:53 PM »
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #201 on: June 25, 2014, 08:41:56 PM »
You know what, okay screw it. I've said it, I've made my point. I'm gonna shut up about it now. Let the "discussion" continue and I'll deal with it because I freaking love this forum. Hope you all at least see what I'm saying.


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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #202 on: June 25, 2014, 08:43:59 PM »
We are picking on you because like the others who bash Mike to no end, you are unabashed in you defense of him.  We are in the middle.  I love him and his music to death, I just wish he'd pull back from commenting on all the idiots.
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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #203 on: June 25, 2014, 09:19:44 PM »
No I don't take that back, I respectfully think that's silly, and also that's NOT what the rules say.

"Honest, open critique is always allowed, provided it does not cross the line and become bashing, belittling, etc."

THIS-

I always thought Mike should have an official "media person" as a middle man. So, instead of reading the online stuff himself, that media person would give a summary to MP. Like, "yeah, Adrenaline Mob has very mixed reviews, a lot of people think you're selling yourself under value....". That impersonalizes a lot of the criticism, which seems to be MP's biggest problem.
He should have the same attitude as the guys from Psycrence, and be happy he's being acknowledged at all.
He reads way too much fan comments, and his blood boils up whenever he reads something that's negative.

is belittling.

If you don't like that the thread is derailed, don't blame me for asking that people can both criticize and approve of the topic freely and with dignity without a obligation to be "constructive".

How in the world is Rumby's statement belittling? He said it in possibly the most civil way possible. You may simply not agree with it (which is the main impulse trigger of someone labeling something as bashing/belittling/trolling without really taking in how it's being presented) but it's not really out of left field considering the way Portnoy has acted towards criticism over the years. Most people are just commenting because of how predictable it has become and would just like to see a successful grown man not suffer from a bad trait that many people have but have learned to control during the course of their lives.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #204 on: June 25, 2014, 09:23:52 PM »
How was my comment belitting? He should also hang out with Nick Van Dyk who doesn't let criticism affect him. Is saying that belittling too?

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #205 on: June 25, 2014, 09:30:05 PM »
None of those quoted comments were belittling, and normally I would say it is baffling how anyone could think otherwise, but not when it comes to ardent Portnoy defenders.  They are tenacious and loyal if nothing else. :lol :biggrin:

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #206 on: June 25, 2014, 09:39:15 PM »
I'd just like to say that I'm not a Portnoy hater.

But he is in the same box I keep Jon Schaffer.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #207 on: June 25, 2014, 10:36:59 PM »
Am I the only member of the forum who holds the substance of what you're saying to be more important than the tone?

It's belittling to tell Mike Portnoy that he needs to censor information for himself or that he should live his life in a less proud manner, regardless of how you phrase it. And that's not because I disagree with it. And in fact, even though it's belittling, I would have NO problem with that being allowed on the forum. I'm only pointing out that according to the forum rules, it really isn't allowed because they do NOT say that criticism has to be constructive; they say that it must NOT be belittling (which I find most constructive criticism in a scenario like this to be).

And if you don't believe me- In fact, look back just a few posts at how I first contributed to this argument, and I was supporting someone I thoroughly disagreed with substantively.

That's because I would rather have a discussion with group of stable and proud people even with points that I disagree with, than have one with a load of wimps who are afraid to say what they mean because they'd rather patronize the person who is our subject matter.

I'm not even claiming to be the most eloquent speaker, but I will tell you for a fact that I am NOT disrespecting anyone, nor am I unconditionally loving anyone. Truth is, I've said very negative things about Mike Portnoy plenty of times on this forum, you're just choosing not to see it.


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I'm gonna shut up about it now.
I changed my mind. Maybe this time.

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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #208 on: June 25, 2014, 10:44:29 PM »
I'm not sure what your end point was...and I don't exactly get it...but...


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Re: Mike Portnoy
« Reply #209 on: June 25, 2014, 10:51:12 PM »
I'm not a mod, but I can quote one.

But this thread is not about your (or anyone else's) personal wish list about what the forum should be.  It is about Mike Portnoy.  Anyone who cannot post in this thread without breaking the rules will face consequences.  That is not up for debate and is off topic.  Now please get the discussion back ON topic.

On topic, it seems the secret tweeting thing is working out well for Mike, so good for him, I suppose.