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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1190 on: April 09, 2015, 01:15:34 PM »
No love for Star Soldier? :sadpanda: Ok, have both a mainstream and an obscure game now :angry:

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Plants vs Zombies
2009

I have no idea why I love this game so much. I'm not even a fan of tower defence games. It looks for children. It has zombies. It's easy to play. So what's the deal?

It's brilliant design.

The concept is quite simple: Zombies want your brains, and they will try to reach your house, but you have lots of leaf pokemon plants that can defend you. And at the end of each level, you unlock a new one. Or sometimes there's a minigame. And zombies get tougher and new kinds are introduced through the whole 50 levels.

There are 5 maps with 10 levels each, but they're quite different. Not just in appearance (although 2 of them are "night" versions of the previous "during the day" maps), but in how they're played. You start with your front garden, which has just 5 rows, and it's sunny. It's quite easy to beat, and most of the plants you use throughout the game are found here. And the following level is your front garden (again), at night. What does this mean?

That you can't collect suns that fall from the sky. Each plant costs a certain amount of suns (energy points), and the sunflowers can produce them for you. During the day, suns will fall from above the map quite often, so putting enough sunflowers will provide you with all the energy you need. But at night, that doesn't happen.

The player starts with 50 suns, the cost of a single sunflower, and each sun values 25 units. And sunflowers produce suns every minute or so. So during the night you'd have to wait a lot until you can have enough suns to plant more sunflowers, and then start defending yourself. But the designers were smart, and included both an alternative and a solution.

The alternative is a small golden mushroom, which costs 25, but they only produce small suns, of 15 units each. But let them grow for a few minutes, and they start producing normal suns. The solution is a small puff-shroom which costs absolutely nothing and recharges quite fast, so that's your first line of defence at night.

On the third map, it's day again, but you're on your backyard, where you have a pool! And 6 rows now. It increases the number of plants and the variety (water plants), but it also means more zombies. Including those who swim on dead dolphins. Don't forget that they can eat your plants, but more important is being prepared for the flags. Several times in a level or just at the end of it, a huge wave of zombies appears, so you have to ready to face it.

And the fourth map is on the backyard again, at night... with fog. They are by large the most difficult and frustrating 10 levels you'll play here. Just thinking about it makes want to stop writing :lol . And the fifth map features an interesting part of your house. But I'll let you discover it.

I guess that, in the end, what fascinated me more was how original and addictive it is. And hilarious at times. How is that football players, miners, and even disco-dancing people turned into walking deads? And how is that a traffic cone can instantly raise up the defences of one of them? Seriously. But anyways, I've replayed this one countless times, completed all the minigames and puzzles, bought all the special plants, and even reached around 80 flags on the endless survival. If you haven't played, go and get ASAP. It's available on lots of consoles, and even for Android/iOs. You won't regret.

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Shinobido: Way of the Ninja
2005

So after my beloved PSOne, what did I do? The natural, obvious thing: bought a PS2 ;D This title is among my very favorites from that console.

You take the role as an amnesiac ninja who just woke up in the middle of the forest, next to a river and an abandoned shack. And a sword, lying next to him. He sees an arrow, lodged on the shack's wall., which has a written letter attached. The writer, apparently, is simply a "concerned bystander", and further identifies the amnesiac man as "Goh", a ninja of the Asuka clan, which was wiped out the previous day. The letter informs Goh that his memories and soul have somehow been stolen and placed within eight mystical stones which were scattered during the initial attack on the Asuka ninjas' village, and then further scattered by people who have located and claimed the stones.

Using your old hut as your headquarters, it's your duty to locate the stones to reclaim Goh's memory and discover the truth regarding the destruction of the Asuka village. But this is such a monumental task, and one single man can't do it. So you have to gain the protection and trust of either one of 3 powerful warlords and charismatic leaders, which will assign you missions to complete.

And here's the great thing. You can either complete them by being completely silent as the ninja you are, or going crazy, killing dozens of them at one time and having another dozen looking for you through the city, or the fortress. Normally, the silent way gained you much more respect from the warlords. Specially when they asked you to do it so.

But sometimes folk won't like your actions, and will send assassins to your hut. Thus, you can set lots of smart traps on your garden, and watch your enemies die. But if they manage to trespass your guard, you have to go and fight them. On this mode you can design your backyard as you please - with a certain limit, of course, but seeing your enemies fall into a trapdoor with spikes on the bottom is priceless.

And of course have the alchemy. Sometimes you might find recipes, of certain poisons that would recover you health, or increase your strength. Or just spare notes about a poor man that was experimenting with an invisibility poison, but before finishing, he added the wrong ingredient and it all exploded, killing him. Gathering mushrooms and herbs on the forest before going to kill a wild bear (an extra mission), or stealing some from a special room in a fortress, are some ways of collecting them.

But the funniest part is a special mode that is unlocked once you finish the game. It enables you to make your own map, and mission! Although the map wasn't too big, I'd spend hours designing fortresses, awkward forests, and giving myself weird tasks, like escorting someone from point A to B, or killing a huge enemies who was surrounded by thousands of solders. It was fun.

It's been years since I last played it, but I'm now amused by the huge amount of content it had, and even 4 different endings (I only managed to see 3 of them :yeahright )! Damn, I should get an used PS2 (guess what happened to mine :lol ) and replay it ASAP, for I think PCSX2 doesn't run it. If you still have one, go and get this shit. Oh, and did I mention it was made by the same company as Tenchu?

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1191 on: April 11, 2015, 12:02:04 PM »
Nope? No love for PvZ? ::) Another update coming later today.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1192 on: April 11, 2015, 04:32:48 PM »
Did I enjoy PvZ?  Yes.
Would I call it a great game?  Not even close.  Too easy.

I don't think it would make my top 15 iPhone games, 25 if I include iPad games.

I only ever had an NES and a Wii, Goldeneye is the only game from the systems in between I really recall playing.

I'm sure if I made a list, it would be half "Fuck yeah!" games with half "Huh?" game as well.
     

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1193 on: April 12, 2015, 12:45:05 PM »
I'm sure if I made a list, it would be half "Fuck yeah!" games with half "Huh?" game as well.
Well, that's actually how I view my own :lol .


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Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven
2002


Oh gawd. The feels. This is a game for which I have a deep emotional connection, one I'll try to explain the best I can.

Mafia is a sandbox set in the 1930s, between the fall of 1930 through to the end of 1938, during the later part of Prohibition, which ended in 1933. The game is set in the fictional American city of Lost Heaven (somehow based on New York City and Chicago of the same time period). The player takes the role of taxi driver Thomas "Tommy" Angelo, who, while trying to make a living on the streets of Lost Heaven, unexpectedly (and unwillingly) becomes involved in organized crime as a driver for the Salieri crime family, led by Don Ennio Salieri.

Through the events of the game's plot, Tommy begins to rise through the ranks of the Salieri 'family', which is currently battling the competing Morello family, led by the sharply-dressed Don Morello. Eventually becoming disillusioned by his life of crime and violence, Tommy arranges to meet a detective named Norman in order to tell him his story, to be given witness-protection, and to aid the detective in the destruction of the Salieri. The 'Intermezzo' chapters of the game depict Tommy sitting in a cafe with the detective, relating his life story and giving out important pieces of information at the same time.

I will just that the plot gets more and more complex, with lots of near-to-impossible missions (that race... is evil on it's purest form) and interesting twists. Although the combat system is quite regular, the driving is what takes the cake. Beign able to go around the city, crashing civilians, like a GTA, but with cars from the 1930s is pretty *awesome*. And there's even a mode with missions about finding objects, which features lots of ramps, even a giant one - if you managed to run down the city hill at full speed and then jumped, you would be able to fly over the whole river!

But it wasn't the gameplay what I loved. it was the story. The crude, wrenching plot. Damn, I just fell sadder and sadder until the end. When I cried like a kid. Metaphorically, of course. This game showed me how even a good person with noble intentions could have the worst of fates - it hit me so hard. I shall not say more - you should find it out.


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Bioshock
2007


A modern classic.  I believe that, like we see games as Super Mario World, Ocarina of Time, and FFVII as landmarks of the videogame industry, in 20 years we'll look back at the Bioshock series and make the same affirmation - the quality of it's three titles is nearly flawless. And although they may just seem as "FPS with some RPG elements and a cool city", it's far deeper than that. It actually uses the FPS as a medium to tell a story. A dark story, with lots of twists and tragic events.

This is where it all begins.

Back in 1960, a plane travels across the ocean, but it ends up crashing. Jack is the only survivor. And near him sees a "watchtower". But it isn't. Inside it there is a bathysphere. It leads underwater. To a city.

Rapture.

Built by the business magnate Andrew Ryan, the city was intended to be an isolated utopia, but the discovery of ADAM, a plasmid which grants superhuman powers, initiated the city's turbulent decline. Jack tries to find a way to escape, fighting through hordes of ADAM-obsessed enemies, and the iconic, deadly Big Daddies, while engaging with the few sane humans that remain and eventually learning of Rapture's past.

The player, as Jack, is able to defeat foes in a number of ways by using weapons, utilizing plasmids that give unique powers and by turning Rapture's own defenses against them. It all leads to a hell lot of fun.

But the core of the game, the story, is... huge. Ken Levine, lead designer and creative genius of Irrational Games, based on the ideas of Objectivism as highlighted by Ayn Rand, set the foundations for a highly-individualist society, which has science and human intelligence at its highest value. But throughout the game, you see how imperfect the society is (well, was), far from Rand's ideals. And the reason behind Big Daddies and Little Sisters is... wow.

The game has 3 possible endings, according to certain moral decisions you have to make during the game. Some are tough, since making some choice will get you an extra that will surely help you defend from the enemies. But is it worth the price? Will you be cold-blooded enough?

It's up to you - would you kindly?
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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1194 on: April 13, 2015, 12:22:02 AM »
Well, the picture of Bioshock matches the description of Bioshock, so I'm pretty sure it isn't Shinobido: Way of the Ninja. :lol

It's a very cool game though.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1195 on: April 13, 2015, 07:03:36 AM »
BioShock was such an awesome game (as well as the other two, but the first one is more special). You make a comment about how you think the game will go down as a classic, but one reason why it may be known as a classic in the end was that it was one of the first games for the xbox 360. That game showed off how awesome the 360 was.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1196 on: April 13, 2015, 10:35:36 AM »
Well, the picture of Bioshock matches the description of Bioshock, so I'm pretty sure it isn't Shinobido: Way of the Ninja. :lol

How the hell did I forget to change that :rollin

BioShock was such an awesome game (as well as the other two, but the first one is more special). You make a comment about how you think the game will go down as a classic, but one reason why it may be known as a classic in the end was that it was one of the first games for the xbox 360. That game showed off how awesome the 360 was.
Its possible, but I think it will looked more as an example of brilliant storytelling and game design.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1197 on: April 13, 2015, 11:27:57 AM »
Bioshock had no hard moral choices because the rewards for the good option were always overall greater than the evil option  :lol
But it is a pretty good game, yes, the plot's great and the atmosphere's great as well. I've played Infinite as well and I liked that one too but Rapture is way more interesting than Columbia.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1198 on: April 13, 2015, 11:32:51 AM »
Bioshock had no hard moral choices because the rewards for the good option were always overall greater than the evil option  :lol
Well, harvesting them gave you a lot of ADAM rather than just saving them :P

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1199 on: April 13, 2015, 11:36:46 AM »
yeah and then like every third one you saved you got this lovely reward package that more than made up the ADAM deficit  :lol

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« Reply #1200 on: April 13, 2015, 03:47:34 PM »
yeah and then like every third one you saved you got this lovely reward package that more than made up the ADAM deficit  :lol
Yeah you didn't know that at the start though. And if you harvest even one, you don't get the "good" ending. A lot of gamers would immediately start with "more EXP? Kill 'em all then!".

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1201 on: April 13, 2015, 04:09:43 PM »
I LOVED Mafia. Such a great game, sadly I played the bad PS2 port, but I still loved it. Great story, underrated really. And yes, the race.... Not so much the race, but the mission before it where you're on the time limit and can't damage the vehicle--that was frustrating..
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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1202 on: April 13, 2015, 08:25:02 PM »
man i must not be "most gamers" then  :lol

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« Reply #1203 on: April 13, 2015, 08:26:29 PM »
Bioshock is a classic.

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« Reply #1204 on: April 14, 2015, 12:00:23 AM »
man i must not be "most gamers" then  :lol
Hey now, I never said "most".

And yeah I'm the same - I usually instinctively go for the "good" option as well.

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« Reply #1205 on: April 14, 2015, 05:59:36 AM »
I love the BioShock series. I remember hearing about the first two all the time but it was actually Infinite that got me into the series.

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« Reply #1206 on: April 14, 2015, 05:29:52 PM »
I LOVED Mafia. Such a great game, sadly I played the bad PS2 port, but I still loved it. Great story, underrated really.
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Super Mario Galaxy 2
2010

Although the Wii was a huge success in sales from the very beginning, it needed an iconic game to last in the market. A new Mario seemed the logical conclusion, as SM64 for the N64, and Sunshine for the Gamecube. However, fans from all over the world, were wondering where Mario would go on his next adventure. Being featured in hundreds of games already, it seemed unlikely to find new, unexplored ground for our fav Italian plumber.

And then Super Mario Galaxy was announced.

Mario goes into space! Even the skepticals where eating humble pie when it was released - the franchise had been in a kind of creative impasse. And Galaxy came with brand new gameplay, settings, maps, enemies, and even aesthetics, which is still used up to this day.

Nintendo has always been at the top of level design, and they delivered. Every level, every galaxy, every mission, is unique and creative. A lot of work was put into this title - just look at the crazy amount of content there is.

The mission of the games was pretty obvious: rescue Princess Peach from Bowser. But this time they took the "collecting stars" model from SM64, and improved it, separating the words into galaxies, each one with a boss at the end. And with the star bits, if you collected enough, you could feed a little star so it could turn into an extra level.

But this one is the sequel, not the original SMG. When it was announced, there was a bit of controversy, because Nintendo said there was no story to tell here, besides the typical. And in the end, I realised I loved the Mario games for everything but the plot. SMG2 just took an awesome game, and improved it beyond what I could imagine. And although most of the changes were minimal, to be honest, the one that changed it all was the addition of Yoshi. It rocked my world.

Before I forget it, I want to mention the soundtrack. This time, Koji Kondo collaborated with other composers and a small orchestra. And the result is superb. Travelling through the stars, hearing such beautiful pieces, just elevates this game to another level. Its OST is among my top 3 soundtracks, and that's to say a lot since I don't tend to give them a fair listen, or maybe it is they are just boring neoclassical drone tunes.

And for those who prefer the classic games and think this is an easy title, let me tell ya something. Yes, the main "campaign" or the minimal levels required to beat it are easy. But try to get all the 242 stars, and tell me if this is still for little kids.


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Okami
2006

I don't want to start a debate of wether or not videogames are art. I believe they have the potential to be art, but there are very few games I'd even dare to call such thing.

This is one of them.

Okami is set on an fictional feudal Japanese land (called Nippon), and combines several classical myths, legends and folklore to tell the story of how the land was saved from darkness by the Shinto sun goddess, named Amaterasu, who took the form of a white wolf. The legend describes how Shiranui, a pure white wolf, and Nagi, a swordsman, together fought the eight-headed demon Orochi to save Kamiki Village and the maiden Nami, Nagi's beloved. Shiranui and Nagi are unable to defeat Orochi, so they seal the demon away.

In the game's present, someone, breaks Orochi's seal due to the fact that he does not believe in the legend and wants to prove it false; Orochi escapes and curses the lands, sapping the life from every living being. Sakuya, the wood sprite and guardian of Kamiki Village, calls forth Amaterasu, the sun goddess, known to the villagers as the reincarnation of the white wolf Shiranui, and pleads for her to remove the curse that covers the land. Accompanied by the artist Issun (an inch-high creature known as a Poncle), Amaterasu has to restore the land to its former beauty.

And to do so, the player has a unique feature - the Celestial Brush. It's a God's power which, by drawing on a Celestial Canvas, can use some of nature's powers, such as making the sun shine during the night, or resurrecting a dead plant. Along the journey, you meet another gods, who will grant you these powers (Techniques), while also telling you about the background story - and there's a lot more than what it can seem at first.

And this OST might be on my top 3 too - I love Japanese folk, and this soundtrack is a blessing to the ears. Flutes everywhere :heart . Even if you're not planning to play this game, go and listen it. Now. I played it on Wii some years ago, and recently replayed it on the PS3 HD port. And it's the definitive version - this game looks *so* good on a big, High-Definition screen. Go and get it.

I wished to tell more, but you can only play it once for the first time. This is a game that must be experienced.

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« Reply #1207 on: April 14, 2015, 05:32:37 PM »
Played a good bit of the first Galaxy, but hear the 2nd one is way better.

Okami, never played, but it has been on my list for a while now.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1208 on: April 14, 2015, 07:38:35 PM »
Okami is a masterpiece. 'nuff said.
Both Galaxy games are great though I remember the second less than the first.

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« Reply #1209 on: April 14, 2015, 08:19:28 PM »
Oh look, it's the best PS2 game, Okami  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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« Reply #1210 on: April 14, 2015, 08:58:48 PM »
Okami, one of my top 25 games too, fantastic visual style :tup

I loved playing Mario 64 (my first 3D Mario game) earlier this year so i have a feeling i'm gonna love the Galaxy games too when i finally try them (and not forgetting Sunshine first).
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« Reply #1211 on: April 14, 2015, 09:45:50 PM »
Wow, didn't even know there was an HD version of one of my all time favorite games! If I ever get a PS3 this'll be right at the top of my list.

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« Reply #1212 on: April 14, 2015, 09:46:56 PM »
I still remember how in awe I was the first time I descended into Rapture!
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« Reply #1213 on: April 15, 2015, 06:42:40 AM »
My girlfriend has a wii, I should hook it up and try Super Mario out. With the exception of Mario 64 I have never played a Mario game outside of the NES.

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« Reply #1214 on: April 15, 2015, 06:53:04 AM »
My girlfriend has a wii, I should hook it up and try Super Mario out. With the exception of Mario 64 I have never played a Mario game outside of the NES.

Same for me.  My brothers friend left his Wii U at my house (as a permanent place to keep it), maybe I should start playing it.

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« Reply #1215 on: April 15, 2015, 11:28:06 AM »
2 really great games here. I played every little bit out of SMG2, even the 242nd star. Also loved Okami for this really beautiful graphics mainly, but the game itself was top-class too.

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« Reply #1216 on: April 15, 2015, 01:15:21 PM »
Hmm...I though that, aside from that bullshit final star, the entirety of Galaxy 2 was fairly easy. Though that does not take away from it, as it and the first Galaxy are tied for my favorite Mario game.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1217 on: April 18, 2015, 03:46:49 PM »
Sorry people for delaying this :blush I haven't been feeling well these days, emotionally, but that shouldn't stop me from finishing the list. So, here we go. The last update before entering the top 10. Now's when shit gets real.




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Pokemon Fire Red
2004


What can I say? I love Pokemon. Started with the third gen and played the hell out of it. And tried the older games, but those b&w graphics didn't help me, and I was quickly put off. Turned out, Nintendo made a remake of the first two titles for GBA, and got those.

A new love was born for each one that had died.

One of the things I love about the Pokemon games is how big they are, and the crazy amount of replayability - just trying to catch all the Pokemon available is a titanic effort. But first, you have to get through a gigantic map, get all the 8 medals, and fight against the League leaders. And from there, depending on the game, you could just try to get 'em all, or go to a special place full of near-to-impossible rivals. It's a lot of fun.

Although it has little to do with this title, I wanna say the first 3 generations of Pokemon are the best, in terms of design. Yes, they have some ugly creatures, but they are in a smaller proportion compared with the last generations. There are some great designs on the new games (like the legendaries on the 4th gen, or Talonflame, Pangoro, and Ylveltal from X&Y ), but ultimately, I feel like they're more based on recycled ideas rather than inspired models.

I still have to play gen 4 though - Pearl, Diamond, or Platinum? Or maybe HG & SS?


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The Missadventures of Tron Bonne
2000

I love the MegaMan Legends series. It's almost a spin-off of the franchise, featuring a whole new world, characters, and gameplay. Some fans of the classic titles were a bit confused with these games. But I loved them.

Although not technically speaking, I consider it a trilogy, with this one being a weird spin-off based on the villains from the two other games and their missions to get money and eventually find the Mother Lode: the biggest treasure ever - a legend that both diggers and pirates have believed for decades, but hasn't been found.

And because the character *are* pirates, the missions consist on attacking cities and assaulting banks, digging old ruins full of enemies, or stealing containers from harbours in a puzzle gameplay (?). But there's also a backstory.

The Bonne family has discovered some ruins in the desert that hide a big treasure. But they're surprised to see not a guardian robot, but one of their "allies" (if such thing exits among pirates, huh). And Mr Teasel Bonne loses the fight, and it's kidnapped. So it's Tron's duty, his sister, to rescue him. The kidnappers ask for a big reward though, and then it's when Tron has to get the money.

This is one of the funniest games I've ever played - just watch the adorable Servbots, and their stupid actions while wearing this big smile all the time. The humour, the ironic situations, beating cows and cops alike - nobody should *ever* get bored playing this title.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1218 on: April 19, 2015, 06:17:08 AM »
I think what makes the first two gens of Pokemon so great to me, was that most (if not all) Pokemon looked unique and awesome. That feeling started to dip a bit with Gen 3 (which still had some cool Pokemon), and by the time we got to Gen 4 and then Gen 5, it's like 1 out of 10 Pokemon looked good, rather than 9 out of 10 with the first gens.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1219 on: April 19, 2015, 07:54:03 AM »
^Disagreed.

Every generation had it's cool and not-so-cool Pokemon. In particular, people like to overlook with nostalgia-lens how silly and uncreative some of the first gen Pokemon were in retrospect, and I love the first gen to death. Honestly, in terms of designs, the second gen probably had some of the most uninspired.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1220 on: April 19, 2015, 06:26:16 PM »
i think the only generation where i'm overall more positive than negative to the designs is gen 3 tbh, and that gen still has some pretty cruddy ones.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1221 on: April 20, 2015, 05:54:45 AM »
^Disagreed.

Every generation had it's cool and not-so-cool Pokemon. In particular, people like to overlook with nostalgia-lens how silly and uncreative some of the first gen Pokemon were in retrospect, and I love the first gen to death. Honestly, in terms of designs, the second gen probably had some of the most uninspired.

I think for me, most of it was the fact that the first two gens still felt kinda original. Sure, designs like Rattata or Pidgey weren't exactly unique, it was basically "oh look its a bird" or "look its a rat", but by the time the latter Gens arrived, it felt like they started running out of ideas. Like, "oh.. another normal type bird pokemon".

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1222 on: April 20, 2015, 06:19:07 AM »
^Disagreed.

Every generation had it's cool and not-so-cool Pokemon. In particular, people like to overlook with nostalgia-lens how silly and uncreative some of the first gen Pokemon were in retrospect, and I love the first gen to death. Honestly, in terms of designs, the second gen probably had some of the most uninspired.

Voltorb, Pidget, Ekans, Staryu, etc..

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1223 on: April 20, 2015, 12:54:20 PM »
^Disagreed.

Every generation had it's cool and not-so-cool Pokemon. In particular, people like to overlook with nostalgia-lens how silly and uncreative some of the first gen Pokemon were in retrospect, and I love the first gen to death. Honestly, in terms of designs, the second gen probably had some of the most uninspired.

I think for me, most of it was the fact that the first two gens still felt kinda original. Sure, designs like Rattata or Pidgey weren't exactly unique, it was basically "oh look its a bird" or "look its a rat", but by the time the latter Gens arrived, it felt like they started running out of ideas. Like, "oh.. another normal type bird pokemon".

Honestly, every gen has had its Pokemon that felt like they're running out of ideas.

Gen 1: Dugtrio is literally just three Digletts with frowny-faces. Weezing is a larger Koffing with a conjoined twin. Muk is just a larger Grimer. Magenton is just three Magnemites put together.

I feel like the designs felt more "original" simply because they were the first ones. I could totally see Gen 1 getting a lot more shit if its designs were from a later gen.

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Re: The Top 25 Video Games Thread! v. Another controversial list... (pg. 34)
« Reply #1224 on: April 21, 2015, 09:35:14 PM »
Honorable mention


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Mario Party 64
1999

Mario is everywhere. It wasn't enough to be gaming's most iconic character - he had to appear in half of Nintendo's catalogue, spanning more than 100 games and guest spots.

"What about a board game, featuring Mario and other characters?" a directive must have told Miyamoto. "Neh, it wouldn't work", he surely replied, and continued: "But... what if we make it a video game, and include some silly minigames?". The directive thought it for a while, and looked at him in the face, with a smile blossoming on his lips, replied: "That's why you're our best designer". "Of course I am". And Shigeru got out of the room like a boss - as always.

On a real note, Mario Party is about gathering lots of points during a set amount of rounds (10 or so), and the one with more points, well, wins (don't you say). But on each player's turn -because this game is boring as hell on single mode- a die is rolled, and the character moves as spaces as the dice indicates. Some spaces have nothing, but some, can trigger special minigames.

These little games are the core of Mario Party. With 56 different ones, you have to either collect as many coins as you can, or get rid of the other players off tan unstable platform, or win a race, or avoid lava, among some of the less-crazy stuff. Seriously, there's a lot of fun here, both for young and adults.

With more than sequels, I can only say the series has just improved and expanded itself with each release. But I'll love the first one more because it's the only one I really owned.