Mister Gold's Top 50 Albums - "Here at the End of All Things"

[nicmos]

For me, the moment I hear a growl, the song is officially over.

sadly, this is almost true for me too.  it's only rare cases where I can deal with it.

I sorta wished I liked it because I think there's a lot of great music out there that it's hard for me to enjoy.

[Mister Gold]

For me, the moment I hear a growl, the song is officially over.

sadly, this is almost true for me too.  it's only rare cases where I can deal with it.

I sorta wished I liked it because I think there's a lot of great music out there that it's hard for me to enjoy.

I can be like that too, but as I've said, Death was the band that started getting me to be more open to listening to that type of vocal style.

[ThatOneGuy2112]

Ahh, Death. Another band I really need to get into. I've heard nothing but praise for Symbolic and TSOP. Will check out Symbolic shortly thanks to this.

For me, the moment I hear a growl, the song is officially over.

I used to absolutely loathe any and all growls/screams. It might have been Opeth and Agalloch at the same time that really warmed me up to them and now I tolerate them much more, and even love it if done right.

[Scorpion]

The Sound of Perseverance is the best them, but pretty much every other Death album occupies #2 simultaneously, so it's hard to argue with that selection.

Well, except for Scream Bloody Gore. Never really got into that one - it's good, but nowhere near the brilliance of the rest of Death's discography.

[Mister Gold]

Ahh, Death. Another band I really need to get into. I've heard nothing but praise for Symbolic and TSOP. Will check out Symbolic shortly thanks to this.

The Sound of Perseverance is the best them, but pretty much every other Death album occupies #2 simultaneously, so it's hard to argue with that selection.

Well, except for Scream Bloody Gore. Never really got into that one - it's good, but nowhere near the brilliance of the rest of Death's discography.

I absolutely love TSoP too. But lately I've just fallen for Human and Symbolic just a tad bit more.

[FlyingBIZKIT]

Thanks to _floyd, I heard Symbolic for the first time a few days ago. Spectacular stuff!

[TAC]

For me, the moment I hear a growl, the song is officially over.

Yup. I have tried Death. Have a couple of Discs, too. I can't get past a song or too. Too bad, because the music is KILLER.

[bl5150]

Who woulda thunk ?  - Death kills 

[TAC]

4. King Diamond - "Them" (1988)

I also prefer this to Abigail. His falsettos don't hurt my ears. They are unbearable on Abigail. And I agree with what Mr G. said about the band. Them is filled with incredible music.

To think I walked out of a KD show on this tour before he took the stage!

I'm a bit of a casual KD fan and I need to be in the mood for his vocal style. 

I'm in the same boat. Didn't jump into KD till about 4-5 years ago. I find his last two releases (The Puppet Master and Give Me Your Soul...Please) much more enjoyable. They are primarily sung in his lower register and the falsettos are kept to a minimum.

[bl5150]

. I find his last two releases (The Puppet Master and Give Me Your Soul...Please) much more enjoyable. They are primarily sung in his lower register and the falsettos are kept to a minimum.

Thanks  - will check them out.

[TAC]

. I find his last two releases (The Puppet Master and Give Me Your Soul...Please) much more enjoyable. They are primarily sung in his lower register and the falsettos are kept to a minimum.

Thanks  - will check them out.

This is the song that ultimately made me go back and really check out King Diamond.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tl-N9FJMpY

I avoided him like the plague from the mid 80's on.

[TAC]

I would also like to say that Them has the music Savatage seemed to be shooting for, but just didn't have the chops to pull off.

[bl5150]

Haha .........you've said something like that to me before about Savatage not having the chops and I think my response was something like 




 

[TAC]

Haha .........you've said something like that to me before about Savatage not having the chops and I think my response was something like 




 

Hall Of The Mountain King is just OK, but like with Streets and Guitter Ballet, I admire the concepts and effort and all, but I come away from those albums feeling like they could be soooo much better. Savatage was visionary, I'll give them that. I just don't think they were very good.

Literally the most disappointing band I've seen live, hence my Possessed Barny comment.

[bl5150]

I can't comment on the live angle (although I've heard plenty say they were amazing live..........I can imagine Jon could be hit and miss) but the concept of them being no good during the HoTMK to Streets era and not up to playing King Diamond is not computing with me    We agree on most things so I'll put this down to a disturbance in the force.

[TAC]

  We agree on most things so I'll put this down to a disturbance in the force.

Apparently someone fucked with the flux capacitor 30 years ago! 

[Mister Gold]

I would also like to say that Them has the music Savatage seemed to be shooting for, but just didn't have the chops to pull off.

While I disagree that Savatage didn't have the chops to pull that sort of music off, I will agree that "Them" is pretty close to my ideal Savatage album.

[Lowdz]

Haha .........you've said something like that to me before about Savatage not having the chops and I think my response was something like 




 

Hall Of The Mountain King is just OK, but like with Streets and Guitter Ballet, I admire the concepts and effort and all, but I come away from those albums feeling like they could be soooo much better. Savatage was visionary, I'll give them that. I just don't think they were very good.

Literally the most disappointing band I've seen live, hence my Possessed Barny comment.

I guess I felt the same when I bought GB, my first Savatage album. I felt the songs were there, the players were excellent but Jon's vocals weren't up to the job of the songs he was writing. Criss could easily play KD stuff.

Them is a great album, probably my favourite KD album with Abigail - my first KD album.

[Mister Gold]

Haha .........you've said something like that to me before about Savatage not having the chops and I think my response was something like 

 

Hall Of The Mountain King is just OK, but like with Streets and Guitter Ballet, I admire the concepts and effort and all, but I come away from those albums feeling like they could be soooo much better. Savatage was visionary, I'll give them that. I just don't think they were very good.

Literally the most disappointing band I've seen live, hence my Possessed Barny comment.

I guess I felt the same when I bought GB, my first Savatage album. I felt the songs were there, the players were excellent but Jon's vocals weren't up to the job of the songs he was writing. Criss could easily play KD stuff.

Them is a great album, probably my favourite KD album with Abigail - my first KD album.

The two are definitely my favorite KD albums.

[Mister Gold]

2. Bruce Dickinson - The Chemical Wedding (1998)

I am amazed that no one guessed that this album was going to be in my Top 5. This album is the greatest album Iron Maiden never made. If you were to replace Bruce’s name with the Iron Maiden logo, this album would be to Maiden what Painkiller was to Judas Priest. It is the quintessential metal album. It is incredibly heavy, yet it’s also incredibly melodic. It’s also very dense in conceptual meaning, having been inspired by the works of William Blake.

I could write a very big essay about why I love this album. In fact, I probably should.

But I won't, or at least, not today. Because right now, more people need to check this album out and listen to its splendor. If you've never had the chance to listen to this album or put it off because of the notion that a Bruce solo album is inferior to Iron Maiden, prepare yourselves for a rude awakening and go listen to this album right now.

The Book of Thel is opening...

Favorite Track: The whole thing, but The Book of Thel, The Alchemist, Jerusalem and Gates of Urizen are particular highlights.

[wolfking]

My number 1!!

It's perfect, absolutely perfect.  Fucking blew my mind the first time I heard it.  I still remember that evening.

[ThatOneGuy2112]

I'd still say I prefer Powerslave, but this one comes very close behind. A stellar choice.

[Mister Gold]

My number 1!!

It's perfect, absolutely perfect.  Fucking blew my mind the first time I heard it.  I still remember that evening.

In many ways, this is still my number 1 too. But considering my number 1 already consists of 2 Fates Warning albums (one of which will be excluded from the official list), 1 Mastodon album and 1 Voivod album, I felt it'd be best to lighten the load a wee bit. It was nigh impossible to bring myself to do it to TCW though. It knows where it is in spirit though.

I'd still say I prefer Powerslave, but this one comes very close behind. A stellar choice.

Thanks!

[jingle.boy]

I tried this album when it topped Kade's list.  It was ok, but I certainly wasn't wow'd by it.

For me, the moment I hear a growl, the song is officially over.

sadly, this is almost true for me too.  it's only rare cases where I can deal with it.

I sorta wished I liked it because I think there's a lot of great music out there that it's hard for me to enjoy.

Ditto.

[wolfking]

I tried this album when it topped Kade's list.  It was ok, but I certainly wasn't wow'd by it.

For me, the moment I hear a growl, the song is officially over.

sadly, this is almost true for me too.  it's only rare cases where I can deal with it.

I sorta wished I liked it because I think there's a lot of great music out there that it's hard for me to enjoy.

Ditto.

I still say to all you guys, give it time and take small doses at a time.  I remember I was in the same boat as you guys when it came to growls.  I seemed to listen to small pieces at different times until I realised that the growls were fucking awesome.  I think Soilwork were the band that made me fall in love with that type of vocal delivery. 

[jingle.boy]

^ I dunno man. There's enough awesome non-growl stuff I'm still discovering, I'm not inclined to 'give it time'. The same could be said of other genres. I know whats I like, and I'm happy to stay in my lane.

 

[bl5150]

I wasn't too fussed over The Chemical Wedding .........preferred Accident......

Book of Thel, Gates of Urizen (in your faves) and Return Of The King were tracks I enjoyed but I found the rest a bit average.  But I'm just a casual Maiden fan too so I don't count 

[jjrock88]

^ I dunno man. There's enough awesome non-growl stuff I'm still discovering, I'm not inclined to 'give it time'. The same could be said of other genres. I know whats I like, and I'm happy to stay in my lane.

 

Me too.  I'm stuck in my lane too.

Outstanding choice with Chemical Wedding.  Do you guys have the re-released version of it?  I think that version just takes a perfect metal album to the next level.  "Real World" was a great bonus track.

[Mister Gold]

^ I dunno man. There's enough awesome non-growl stuff I'm still discovering, I'm not inclined to 'give it time'. The same could be said of other genres. I know whats I like, and I'm happy to stay in my lane.

 

Me too.  I'm stuck in my lane too.

Outstanding choice with Chemical Wedding.  Do you guys have the re-released version of it?  I think that version just takes a perfect metal album to the next level.  "Real World" was a great bonus track.

I do! Completely agreed about Real World, though Return of the King is also brilliant too. Hell, I even enjoy Confeos too.

[TAC]

Chemical Wedding = Great Album

[Lowdz]

^ I dunno man. There's enough awesome non-growl stuff I'm still discovering, I'm not inclined to 'give it time'. The same could be said of other genres. I know whats I like, and I'm happy to stay in my lane.

 

Me too.  I'm stuck in my lane too.

Outstanding choice with Chemical Wedding.  Do you guys have the re-released version of it?  I think that version just takes a perfect metal album to the next level.  "Real World" was a great bonus track.

I have to say I've enjoyed some music recently with some growls (Persefone, Insomnium, JLB, Death's Sound Of Perseverence - though that's not exactly growling). Its really not my thing and if the same music had a typically metal vocal I would enjoy it even more, and I don't see that I'll ever be "into" that style.

Chemical Wedding, like most of  bruce's solo stuff, passed me by in the day. I loved early Maiden but had fallen out of love with them before Bruce left so had no  real interest in pursuing Bruce's stuff. At Wolfie's recommendation I have listened to CW and it was decent. I'd take Balls to Picasso and Tyranny Of Souls ove rit, and maybe AoB too. Have't been back to it though since that first listen.

[jjrock88]

Lowdz, only one listen to Chemical Wedding?  You need to go back for a few more for sure.

[nicmos]

^ I dunno man. There's enough awesome non-growl stuff I'm still discovering, I'm not inclined to 'give it time'. The same could be said of other genres. I know whats I like, and I'm happy to stay in my lane.

 

so you would say that learning to like growling vocals is not inevitabre? 

EDIT: I know I'm goin' back several pages, but I'm really digging Painkiller.  thanks for putting that one on your list.

[jingle.boy]

^ no, definitely not inevitabre. Like Lowdz, I can take appropriate doses of them, but I'm not apt to dive head first into a band/album that's littered with them.

[Scorpion]

Chemical Wedding is the tits