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Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« on: April 27, 2014, 06:28:52 AM »
I'm not a huge fan of these 5 DT albums (Octavarium, Systematic Chaos, Black Clouds & Silver Linings and, Dramatic Turn of Events & Dream Theater) and i think i'm not the only one here, so....let's try a "game"...if you could choose some tracks to create just ONE perfect album, which would you choose?

that's my "perfect" tracklist:

1 Octavarium (maybe with shorter intro)
2 The Looking Glass
3 The Best of Times
4 The Dark Eternal Night
5 Breaking All Illusions
6 Along for the Ride
7 The Ministry of Lost Souls (maybe a bit shorter than the actual lenght)

about 70 minutes of a wonderful record  :tup

now it's your turn! :P (this could be also made for albums like SFAM, 6DOIT & TOT....which someone here almost dislike, as i read in various topics)

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2014, 07:02:48 AM »
This is extraordinarily hard for me, because I actually really love those albums, especially Octavarium and Black Clouds & Silver Linings. I have six songs from those albums in my top 10: The Bigger Picture, Far From Heaven, A Nightmare to Remember, The Count of Tuscany, Octavarium and Breaking All Illusions. And those all won't fit on one disc. My single disc best of then would be something like:

1. A Nightmare to Remember (16:10)
2. The Count of Tuscany (19:16)
3. Far From Heaven (3:56)
4. Breaking All Illusions (12:26)
5. Octavarium (24:00)

Total: 75:48

If you'll indulge me for a minute to make a double album, I can really have fun with this...

The bigger picture, it, ministry, these walls, OTBOA, BTS, SS

Disc One: The Dark Side
1. A Nightmare to Remember (16:10)
2. On the Backs of Angels (8:43)
3. The Count of Tuscany (19:16)
4. Sacrificed Sons (10:43)
5. Illumination Theory (22:17)

Total Disc One: 77:09

Disc Two: The Light Side
1. These Walls (7:00)
2. The Ministry of Lost Souls (14:57)
3. The Bigger Picture (7:40)
4. Far From Heaven (3:56)
5. Breaking All Illusions (12:26)
6. Beneath the Surface (5:26)
7. Octavarium (24:00)

Total Disc Two: 75:25

Yeah, that seems good. That was really enjoyable to make! Good thread, even if a difficult one for those of us who truly do love some of these albums!
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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2014, 07:12:35 AM »
Thank you ;) I have quite the same problem, 'cause i really like DT12, but i know that many people in this forum doesn't, so i tried to make this topic "opened" for almost everyone by putting also that record in, altought it made things more difficult for me :P

in my "perfect" one, i tried to make just 1 cd, and i hat to "cut" Panic Attack, The Bigger Picture and maybe Outcry...but i think i've made the "right choice"...and, as far as i can see, we agree on some songs ;)

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2014, 08:20:05 AM »
This is going to be tough. I really enjoy all of these albums

1) False Awakening Suite (2:42)
2) Outcry (11:32)
3) The Bigger Picture (7:39)
4) Breaking All Illusions (12:24)
5) These Walls (7:35)
6) Sacrificed Sons (10:41)
7) Octavarium (23:57)

Total: 1:15:00 (I won't get too exact)

Now, if I stole 425's idea about the double album:

Disk 1)
1) False Awakening Suite (2:42)
2) The Ministry Of Lost Souls (14:55)
3) These Walls (7:35)
4) Outcry (11:23)
5) Sacrificed Sons (10:41)
6) Breaking All Illusions (12:24)
7) The Count Of Tuscany (19:18)
Disk 1 total: 1:18:00

Disk 2)
1) In The Presence Of Enemies Pt 1 (9:00)
2) The Bigger Picture (7:39)
3) Panic Attack (8:12)
4) Illumination Theory (22:16)
5) Octavarium (23:57)
Total: 1:10:00

This is an interesting thread idea

EDIT: fixed a parenthese
« Last Edit: April 27, 2014, 11:04:39 AM by Sir Walrus Cauliflower »
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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2014, 08:29:57 AM »
I'd have trouble even narrowing down a 8V/SC/BCASL compilation to under 2 hours, and I'm fine with those albums, so I'll just leave those as is, and come up with a single disc ADTOE/DT12.

A Dream Theater of Events-

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Lost Not Forgotten
This is the Life
The Looking Glass
Enigma Machine
Bridges in the Sky
Surrender to Reason
Illumination Theory

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2014, 09:38:19 AM »
I'd have to give 8V it's own disc, because that is my #1 DT album, and darn near perfect to my ears.

But I could easily make a disc out of the middle three...   Probably go something like this.

A Nightmare to Remember
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Lost Not Forgotten
This is the Life
Bridges in the Sky
The Dark Eternal Night
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath the Surface
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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2014, 10:48:39 AM »
The Root of All Evil
Repentance
The Ministry of Lost Souls
Far From Heaven
Breaking All Illusions
Octavarium

2 songs each from the 3 better albums here, ignoring the other two, mmk mmk

Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Lost Not Forgotten
The Dark Eternal Night
We must have entirely different tastes since all three of these are in my bottom 5  :rollin

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2014, 10:50:36 AM »
I'm not a huge fan of these 5 DT albums (Octavarium, Systematic Chaos, Black Clouds & Silver Linings and, Dramatic Turn of Events & Dream Theater) and i think i'm not the only one here, so....let's try a "game"...if you could choose some tracks to create just ONE perfect album, which would you choose?

that's my "perfect" tracklist:

1. The Root of All Evil
2. The Answer Lies Within
3. These Walls
4. I Walk Beside You
5. Panic Attack
6. Never Enough
7. Sacrificed Sons
8. Octavarium.

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2014, 11:14:47 AM »
I'm not a huge fan of these 5 DT albums (Octavarium, Systematic Chaos, Black Clouds & Silver Linings and, Dramatic Turn of Events & Dream Theater) and i think i'm not the only one here, so....let's try a "game"...if you could choose some tracks to create just ONE perfect album, which would you choose?

that's my "perfect" tracklist:

1. The Root of All Evil
2. The Answer Lies Within
3. These Walls
4. I Walk Beside You
5. Panic Attack
6. Never Enough
7. Sacrificed Sons
8. Octavarium.

THIS is actually the correct answer...
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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2014, 11:41:34 AM »
If you could create the perfect album using only the 5th track from each of these albums in chronological order, what would it be?

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2014, 11:46:05 AM »
If you could create the perfect album using only the 5th track from each of these albums in chronological order, what would it be?

That's impossible, Repentance would be on it.
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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2014, 12:08:23 PM »
I'm pretty sure these would fit on a single disc:

Bridges in the Sky
These Walls
Behind the Veil
The Root of All Evil
The Bigger Picture
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath the Surface
The Count of Tuscany

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2014, 12:14:23 PM »
If you could create the perfect album using only the 5th track from each of these albums in chronological order, what would it be?

That's impossible, Repentance would be on it.
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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2014, 01:49:59 PM »
If you could create the perfect album using only the 5th track from each of these albums in chronological order, what would it be?

That's impossible, Repentance would be on it.

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2014, 04:18:40 PM »
False Awakening Suite
The Ministry Of Lost Souls
A Nightmare To Remember
Behind The Veil
Bridges In The Sky
Octavarium

With some clever seguing and cross-fades, this would be one solid album.

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2014, 05:44:10 PM »

A Nightmare to Remember
Constant Motion
Sacrificed Sons
Lost Not Forgotten
The Dark Eternal Night
The Count of Tuscany
Bridges in the Sky
Behind the Veil
Octavarium

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2014, 09:54:26 PM »
If I were to make one based solely on my favourite songs between these 5, Octavarium and Dream Theater would take up at least 90% of the tracklist, so I will try and make one that has at least something from each album, and has a proper flow.

Disc One:

1) False Awakening Suite
2) Panic Attack
3) Forsaken
4) Enigma Machine
5) Repentance
6) The Answer Lies Within
7) The Dark Eternal Night
8) Beneath the Surface
9) Illumination Theory

1:15:23

Disc Two:

1) Bridges in the Sky
2) The Looking Glass
3) Behind the Veil
4) Lost Not Forgotten
5) The Bigger Picture
6) The Shattered Fortress
7) Octavarium

1:17:26

TOTAL: 2:32:49

It's a bit weird with both 8VM and IT, but I couldn't leave them out.

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2014, 10:34:52 PM »
If you could create the perfect album using only the 5th track from each of these albums in chronological order, what would it be?

That's impossible, Repentance would be on it.
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I'll adapt the idea of doing a one disc then a 2 disc version.

one disc:

1. Bridges in the Sky
2. The Enemy Inside
3. These Walls (without outro designed to segue into IWBY)
4. The Bigger Picture
5. Behind the Veil
6. The Root of All Evil
7. Surrender to Reason
8. Octavarium
That was designed more for practicality and to make it flow properly, but I do love all those songs. If I made a one disc album of my favorites from the list without a thought about how it'd flow it'd be 4 songs to fit the 80 min time slot and wouldn't make any sense (BitS, IT, 8VM and TCoT)

2 Disc version:

Disc 1:
1. Bridges in the Sky
2. The Enemy Inside
3. These Walls (again without the outro)
4. Enigma Machine
5. The Shattered Fortress
6. Far From Heaven
7. Breaking All Illusions
8. Beneath the Surface
9. The Count of Tuscany

Disc 2:
1. Octavarium
2. Outcry
3. Behind the Veil
4. Surrender to Reason
5. In the Presence of Enemies Pt. 1
6. Illumination Theory

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2014, 12:17:47 AM »
I'm gonna try to do this one without reading anyone else's for influences  :lol

The Enemy Inside
Lost Not Forgotten
Repentance (without the 3 minute long "aaaah" section that makes the song way too long)
Surrender To Reason
A Nightmare to Remember
Far From Heaven
Octavarium

Trying to keep it balanced while trying to represent all albums at least a bit (I know Repentance might not seem the best representation for SC but it does work well in this context). It's 75 minutes long, which is a bit long but there's a ANTR and 8VM in there, so nothing less could be expected. It still is 7 songs long, which is fairly good.

OTBOA, BITS, FFH, BAI, LNF, TITL, Outcry, BTS, FAS, TEI, TLG, EM, TBP, BTV, STR, AFTR, IT, TCOT, Wither, ANTR, TBOT, TSF, ITPOE, Repentance, TDEN, TMoLS, 8VM, TROAE, TW

If I had to do a two CDs version it would be like this:

This one looks weird because of how many Th's there are at the beginning of the song names, but oh well  :lol

Surrender To Reason
Bridges in the Sky
The Enemy Inside
This is the Life
The Dark Eternal Night
Lost Not Forgotten
The Bigger Picture

The Root of All Evil
The Looking Glass
Wither
On the Backs of Angels
Outcry
Illumination Theory

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2014, 09:19:43 AM »
My 2LP vision that includes nothing from Systematic Chaos or Black Clouds And Silver Linings.

Side 1(~24 minutes):
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
Lost Not Forgotten

Side 2(~17 minutes):
Breaking All Illusions
Along For The Ride

Side 3(24 minutes)
Octavarium

Side 4(~22 minutes):
Illumination Theory
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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2014, 05:55:39 PM »
1. The Enemy Inside
2. These Walls
3. The Dark Eternal Night
4. Surrender to Reason
5. Bridges in the Sky
6. The Root of All Evil
7. Breaking All Illusions
8. The Count of Tuscany

Not sure about the flow on that one. I'd probably leave ADTOE intact, though, and go with something like this:

1. The Enemy Inside
2. These Walls
3. The Dark Eternal Night
4. Surrender to Reason
5. The Root of All Evil
6. The Bigger Picture
7. Sacrificed Sons
8. The Count of Tuscany

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2014, 09:44:45 AM »
Hmmm. Mostly it would be a combination of the last 2 albums.

1. Illumination Theory
2. Lost Not Forgotten
3. This is the Life
4. Constant Motion
5. Breaking All Illusions
6. Octavarium

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2014, 09:57:28 AM »
If I took my two favourite songs from the past 5 albums :

1.Sacrificed Sons
2.Octavarium
3.The Dark Eternal Night
4.Ministry of Lost Souls.
5.The Best Of Times
6.The Count of Tuscany
7.This is The Life
8.Bridges In The Sky
9.The Bigger Picture
10.Illumination Theory.

 Roughly 2 hours and 25 minutes.

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Re: Systematic Clouds of 8 Dream Events
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2014, 10:18:39 AM »
I made one for the Meta-Album, since I've been listening to the albums on it a lot less recently (because I spend most of the time listening to the newer or older material) that lasts 88 minutes. It has a bunch of great songs from that period that I particularly like from each album and it's ordered pretty well, I think:

Endless Sacrifice
Blind Faith
The Root of All Evil
Solitary Shell
Vacant
Stream of Consciousness
Fatal Tragedy
The Spirit Carries On
Octavarium