The Queen Thread

[ReaperKK]

Thanks for sharing.

The concert as a whole was great, but somehow that trailer didn't do much for me. 

yea, it seemed very bland and quickly put together.

[rumborak]

That's too bad; he would've been great.  Also, I'm not sure how you'd do a biopic of Freddie and not at least venture into PG-13 material.  They might be able to stay this side of R, but if they want to be even halfway realistic and honest about Freddie's lifestyle off stage, it's not going to be a squeaky-clean movie.

They would have to essentially leave out everything from the Hot Space era.

[TheGreatPretender]

That's too bad; he would've been great.  Also, I'm not sure how you'd do a biopic of Freddie and not at least venture into PG-13 material.  They might be able to stay this side of R, but if they want to be even halfway realistic and honest about Freddie's lifestyle off stage, it's not going to be a squeaky-clean movie.

It depends on how graphic they'd want to get about it though. I don't think a mere suggestion of drugs and debauchery constitutes a higher than PG rating. And frankly, I don't think I'd want to see a re-enactment of what actually went down. I know Sacha Cohen isn't a stranger to rolling around with naked men, but it's not exactly something I enjoy watching.

[Kotowboy]

Sacha Baron Cohen is off this film I hear. . .


That's a shame if true as he resembles Freddie quite a bit...

[Kotowboy]

Here's something :

How is it that you can say you like Queen and everyone goes " Ah Yes ! Great Band ! "

But if you mention Pet Shop Boys or Erasure - People look at you weird and go " but the singer is gay ! "

So it's ok if it's rock music but not electronic/pop music ?

What's the problem ? Andy Bell has a great voice and VInce Clarke is a genius on the synths.

[ReaperKK]

Here's something :

How is it that you can say you like Queen and everyone goes " Ah Yes ! Great Band ! "

But if you mention Pet Shop Boys or Erasure - People look at you weird and go " but the singer is gay ! "

So it's ok if it's rock music but not electronic/pop music ?

What's the problem ? Andy Bell has a great voice and VInce Clarke is a genius on the synths.

It might be just me but I've never heard anyone saying anything about the singer being gay in Pet Shop boys or Erasure.

[KevShmev]

Here's something :

How is it that you can say you like Queen and everyone goes " Ah Yes ! Great Band ! "

But if you mention Pet Shop Boys or Erasure - People look at you weird and go " but the singer is gay ! "

So it's ok if it's rock music but not electronic/pop music ?

What's the problem ? Andy Bell has a great voice and VInce Clarke is a genius on the synths.

It might be just me but I've never heard anyone saying anything about the singer being gay in Pet Shop boys or Erasure.

It's just you, because (and I mean this in a non-offensive way) the lead singer in Erasure is one of the biggest flamers in the history of music.   My brother was a big fan of theirs back in the 80s, and I remember him buying the one live video of theirs and his jaw dropping when he saw how the guy acted on stage.  Let's just say that he left no doubt as to what his sexual orientation was.  Not that there's anything wrong with that. #seinfeld

But I agree with Kotowboy's general point.  I think it is probably cause music like Queen or Judas Priest is seen as manly rock, while synth pop is seen as more girly, so it becomes easy (for some) to make fun of guys for listening to "girly" music that is fronted by a homosexual.  Stupid?  Absolutely.  But there is a lot of stupidity out there.

[Kotowboy]

you don't have to be a fan of how someone acts on stage to enjoy their music.

Plus Vince is a nice guy - he always replies to me on Twitter. I recorded a rock cover of an Erasure song and he said he wanted to hear it and then he said that he loved it.

[TheGreatPretender]

Here's something :

How is it that you can say you like Queen and everyone goes " Ah Yes ! Great Band ! "

But if you mention Pet Shop Boys or Erasure - People look at you weird and go " but the singer is gay ! "

So it's ok if it's rock music but not electronic/pop music ?

What's the problem ? Andy Bell has a great voice and VInce Clarke is a genius on the synths.

While I don't think people say that anymore... When they did, I imagine it was mostly because... I mean, regardless of how good Pet Show Boys or Erasure are... They're no freakin' Queen!

To be fair, I don't hear people saying, "Yeah, but the singer is gay," about Judas Priest either.

[rumborak]

I've only ever heard that about the singer of Erasure. And of course Jimmy Somerville.
Freddie was always flamboyant, but more in a David Bowie sort of way.

[King Postwhore]

Simple.  Queen made rock music and the people you knew like that style over the 80's synth pop.  People are weird like that.

[Azyiu]

Gay or not, I LOVE the Pet Shop Boys!    Love Comes Quickly is still one of my all-time fav songs, among other by tPSB.

[Kotowboy]

I'm not a huge fan. I always thought they were a bit dull compared to Erasure who were obviously a lot more flamboyant.

I always thought Erasure had the catchier songs and I love what Vince does on the synths. All the cool sounds he put in.

But I did have the " Very " album on CD back in the day with the weird embossed orange box.

[ytserush]

It was always about the music for me. I'd take Queen over that stuff any day of the week. (I'd also take Joe Jackson, and The Fixx and The Alarm and Talk Talk too.)

[ReaperKK]

OT but the acoustic version of "Stand Of Fall" by The Fixx is godly.

[King Postwhore]

Just saw The Fixx in April.  they were killer live.

[ytserush]

OT but the acoustic version of "Stand Of Fall" by The Fixx is godly.

It's all good to me.

I don't have the new album yet (well I guess it really isn't new any more) but I've got everything else including the first Cy Curnin solo album.

Unfortunately I missed them live this year not knowing they were out on the road.  I guess we should probably find The Fixx thread, huh?

[Outcrier]

Here's something :

How is it that you can say you like Queen and everyone goes " Ah Yes ! Great Band ! "

But if you mention Pet Shop Boys or Erasure - People look at you weird and go " but the singer is gay ! "

So it's ok if it's rock music but not electronic/pop music ?

What's the problem ? Andy Bell has a great voice and VInce Clarke is a genius on the synths.

Generally, people who say this didn't ever listened to real electronic music (pretty much like hip-hop, they only know the sh*t that plays on the radio)...
Perhaps they would change their opinions after listening to Violator, Selected Ambients or, in the case of Pet Shop Boys, Behaviour...

[rumborak]

Listened to some Queen on Google Play the other day, and the main picture they used caused me to create this meme:

[Kotowboy]

Always thought there was a Lars Ulrich resemblance in Roger Taylor...

[chrisbDTM]

Just bought some tickets to see Queen w/ Adam Lambert at the Mohegan Sun Arena in July


I can't wait to see Brian May live. PSYCHED

[jammindude]

Here's something :

How is it that you can say you like Queen and everyone goes " Ah Yes ! Great Band ! "

But if you mention Pet Shop Boys or Erasure - People look at you weird and go " but the singer is gay ! "

So it's ok if it's rock music but not electronic/pop music ?

What's the problem ? Andy Bell has a great voice and VInce Clarke is a genius on the synths.

I can't believe I never saw this...but I know the reason.   

It doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think that it comes down to being perceived as being "studly" vs. being perceived as "femmy".     It's cool when Rob Halford rides out on his Harley with leather and studs....maybe wouldn't have gone over as well if it was a Mazda and a pink tu-tu. 

I'm not saying that The Pet Shop boys are *THAT* femmy...but they are closer to the latter than the former. 

[Orbert]

I know it's bordering on sexism (or homosexism or whatever you call it), or is probably over the line actually, but yeah, that's pretty much it.  To most people, especially in rock and roll, guys should act like guys.  Freddie was a fucking stud.  Rob Halford is a fucking stud.  What they did behind closed doors, and with whom, didn't much matter as long as they rocked out and were macho onstage.  The Pet Shop Boys are effeminate and, right or wrong, some people have trouble with that.

[jammindude]

I know it's bordering on sexism (or homosexism or whatever you call it), or is probably over the line actually, but yeah, that's pretty much it. 

Neither one of us are advocating it....but I don't think making a factual observation of societal tendencies (right or wrong) is "over the line"...

[Accelerando]

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/queen-to-release-new-album-with-unreleased-freddie-mercury-songs-20140527

Queen guitarist Brian May stopped by BBC Radio ostensibly to discuss Diableries: Stereoscopic Adventures in Hell, his new book on 19th century French stereoscopic cards. But after detailing his lifelong love of the cards and their odd visions of hell, May revealed plans for a new Queen album featuring unreleased Freddie Mercury vocals from the Eighties.

Readers' Poll: 10 Greatest Queen Songs
Asked what his favorite Queen song ever recorded was, May said the answer changes every time, but "my favorite at the moment is 'Made in Heaven,' which was never a single but it's the title track off the [1995] album we made after Freddie was gone with all the pieces that were left.

"I've just been doing something very similar because we found a few more tracks with Freddie singing and all of us playing and they're quite beautiful. People will be hearing this work toward the end of the year."

May revealed the album will "probably" be called Queen Forever, with the material primarily taken from the Eighties "when we were in full flight." "It's a compilation but it will have this new material on which nobody in the world has ever heard and I think people will really enjoy it," said the guitarist. "It's the big, big epic sound. It wouldn’t have been if we hadn’t have done this restoration job. We only had scraps, but knowing how it would've happened had we finished it, I can sit there and make it happen with modern technology."

The guitarist also admitted that he has "secretly and quietly workshopped" a follow-up to We Will Rock You, the wildly successful musical based on the band's songs. "We are working on a sequel, yes," said May. "In fact, we've already very secretly and quietly workshopped, which means you stand it up and get people to sing it and act it. Everybody loved it, so we're looking for a theatre and we hope to have a sequel out there at some point. More than this, I cannot say. It's a little naughtier than the first one." We Will Rock You author Ben Elton will return for the sequel.

But before any of that, Queen will embark on a 19-date cross-country tour with Adam Lambert kicking off June 19th at Chicago's United Center and wrapping up July 20th at Washington D.C.'s Merriweather Post Pavilion. "This is the closest that you'll ever get to see Queen as it was in our golden days, but it's not a reproduction," May told Rolling Stone. "It's not an imitation. We're here live and real and we have a great singer. They'll be a lot of newness about this. I think that's very exciting. It'll be loud and dangerous and all the things that people used to look for in us."

Give it to me now!!!

[rumborak]

80s Queen, I'll take that any day. Even the Miracle B-sides (e.g. Chinese Torture) were beyond cool.

Regarding the second part of the news item, man, I actually checked the prices for the Boston show. $52 for being in the absolute nosebleed section of TD Garden, where all you do is to watch the screens, because the band itself is just a tiny dot.

[Super Dude]

Eh, I'm more of a "The Game" and earlier Queen fan. Although the hits from the 80s and the later career just kept getting better and better, I think the songs on the rest of those albums suffered for it. I feel like NotW and Jazz, etc. are a lot more balanced.

[Nefarius]

New Queen songs? Shut up and take my money!

Greetings...
Nef

[rumborak]

Listening to Hot Space right now, it's astonishing how a band like Queen can create such a bad album.

[King Postwhore]

Listening to Hot Space right now, it's astonishing how a band like Queen can create such a bad album.

Half of that album I can't even listen to.  Then they come out with The Works, which I love.

[KevShmev]

I think the crossover appeal of Another One Bites the Dust made them think, "Hey, if we write an entire album of songs like that...", but the problem was that not only did the album turn off the rock fans, but the pop/dance songs, aside from Under Pressure, were mostly crap, so there were no other hits to be found, and thus it was pretty much a failure on every level possible.

[rumborak]

Also the lyrics are mostly cringeworthy. Like, how many sexual allusions can you squeeze into one album?
From what I understand, that phase was Freddie's most extreme "sex party" phase, and so the lyrics reflect that party attitude.

[TAC]

I think Innuendo is a great album. What a great way to go out.

[King Postwhore]

Also the lyrics are mostly cringeworthy. Like, how many sexual allusions can you squeeze into one album?
From what I understand, that phase was Freddie's most extreme "sex party" phase, and so the lyrics reflect that party attitude.

The story of the line of guys dressed as sailors going into the dressing room. 

It felt like the Star trek thing in the 80's with the odd and even albums. (Not count Flash Gordon)

The Game - Brilliant.
Hot Space -- Ugh.
The Works -- Much better album
A Kind Of Magic - Spotty at best.
The Miracle -- Love this album

Finally they break this trend with -- Innuendo

[rumborak]

Yeah, AKOM was spotty. Some really good tunes on it, but the lows are looooow.