i also disliked a lot of nu-metal bands and other sub-genres of heavy metal, say industrial metal (Nine inch Nails is the only one i can accept so far). i also avoided them and never shared a single opinion on them because i understand they are also musicians but with another level of musicality. as far as i know Babymetal doesnt belong to any sub-genre of heavy metal, they are not musicians nor play any instruments. all they were offering is singing, dancing and performing some cute moves to metal music. its just like any other pop group say, backstreet boys, but with a twist of metal. to aligned them with those nu-metal bands is as asinine as your presumed "ridiculous attitude" towards metal culture/fandom.
i guess u didnt fully comprehend my comment or maybe i should've expressed differently. i did said i didnt dislike Babymetal for their debut single and loved their concept of incoporating new ideas and introducing heavy metal scene to the public. what is dislike is the degree of the incorporation.
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I comprehended everything you said just fine, thank you very much. You don't like the fact that the girls, like many pop stars, are more just performers rather then musicians and songwriters. That is your opinion, which of course you are free to have. Nothing wrong with not liking how Babymetal (or anyone else for that matter) combines metal and non-metal elements in their music. But you were still making the assertion that mixing J-pop singing, dancing, etc with metal music when the girls in Babymetal are not musicians is some how an insult to Metal-dom ( your words indicated as much, i.e. " i feel its a kind of insincere form of metal." and "pre-teen girls dancing to heavy metal, especially to a fairly good piece like Ijime Dame is a complete joke to heavy metal.")
If you think the nu-metal bands were some how less offensive to metal then Babymetal because of the level of musicianship the members of those bands utilized, fine. That's your choice, and I'm not really going to argue with that. But I do think you missed the broader point of my post. What I was calling ridiculous was the notion, prevalent throughout much of metal fandom, that there is some sort of sacred "true" form of heavy metal, and that mixing metal with other, non-metal forms of music is heresy.
That was the part I was calling asinine, because there is no reason to take music that seriously, and metal isn't really well defined enough as a genre to give rise to some sort of universal metal law. There are no "basic standards" in metal beyond just being heavy and guitar riff driven music. Musicianship really doesn't factor into it. For every metal band of technical wizards like Dream Theater, there are countless bands of talentless players that barely know three chords. And songwriting doesn't really matter, either. Countless metal bands have utilized outside writers who sometime compose the bulk of the band's music. You may not like it, but it happens, and quite frankly, I don't see how it makes a band less authentically metal.
Ultimately, I see Babymetal as being in the same league as Spinal Tap and Dethklok. They are a fabricated marketing tool that is more about the theme and the spectacle of metal, and the humor that can be derived from it, then they are about being an actual band in the conventional sense. It's certainly not for everyone, but it's still highly entertaining. And since music is really just entertainment, is that not all that really matters?
Topic: BABYMETAL - メギツネ - MEGITSUNE (Read 22143 times)
