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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1225 on: September 11, 2014, 07:09:13 PM »
Steve Smith Sr. Still got them moves. He softens the blow of a Ravens offense without Boldin.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1226 on: September 11, 2014, 07:17:09 PM »
Steve Smith's TD last week was so beastly.  The way he stiff armed and threw the DB to the ground like he was nothing was awesome.

Also, Forsett looks much better at RB so far than Pierce. 
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1227 on: September 11, 2014, 07:21:11 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on September 11, 2014, 07:17:09 PM
Steve Smith's TD last week was so beastly.  The way he stiff armed and threw the DB to the ground like he was nothing was awesome.

Also, Forsett looks much better at RB so far than Pierce.

Agreed on both counts. Ravens are being patient with Pierce for whatever reason, but Forsett has looked very good thus far.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1228 on: September 11, 2014, 07:23:04 PM »
Quote from: Destiny Of Chaos on September 11, 2014, 07:21:11 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on September 11, 2014, 07:17:09 PM
Steve Smith's TD last week was so beastly.  The way he stiff armed and threw the DB to the ground like he was nothing was awesome.

Also, Forsett looks much better at RB so far than Pierce.

Agreed on both counts. Ravens are being patient with Pierce for whatever reason, but Forsett has looked very good thus far.

But yeah.... Bell just reminded us who the best RB on the field is.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1229 on: September 11, 2014, 08:22:52 PM »
So.... did anyone start Owen Daniels this week  :omg:
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1230 on: September 11, 2014, 08:25:48 PM »
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So.... did anyone start Owen Daniels this week  :omg:
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1231 on: September 11, 2014, 09:09:13 PM »
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1232 on: September 11, 2014, 09:26:02 PM »
Pleased with the win. It's not every day the Ravens are able to defeat the Steelers so soundly. Hopefully they can take the next 10 days and get back to some normalcy.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1233 on: September 11, 2014, 09:49:42 PM »
That game was strange.  I am used to Ravens/Steelers games being close games that go right down to the wire.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1234 on: September 11, 2014, 11:43:32 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on September 11, 2014, 09:49:42 PM
That game was strange.  I am used to Ravens/Steelers games being close games that go right down to the wire.

Seriously.

I picked Pittsburgh in my work pool too.  Balls.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1235 on: September 12, 2014, 09:33:56 AM »
I think last night showed what a great coach John Harbaugh is.  To have the team that focused and ready to play, after what they dealt with this past week, was a superb job.

On the flip side, at what point do people start acknowledging that Mike Tomlin is merely a good coach, not a great one.  Yeah, yeah, he won a Super Bowl...with a team he inherited from Bill Cowher...but the Steelers are only 17-17 since the start of 2012, and I am seeing way too many games where they don't look ready to play (last night) or games with major lapses (the 2nd half last week).  Sure, nearly every team has their ups and downs, but how much success would he have had if he didn't inherit not only a team that was a little over a year removed from winning the Super Bowl, but the greatest DC ever?
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1236 on: September 12, 2014, 09:46:15 AM »
Yeah, he's certainly not "great."
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1237 on: September 12, 2014, 09:50:44 AM »
The counter-argument in Tomlin's favor is that the Steelers have dealt with major roster dysfunction since losing the Super Bowl.  Being able to go 8-8 the last two years with... whatever they have on their team is a credit to him.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1238 on: September 12, 2014, 09:52:32 AM »
 ???

They still had the number 1 defense in 2012 plus a top 7-8 QB.  One could argue that going 8-8 with the number 1 defense and a 2nd tier QB who threw 26 touchdowns and 8 interceptions is underachieving. 
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1239 on: September 12, 2014, 09:55:30 AM »
Yes, one could argue that.  I would say that everyone should argue that.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1240 on: September 12, 2014, 10:03:20 AM »
I'm not sure when the last time we had this discussion was, but to me, the five best coaches in the NFL are quite obviously Belichick, Carroll, Payton and the Harbaugh brothers.  I know Coughlin has two rings, but he misses the playoffs way too often for me to put him in the top five at this juncture. 
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1241 on: September 12, 2014, 10:11:26 AM »
Quote from: KevShmev on September 12, 2014, 09:52:32 AM
???

They still had the number 1 defense in 2012 plus a top 7-8 QB.  One could argue that going 8-8 with the number 1 defense and a 2nd tier QB who threw 26 touchdowns and 8 interceptions is underachieving. 

Looking at their games from the 2012 season, it's hard to disagree.  They lost to the Raiders (finished 4-12), the Titans (finished 6-10), the Browns (finished 5-11) and the Chargers (finished 7-9).  You guys overrate the 2012 Steelers a little bit (their offense was ranked 22nd in the league in points scored), but their defense was still good.  It's hard to imagine a good coach losing all four of those games.

Still, , it's almost like Grantland's Bill Barnwell prophesied this discussion and wrote a post pertaining to it..  They've managed their cap horribly the last few years.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1242 on: September 12, 2014, 10:44:22 AM »
Quote from: KevShmev on September 12, 2014, 10:03:20 AM
I'm not sure when the last time we had this discussion was, but to me, the five best coaches in the NFL are quite obviously Belichick, Carroll, Payton and the Harbaugh brothers.  I know Coughlin has two rings, but he misses the playoffs way too often for me to put him in the top five at this juncture.

Hard to argue with that list.  I love how Carroll has got his team buying into it all.  They'll got through walls for him.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1243 on: September 12, 2014, 12:56:03 PM »
I wouldnt of put Carroll up there until what he did last year and how he has a team that seems to really love him.  The guy is really charismatic and even though he isnt young, you would think he was based on his personality and I think the players love it.  He is definitely up there with the top current coaches I agree.

And as a Giants fan, I want to put Coughlin up there, but I think he has lost it.  The handling of the OC position and the way the team has been the last few seasons make me think he is getting too old for the job now.  I think he is a great coach who had a great career and a few years ago should be in the top list of coaches, but now, I totally agree he is not one of the best currently.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1244 on: September 12, 2014, 02:14:26 PM »
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Ray Rice talk.... it's all about the Saint's D..... rite??!!

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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1245 on: September 12, 2014, 02:24:03 PM »
Those top 5 have longevity going for them, and taking average teams, and making them borderline extraordinary (Seattle/SF).  There are a lot of good coaches that make teams look great in the short term (Reid with a soft KC schedule; Fox with a kill Denver lineup), but those 5 have put multiple pieces together for a great team(s).

Payton just needs to fire Rob Ryan... way too inconsistent.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1246 on: September 12, 2014, 03:09:46 PM »
Peterson indicted for recklessly endangering a child.

I mean... really?
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1247 on: September 12, 2014, 03:12:07 PM »
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Peterson indicted for recklessly endangering a child.

I mean... really?


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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1248 on: September 12, 2014, 03:23:51 PM »
Apparently he was beating his 11 year old with a switch.  Lovely.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1249 on: September 12, 2014, 04:32:21 PM »
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Apparently he was beating his 11 year old with a switch. 

???  And why is that grounds for an indictment?  (especially in Texas)
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1250 on: September 12, 2014, 04:50:20 PM »
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Quote from: ReaPsTA on September 12, 2014, 03:23:51 PM
Apparently he was beating his 11 year old with a switch. 

???  And why is that grounds for an indictment?  (especially in Texas)
Generally it's not down here, as evidenced by the fact that they no-billed him back in April. Not sure why the new indictment. However, there are pictures and from the doctor's reports it seems pretty clear that this was excessive. Also corroborated by the kid's testimony. As I said elsewhere, if a you get indicted for something like that down here, it really has to be pretty severe. 
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1251 on: September 12, 2014, 04:53:16 PM »
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Quote from: bosk1 on September 12, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
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Apparently he was beating his 11 year old with a switch. 

???  And why is that grounds for an indictment?  (especially in Texas)
Generally it's not down here, as evidenced by the fact that they no-billed him back in April. Not sure why the new indictment. However, there are pictures and from the doctor's reports it seems pretty clear that this was excessive. Also corroborated by the kid's testimony. As I said elsewhere, if a you get indicted for something like that down here, it really has to be pretty severe.

Spot on. This seems to have been excessive. I caught more than one whooping when I was growing up, but I wouldn't say that I was ever injured.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1252 on: September 12, 2014, 04:54:28 PM »
The Vikings just deactivated Peterson for Sunday against the Patriots
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1253 on: September 12, 2014, 04:55:04 PM »
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The Vikings just deactivated Peterson for Sunday against the Patriots
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1254 on: September 12, 2014, 05:43:51 PM »
Quote from: El Barto on September 12, 2014, 04:50:20 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on September 12, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
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Apparently he was beating his 11 year old with a switch. 

???  And why is that grounds for an indictment?  (especially in Texas)
Generally it's not down here, as evidenced by the fact that they no-billed him back in April. Not sure why the new indictment. However, there are pictures and from the doctor's reports it seems pretty clear that this was excessive. Also corroborated by the kid's testimony. As I said elsewhere, if a you get indicted for something like that down here, it really has to be pretty severe. 

Oh, okay.  Gotcha.  I did not realize this incident went that far.  Eesh.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1255 on: September 12, 2014, 06:46:10 PM »
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Quote from: Accelerando on September 12, 2014, 04:54:28 PM
The Vikings just deactivated Peterson for Sunday against the Patriots
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1256 on: September 12, 2014, 08:05:00 PM »
https://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11515179/nfl-players-union-votes-accept-revised-drug-policy?ex_cid=sportscenterFB

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Overall changes are retroactive for players suspended under previous policies, as well as for those in the appeal process. Broncos wide receiver Wes Welker and Cowboys cornerback Orlando Scandrick will be reinstated and eligible to play Sunday, a league source tells ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon's yearlong suspension has been reduced to 10 games, sources told Schefter, following the approval of the league's new drug testing policy.
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« Reply #1257 on: September 12, 2014, 08:49:35 PM »
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« Reply #1258 on: September 12, 2014, 09:20:39 PM »
Leave Andrew Luck out of this.
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Re: NFL thread 2014 v. Saints' D says "Astro Glide won't be necessary."
« Reply #1259 on: September 12, 2014, 09:33:56 PM »
:lol

But seriously, Adrian Peterson...screw that guy.  Greg Hardy, too.  How in the world are the Panthers letting that guy play??
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