NFL thread 2014 v. Frankford Yellow Jackets Lay the Pipe on the Dayton Triangles

[KevShmev]

  I disagree with the notion that Romo is a top tier QB.  He's had moments of excellence, but I wouldn't say he's any better than Cutler. 

His contract aside, I don't think anybody thinks Romo is a top tier QB.  Most would agree that the top tier consists of Peyton, Rodgers, Brady and Brees.  I'd put Romo in the top 10, albeit near the bottom.

As for Romo and Cutler, Romo is definitely better.  Since Cutler's first full season as a starter (2007):

Cutler: 146 touchdowns, 107 INTs, and has a career YPA of 7.2
Romo: 189 touchdowns, 88 INTs, and has a career YPA of 7.8

Even last season, Cutler was outplayed badly by a QB on his own team, as Josh McCown looked far better throwing to those weapons than Cutler did.

It really isn't close.

[jingle.boy]

By "top tier", I was purposefully not saying "elite".  Yes, we all know the top 5 (in my mind that equals elite).  I'd struggle to put him top 10.  It's his consistency (er... lack of) that kills him.

[Accelerando]

Soooo speaking of terrible uniforms....L.A. KISS.....take at look the arena league's newest teams getup

[black_biff_stadler]

It's like the AFL parodied itself in both team name and uni. I definitely am enamored with how they seem to relish taking the piss as a foil to the No Fun League. Also, for a team like that playing in Cali, I'm surprised they ain't based out of SF.

[El Barto]

By "top tier", I was purposefully not saying "elite".  Yes, we all know the top 5 (in my mind that equals elite).  I'd struggle to put him top 10.  It's his consistency (er... lack of) that kills him.

I wouldn't consider Romo inconsistent at all. He has the occasional bad game, like every other QB, and he has an issue with choking. But by and large he plays at a very good level most of the time. Nobody plays at a great level all of the time.

And Gene Simmons should just fucking die already.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Soooo speaking of terrible uniforms....L.A. KISS.....take at look the arena league's newest teams getup

That's awesome (for an Arena League team.)

[hefdaddy42]

And the Panthers are looking to trade Steve Smith.  *weeps*

[jammindude]

It's like the AFL parodied itself in both team name and uni. I definitely am enamored with how they seem to relish taking the piss as a foil to the No Fun League. Also, for a team like that playing in Cali, I'm surprised they ain't based out of SF.

Actually, this is *EXACTLY* why I think I'm jumping on board with the AFL this year.   I've never really followed it, but it does just have that light-hearted "not quite as serious" feel to it.   And I really like that.   

It's like being a fan of the Lingerie Football League, but without having to make a long list of explanations and excuses that are only going to be met with an eyeroll.   

[black_biff_stadler]

I've been a fan of the AFL off and on since discovering it in '91. If you think any less than 95% of the people you try to discuss it with aren't gonna roll their eyes at you, you're woefully optimistic.

[El Barto]

A vendor gave me some tickets to an arena game a few years ago. The cheerleaders were more interesting than the game, and the highlight was Drew Pearson being in the audience and getting an ovation. The game itself was just taking turns throwing long touchdown passes and see who scores last. Think ours was 49-42 or something.

[Accelerando]

I went to a few Orlando Predators games, and it was alright. And going off from what El Barto said, i saw no strategy in the game like I'm used to watching NFL or NCAA games. AFL to me was more about the spectacle of the sport rather than the sport itself, and it looks L.A. KISS is going to capitalize on it.

I want to go to opening night just to see if the band plays!

[jammindude]

A vendor gave me some tickets to an arena game a few years ago. The cheerleaders were more interesting than the game, and the highlight was Drew Pearson being in the audience and getting an ovation. The game itself was just taking turns throwing long touchdown passes and see who scores last. Think ours was 49-42 or something.

So...basketball? 

[Jamesman42]

A vendor gave me some tickets to an arena game a few years ago. The cheerleaders were more interesting than the game, and the highlight was Drew Pearson being in the audience and getting an ovation. The game itself was just taking turns throwing long touchdown passes and see who scores last. Think ours was 49-42 or something.

So...basketball? 

lol

[black_biff_stadler]

The game probably seems a bit less strategic since it's somewhat of the polar opposite of the NFL. In an NFL game a team usually score 3-5 times (counting field goals) whereas in an AFL game teams usually only stop the other team 3-5 times so there's a greater urgency to score since allowing a score on defense is the expected outcome so you can't afford to fall behind.

[bosk1]

NO!  The 49ers let Whitner go... 


EDIT:  Never mind. 

[rickhawk80]

The game itself was just taking turns throwing long touchdown passes and see who scores last. Think ours was 49-42 or something.

So .... it was a pretty low-scoring game for Arena League.   

[Tom Bombadil]

Eagles sign Malcolm Jenkins. Like the move. Didn't have to break the break, and he's a definite upgrade over Patrick Chung.

[rickhawk80]

Well crap.  The bloodletting in New Orleans continues.  Enjoy Jenkins, Tom -- he's still on the upswing.  No idea why the Saints let him get away.  Not sure who's left on the roster at this point.  Oh yeah, that's right:

[jammindude]

Jermichael Finley is flying into Seattle tonight for negotiations. 

Hasn't he been hurt really bad lately?   Not sure how I feel about this.

[Tom Bombadil]

Saints sign Jarius Byrd. He's a great player, but I don't understand why the Saints let all those players go and then spend a ton on one guy. At least for rickhawk and bf it will help ease the pain of losing all those players.

[black_biff_stadler]

No it won't. As of the Byrd signing, this offseason has basically been like cutting off a few fingers, giving up a kidney, lung, and gall bladder in order to fund a quarter-inch cock enlargement procedure. Our front office is outsmarting themselves to a dumbfounding extent and we're gonna have a quasi-rebuilding year due to inevitable lack of cohesion and growing pains instead of the 12 or 13 win year we had a legit shot at if we hadn't mortgaged the next two years for Graham.

 

[bosk1]

this offseason has basically been like cutting off a few fingers, giving up a kidney, lung, and gall bladder in order to fund a quarter-inch cock enlargement procedure.

So you're saying it was worth it?

[rickhawk80]

this offseason has basically been like cutting off a few fingers, giving up a kidney, lung, and gall bladder in order to fund a quarter-inch cock enlargement procedure.

So you're saying it was worth it?

    I'm laughing on the outside but crying inside.  Floyd is right -- the loss of Sproles is going to be HUGE.  He's going to make some other team very happy next season....

[black_biff_stadler]

this offseason has basically been like cutting off a few fingers, giving up a kidney, lung, and gall bladder in order to fund a quarter-inch cock enlargement procedure.

So you're saying it was worth it?

I knew this response was imminent when I posted that

[rickhawk80]

Saints sign Jarius Byrd. He's a great player, but I don't understand why the Saints let all those players go and then spend a ton on one guy. At least for rickhawk and bf it will help ease the pain of losing all those players.

That signing does explain why they let Malcom Jenkins leave for your team, Tom. 

[ReaPsTA]

Jon Martin traded to 49ers.  Probably the best opportunity for him.  Hope he makes the best of it.

[El Barto]

Jon Martin traded to 49ers.  Probably the best opportunity for him.  Hope he makes the best of it.

Why is it the best opportunity for him? There's a fair amount of ego floating around there. A coach who's a possible nutjob. Pre-existing drama in the locker-room. A possible coaching change. Not saying you're wrong, but it doesn't strike me as a good fit for a guy with depression and self-esteem issues.

[KevShmev]

Not sure I like the Broncos overpaying like that for Talib, but it's obvious they are pushing all their chips in to win a title before Peyton is finished. 

[El Barto]

Not sure I like the Broncos overpaying like that for Talib, but it's obvious they are pushing all their chips in to win a title before Peyton is finished.

Sorry to see him leave NE.

[jingle.boy]

That ought to be a fun first team meeting with Welker.

If Denver can get Ware too... that's gonna be a massive improvement on their D with him and Miller rushing opposing QBs all season.

[black_biff_stadler]

I heard they're pursuing Pat Swilling but can't find any sites to confirm it yet. Stay tuned...

[ReaPsTA]

Jon Martin traded to 49ers.  Probably the best opportunity for him.  Hope he makes the best of it.

Why is it the best opportunity for him? There's a fair amount of ego floating around there. A coach who's a possible nutjob. Pre-existing drama in the locker-room. A possible coaching change. Not saying you're wrong, but it doesn't strike me as a good fit for a guy with depression and self-esteem issues.

Harbaugh was interviewed for the Wells report and spoke very highly of him.  Whatever the facts, a lot of people are probably questioning Martin.  With the 49ers, he gets to be part of a winning culture with a coach who's done a good job with him in the past.

[KevShmev]

That ought to be a fun first team meeting with Welker.

If Denver can get Ware too... that's gonna be a massive improvement on their D with him and Miller rushing opposing QBs all season.

I don't remember Talib crying about the hit - that was all Belichick, IIRC - so I think it will be fine.

Their D should be improved, with or without Ware, but Decker's imminent departure will be a big loss.

[Tom Bombadil]

Broncos also got TJ Ward. Their secondary should be much improved.

[ReaPsTA]

As an Eagles fan, my hope is that the team doesn't make any big, splashy signings.  Keep building slowly and organically.  Don't sign any bad contracts.  Of all teams, the Eagles should know that you can't just buy your way into a Super Bowl.