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Jaq's Top 50 v. Massive Infodump (15-1!)
« on: February 24, 2014, 09:53:09 AM »
It seems that the time has come for me to produce a top 50 list. Please hold your applause for the end. Assuming there is any.   :lol

My selection criteria was simple: my top 50 studio albums. I came to this decision when I made my original list to whittle down to fifty, included live albums, and had over 150 albums on it. I decided then that it would be far easier for me to eliminate the live albums in one fell swoop and concentrate on studio albums, which reduced the list to under a more manageable 100 albums.  :lol I'd also like to point out that an amazing amount of albums on this list are older albums, the music I grew up with and influenced me the most. A lot of my list is going to come across as standards, though there are the occasional surprise, a couple of "really? interesting choice there" and at least one "Didn't think he'd listen to that."

This list could have very easily been a top 100, and I'd like to point out that on my original list that I whittled down, the difference in my affection for the albums from 30-80 was so slight, if I did this list again in a year, half of it would be in an utterly different order and five albums would be removed to be replaced by others. Also, in defiance of tradition, there won't be album cover images until the top 10, because I'm a slacker and I don't feel like hotlinking the first image choice I find in Google.  :lol

Also, Kev, there will be no albums by Europe on this list. Here we go!
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 10:05:34 AM »
50. Edge of Sanity-Crimson

Released: April 2, 1996
Produced by Dan Swanö and Edge of Sanity

Track Listing:
1. Crimson (40:00)


Number 50 on my list is the insanely ambitious, single track album Crimson. 40 minutes of well realized, keenly delivered progressive melodic death metal that touches on several recurring musical themes with perfect structure, with guest vocals by Mikael Akerfeldt long, long before Opeth was a blip on the American metal radar. No one who hears this should be shocked by the progressive directions Dan Swanö took his music in after this.


49. Slayer-Reign In Blood

Released: October 7, 1986
Produced by Rick Rubin and Slayer

Track Listing:
1. Angel of Death 4:51
2. Piece by Piece 2:03
3. Necrophobic   1:40
4. Altar of Sacrifice  2:50
5. Jesus Saves 2:54
6. Criminally Insane 2:23
7. Reborn 2:12
8. Epidemic  2:23
9. Postmortem   3:27
10. Raining Blood 4:51


It is difficult to express to people who weren’t there in 1986 just how extreme this album was. At the time of its release, Reign In Blood was one of the few thrash metal albums to be released on a major label, albeit Rick Rubin’s primarily at that time rap label Def Jam (yes, that’s right, Slayer’s major label debut was on a rap label. Imagine that happening today.) Bookended by the longer, yet no less aggressive “Angel of Death” and “Raining Blood”, this album eschewed the longer, more complex approach of Metallica to offer up 30 minutes of hardcore punk influenced speed and anger that made most people who listened to this say “what the fuck is THIS?” I remember very well the look of disgust, flat out disgust that I was given from the girl who sold me this album. Slayer was out there in 1986. WAY out there. You didn't have death metal or black metal as we know them now, so when you walked into a mainstream record store and bought a Slayer album, people looked at you funny. I also realized as I went looking for the track lengths just how much of this album Jeff Hanneman wrote, and how much Slayer is going to miss him.

48. Helloween-Keeper of the Seven Keys Part One.

 Released: May 23, 1987 
 Produced by: Tommy Newton and Tommy Hansen

Track Listing:   
1. Initiation 1:20
2. I'm Alive 3:22
3. A Little Time   3:59
4. Twilight of the Gods   4:29
5.  A Tale That Wasn't Right 4:42
6. Future World   4:02
7. Halloween   13:18
8. Follow the Sign 1:46


Welcome to the birth of power metal. While earlier Helloween releases owed as much to thrash metal as the traditional, twin guitar Maiden/Priest sound, the arrival of Michael Kiske and his insane range and vocal prowess moved Helloween away from their thrash-influenced beginnings and gave birth to a new subgenre of heavy metal in power metal. In 1987, people heard the guitar tandem of Kai Hansen and Michael Kiske doing the classic Maiden harmony guitars, only played roughly twice as fast, and freaked the fuck out. Familiarity with what power metal has become has dulled some of the edges of this album, but in 1987, this album’s sheer speed was amazing.

47. Gary Moore-After The War

Released: January 25, 1989
Produced by: Peter Collins


Track Listing:
1. Dunluce Pt. 1 1:17
2. After The War 4:17
3. Speak For Yourself 3:42
4. Livin’ On Dreams 4:14
5. Led Clones 6:07
6. The Messiah Will Come Again 7:29
7. Running From The Storm 4:45
8. This Thing Called Love 3:32
9. Ready For Love 5:39
10. Blood of Emeralds 8:19
11. Dunluce Pt 2 3:50


After The War was the late, great, criminally underrated guitarist Gary Moore’s last stab at being a hard rock/metal star before he released a series of fairly successful blues albums for the vast majority of his career before his death from a heart attack in 2011. In many ways, this album pretty much throws everything the man could do at the wall, from blazing fast metal to catchy hard rock to the Celtic influenced sound of the massive sounding tribute to Phil Lynott, Blood Of Emeralds. Led Clones is a tongue in cheek jab at the bands in the 1980s who sounded like Led Zeppelin, with vocals by Ozzy Osbourne, and it also earns the Jaq seal of approval for having Cozy Powell drum on it. But the must be heard track, which prefigured the rest of Moore’s career, is the stunning cover of Roy Buchanan’s The Messiah Will Come again, which is essentially seven minutes of Moore playing a blues guitar solo.  As a swan song to Moore’s hard rock/metal career (though I always thought the blues albums started as a bit of an one off and became a career when they were more successful in the US than his rock albums) it’s hard to fault it. It's also worth noting that this was one of the earliest albums I personally recall where the format determined the songs: the listing above is the listing of the CD release. Both the cassette and vinyl releases had fewer tracks, which made this one of the first albums I bought where the "bonus tracks" were format based, unlike today's region or sales outlet based bonus tracks.

More coming later in the week, after I ice my fingers down from formatting these entries!



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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 10:28:01 AM »
This Keeper album is great.
I went to the wiki to check out who is Tommy Hansen and:

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Filip Trojovský (born 16 March 1982 in Havířov, Czechoslovakia) is a Czech actor, model and television personality. He is also known by his stage name Tommy Hansen in gay pornography.

Apparently it's another guy.  :lol
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 10:39:16 AM »
Crimson is great!  Are we going to see any other Swanö-related albums?

Never can truly get into Reign in Blood.  I own it, have listed to it several times, but it just doesn't do it for me.

Just listened to that Helloween album for the first time a few weeks ago.  Gonna have to take a few more listens . . .

Gary Moore . . . going to have to give this album a go soon.  I keep seeing his name here and there on the boards.
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 10:39:39 AM »
A lot of my list is going to come across as standards,

There is a reason that some albums are loved more than others.  There is nothing wrong with this.
     

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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 10:47:57 AM »
Crimson is great!  Are we going to see any other Swanö-related albums?


Moontower was in the high 50s on my last list before I whittled it down, and is one of the albums likely to make it into this list if I did it again next year.  :lol
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2014, 05:04:00 PM »
I like the way this list has started. Looking forward to the rest of 46-1 now.
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 05:05:01 PM »
Promising start - I can't say any of them are all time  faves of mine (although a couple of the artists are) - and I'll certainly be following.  Fogey top 50's that I can relate to don't come along every day  ;D

No Europe though..........
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2014, 05:08:23 PM »
Wow, that is one of the best top 50 updates I've seen.

Crimson came in at the teens in my top 50, it's amazing.

Reign in Blood is the ultimate thrash album and was one that would sit around number 70 on my list.

Keepers Part one is a classic and would probably go at around number 65.

After the War is one of Gary's most underrated and heaviest.  Always loved that one.
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2014, 09:05:24 PM »
First time I heard Angel of Death I think I bled from my eyes... :metal :metal :metal 

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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2014, 09:07:10 PM »
Give me Moore every time.
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2014, 09:12:50 PM »
Reign in Blood is just  :metal

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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2014, 11:10:21 PM »


Also, Kev, there will be no albums by Europe on this list. 

Hey, there wasn't any on mine either! :lol

I do hope to see some ELO, however. :biggrin:

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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2014, 03:34:53 PM »
There will be some ELO, Kev, but it'll be a while til we get there and I already told that story  :rollin

Let's get at it again!

46. The Who-Who’s Next

Released: August 14, 1971
Produced by: The Who and Glyn Johns

Track listing:

1. Baba O'Riley  5:08
2. Bargain 5:34
3. Love Ain't for Keeping 5:10
4. My Wife 3:41
5. The Song Is Over 6:14   
6. Getting in Tune 4:50
7. Going Mobile   3:42
8. Behind Blue Eyes 3:42
9. Won't Get Fooled Again 8:32


Remember what I said about standards? Yeah, here comes one at you. Of the three biggest albums by the Who-this, Tommy, and Quadrophenia-this wins out as my favorite by a hair because, despite the origins of some of the songs as part of another rock opera, Lifehouse, Who’s Next’s focus on the songs rather than an overarching concept means that the nine tracks here hit as hard as hell and are all immaculately crafted and part together and a great many are classics that a band would love to have across a career, let alone an album.


45. Dire Straits-Making Movies

Released: October 17, 1980
Produced by: Jimmy Iovine and Mark Knopfler
Track listing:
1. Tunnel of Love 8:11
2. Romeo and Juliet 6:00
3. Skateaway 6:40
4. Expresso Love 5:12
5. Hand in Hand 4:48
6. Solid Rock 3:19
7. Les Boys 4:07


It might shock people who had discerned my general tastes in music from my posting here to find out that I love Mark Knopfler as a guitarist and that Dire Straits is one of my favorite bands. Both are true, however, and Making Movies is the band’s finest album. The murderer’s row of the first three tracks, the first side of the vinyl,  the long, dramatic Tunnel of Love, with the glorious build of the end guitar solo until it explodes, the sardonic yet emotional Romeo and Juliet, and the catchy chorus of Skateaway is enough to sell most albums, but the remainder of the album is (no pun intended with the title of track six) rock solid. The band introduced keyboards to their sound-played by Roy Bittan of Bruce Springsteen fame-and the music and lyrics are top notch. Great album.


44. Spiral Architect-A Sceptic’s Universe

Released: January 18, 2000
Produced by: Neil Kernon

Track Listing:

1. Spinning 3:23
2. Excessit 6:14
3. Moving Spirit 3:44
4. Occam's Razor 1:33
5. Insect 5:54
6. Cloud Constructor 5:25
7. Conjuring Collapse 6:31
8. Adaptability 4:34
9. Fountainhead 6:30



And then you go about as far from Dire Straits as you can get in the same list. The sole album by Norwegian technical metal band Spiral Architect is perhaps the most technically adept progressive metal album yours truly has ever heard. The band manages the neat trick of making five and six minute long songs seem far longer than they are with non-stop changes that also manage to be organic, the band locked together with the sort of precision that a robot would admire. The music is driven by the stellar bass playing of Lars K. Norberg, a criminally underrated talent and you should listen to him play now now now. Rumors of a follow up have floated around the progressive metal community for fourteen years now, but at least they gave us this masterpiece. I can’t imagine anyone who likes Dream Theater’s more technical leanings wouldn’t like this.


43. Black Sabbath-Heaven And Hell

Released: April 25, 1980
Produced by: Martin Birch

1. Neon Knights 3:53
2. Children of the Sea 5:34
3. Lady Evil 4:26
4. Heaven and Hell 6:59
5. Wishing Well    4:07
6. Die Young 4:45
7. Walk Away    4:25
8. Lonely Is the Word 5:51


On occasion as I whittled down one hundred and fifty albums to make this list, some oddities occurred. One of them will be dealt with as the first entry in the NEXT post. One of them was that, when the dust settled, there wasn’t a Judas Priest album in my top 50. (Stained Class and Screaming For Vengeance made my list in the 70-90 range.) And one of them was that Heaven And Hell wound up my highest rated Black Sabbath album, which I was certain wasn’t going to happen at all. And yet, here it is. To many people, it’s the title track and nothing else, others will cite Neon Knights (perhaps the best statement of intent for a new line up I’ve ever heard) or Children of the Sea. The entire album, though, is that good. One of the things forgotten in this day and age was that there was a bit of rivalry in the budding metal community, at least in my neck of the woods. Some people backed Ozzy, some people backed Dio’s Sabbath. Me, I reveled in the two albums Sabbath made with Dio in the 80s and the two albums Ozzy made with Randy Rhoads and chuckled at the early model scene kids.
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. Two Posts In Two Days! (46-44)
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2014, 03:38:02 PM »
Man, I gotta check Spiral Architect now.  I've seen a lot of good things written about them but never checked them out, I have to now.  Heaven and Hell is of course classsic, and props to The Who and the awesome Dire Straits.
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. A Lot Harder Than This Looks (50-47)
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2014, 03:40:09 PM »
Jaq, a fantastic start.

Keepers was Top 5 for me. It changed the way I listened to music. It's that important.

And a HELL YES for After The War. It's a fantastic album. Blood Of Emeralds is outstanding, and Cozy Powell FTW!

I remember walking into a record store to buy Slayer Tickets. This was for the Seasons Club Tour. I said I wanted two tickets, and the girl was like, you're kidding. She told me " You don't look like a Slayer fan."  :lol


Just saw the latest update..

Who's Next is the only Who album I have ever bought.

And Heaven And Hell is Top 15 for me.


Will definitely be following.
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2014, 04:24:45 PM »
Another cool update -   Dire Straits is the soundtrack to a fair part of my childhood..........one of 3 or 4 quality "wimpy" bands that my father got me into and which I've always liked.

Spiral Architect........need to check em out.

The Who were a touch before my time and didn't really get much airplay in Australia - they're a band I've got on my "work my way back to them" list.  My biggest exposure to their music is via Van Halen who often played Won't Get Fooled Again live.

Heaven and Hell ..........love the title track, Neon Knights etc..... but much of the rest I find just okay.  Wouldn't be my top pick from Sabbs.
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2014, 04:54:02 PM »
some awesome picks so far!

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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2014, 04:54:57 PM »
The Who were a touch before my time and didn't really get much airplay in Australia - they're a band I've got on my "work my way back to them" list.  My biggest exposure to their music is via Van Halen who often played Won't Get Fooled Again live.

I hear them all the time on triple m radio these days.
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2014, 05:20:58 PM »
I haven't listened to music on the radio since the early 90's...................unless it's been out of my control or to keep someone happy  ;D  The only reason I have a radio is to cater for people who might come over who like crap music :neverusethis:
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2014, 06:52:29 PM »
Man, I gotta check Spiral Architect now.  I've seen a lot of good things written about them but never checked them out, I have to now. 

Good luck finding a copy.  It is a great album, somewhat ahead of it's time.  black_floyd told me it is his favorite album of all time, so there are a few of us here who are fans of Spiral Architect.
     

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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2014, 06:57:45 PM »
Man, I gotta check Spiral Architect now.  I've seen a lot of good things written about them but never checked them out, I have to now. 

Good luck finding a copy.  It is a great album, somewhat ahead of it's time.  black_floyd told me it is his favorite album of all time, so there are a few of us here who are fans of Spiral Architect.

I am not certain its time has come yet.  :lol It is a fantastic album though.  :metal
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2014, 07:03:00 PM »
Just checked out a couple of tracks from Spiral Architect - not likely to be my cup of tea but great for what it is.  Reminds me a bit of Watchtower.
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. Two Posts In Two Days! (46-43)
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2014, 07:05:26 PM »
Spiral Architect are technically amazing, but I really have to be in a certain mood to listen to them.

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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2014, 07:06:31 PM »
Main reason why it's relatively low on my list-it's not something you can bring out every day and jam out to. It's the very definition of a mood album.
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. Two Posts In Two Days! (46-43)
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2014, 07:26:44 PM »
Spiral Architect are technically amazing, but I really have to be in a certain mood to listen to them.
I've got one of their albums and this is what I think about it, too. Not something I listen to much at all.

Solid update regardless, though. :metal

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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2014, 08:24:42 PM »
Heaven and Hell falls into the epic category for me.... :metal

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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. Two Posts In Two Days! (46-43)
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2014, 09:01:56 PM »
Gotta check out that Spiral Architect. Nice update as well.
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« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2014, 09:25:18 PM »
second mentions of Who's Next (lonestar), Making Movies (ReaperKK), and H&H (TAC) in top 50 lists.  First mention for Spiral Architect in any list.

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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2014, 09:27:16 PM »
Who's next is an absolute staple in Classic Rock.  Top 5 album of all time in that genre.

Looking forward to this list (and of course, the stories).
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. Two Posts In Two Days! (46-43)
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2014, 04:46:49 AM »
I just listened to the song Spinning from Spiral Architect and it was fucking awesome.  Reminds me of a mix of Cynic, Gordian Knot, Watchtower and early Fates Warning.  Definitely one that I need in my collection.
Everyone else, except Wolfking is wrong.

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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. Two Posts In Two Days! (46-43)
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2014, 10:40:44 AM »
I just listened to the song Spinning from Spiral Architect and it was fucking awesome.  Reminds me of a mix of Cynic, Gordian Knot, Watchtower and early Fates Warning.  Definitely one that I need in my collection.

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Funny thing about that album is that, despite its relative obscurity even when I bought it, I found it in a local FYE. Go figure.

Next four will come tomorrow, as I am up to my ass in various things today.
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. Two Posts In Two Days! (46-43)
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2014, 10:55:14 AM »
Just wanted to say it's always a pleasure to see some Dire Straits in those lists.
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. Two Posts In Two Days! (46-43)
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2014, 08:43:08 AM »
no album art?! i. am. OUTTA HERE!

*notices Spiral Architect on the way out*     ....   okay, following.  :metal

Spiral Architect are technically amazing, but I really have to be in a certain mood to listen to them.
I've got one of their albums and this is what I think about it, too. Not something I listen to much at all.

Solid update regardless, though. :metal

dude, youre a bigger fan than you realize; you own they is entire discography, yo!
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Re: Jaq's Top 50 ver. Two Posts In Two Days! (46-43)
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2014, 08:46:04 AM »
Okay, maybe tomorrow. Wasn't expecting to get slapped upside my head by my first spring cold on the last day of February  :censored
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