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The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« on: November 27, 2013, 10:15:25 AM »
The last Turktation of the Passionate Butterball

Today is my last day as a Turkey. Tomorrow a cleaver with plunge down hard on my neck line leaving me dancing(without the stars) around my living room until I fall to the ground. At that point I will have my feathers plucked and I will be thoroughly cleaned and prepped to be thrown in the oven. I will be slathered with butter and herbs and I will be looking fine! After about 3 hours I will emerge from the oven with one hell of a tan! Don't be jealous now. Then I will sit on the counter in what I like to call Turkey purgatory as I await my carving. Once I am slapped on the plate with side dishes I will be all the rage! I will NOT be dry! I will not go out like that! I will be juicy and flavorful and reminiscent of how I lived my life. Then I will summon the God of Turkey and ask him to graciously allow me some final words! If granted I will utter them for all to hear!
Eat me!

I wish you all a happy and blessed Thanksgiving with glorious food and drink and time with friends and family!

Don't over cook the bird! Use a digital thermometer plunged into the breast and set to 165 degrees!

Visit a native American in a nursing home and read them a book about the glory and splendor of Thanksgiving!

Lastly... make sure the people you love know that you do! Life is short so stay the hell out of Walmart tomorrow!

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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 10:46:00 AM »
Tofurky time!



(not really though, that stuff is nasty)
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 10:54:51 AM »
Tofurky time!

*snip*

(not really though, that stuff is nasty)


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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 11:02:15 AM »
Tofurky time!

*snip*

(not really though, that stuff is nasty)



Agreed. In fact, I can't say that I like any Thanksgiving food much. For me it's always been a massive collection of mediocre-to-good dishes. I'd rather just have one or two excellent dishes.
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2013, 11:25:20 AM »
Tofurky time!



(not really though, that stuff is nasty)
I will recommend you be banned for posting that picture!...or at least warned?
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013, 11:42:25 AM »
Are those ants crawling around in the middle?

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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2013, 11:43:48 AM »
Are those ants crawling around in the middle?
Mind as well be. Who cares, no one is eating that pile of crap. :tick2:
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 11:50:27 AM »
I will recommend you be banned for posting that picture!...or at least warned?

Agreed.  Warning issued.  Along with a warning to the thread starter for doing a Thanksgiving thread and failing to include the most important Thanksgiving tradition of all:  getting ready for Black Friday!  :victorydance:
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2013, 11:57:53 AM »
I will recommend you be banned for posting that picture!...or at least warned?

Agreed.  Warning issued.  Along with a warning to the thread starter for doing a Thanksgiving thread and failing to include the most important Thanksgiving tradition of all:  getting ready for Black Friday!  :victorydance:

Or the fact that it's just another weekend for the rest of the world.

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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 12:03:14 PM »
Black Friday is an evil word here in this Wal Mart DC I work in!

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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 12:10:02 PM »
I will recommend you be banned for posting that picture!...or at least warned?

Agreed.  Warning issued.  Along with a warning to the thread starter for doing a Thanksgiving thread and failing to include the most important Thanksgiving tradition of all:  getting ready for Black Friday!  :victorydance:
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 12:13:17 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7v-LQsQKoY
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 12:52:01 PM »
Can I just say..... what in the blue hell is up with green bean casserole? How did this abomination infest its way on to the Thanksgiving day menu??
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2013, 01:29:35 PM »
Tis rather nasty, just go with some good green beans almondine instead.



We got about 2000 peeps showing up for thanksgiving dinner tomorrow, gonna suck big time.

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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2013, 01:30:49 PM »
Tis rather nasty, just go with some good green beans almondine instead.



We got about 2000 peeps showing up for thanksgiving dinner tomorrow, gonna suck big time.
Yeah, I like do a simple olive oil and garlic string beans.
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2013, 01:33:18 PM »
Green bean casserole is just an overkill of heaviness on a day already filled with heavy foods. Plus, why fuck up a good vegetable by drowning it in a heavy cream sauce.....






Wait, did I just say that?

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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2013, 02:03:13 PM »
We got about 2000 peeps showing up for thanksgiving dinner tomorrow, gonna suck big time.

That must suck.  I would being a chef on Thanksgiving.  ...well, other than the pay.  :lol

My boss is actually showing up there with her family and boyfriend.  Can I tell her to ask for you?  Hook me up, bro?  :bribery:
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2013, 02:25:02 PM »
Green bean casserole is just an overkill of heaviness on a day already filled with heavy foods. Plus, why fuck up a good vegetable by drowning it in a heavy cream sauce.....






Wait, did I just say that?
The problem arises when people equate heavy cream sauce with a can of Campbell's Cream of fucking mushroom soup. Personally, I enjoy most casseroles, including green bean, but then I know how to make a freaking sauce. There's also a certain nostalgia aspect to it.

Frankly, it's the stupid-ass turkey that's always the weak link in a Thanksgiving meal; sorry-ass birds. As a single guy, I get to go small.  It's Cornish game hen for me, and since this is Texas, chorizo and jalapeno cornbread stuffing.

And black Friday is just another example of how we've totally ruined the holidays over here. Thanksgiving and Christmas used to be pleasant. Now we've just made them exhausting and stressful. Aside from the fact that I get to drive like a lunatic since all the cops are guarding parking lots, there's really nothing pleasant at all about having to get out this time of year. Stores are crowded. You've heard every Christmas carol too many times to enjoy them anymore. Commercials calling you a loser if you don't buy your wife a stupidly overpriced ring (or for us single guys a bigger TV). It's starting to appear that people have actually been conditioned to think they enjoy rampant consumerism, despite how much of a PITA it is this time of year.

Anyhoo, I actually go out of my way to eliminate as much stress as possible by planing ahead and blowing off most of the so-called tradition. I'll chill all day and watch football, let family members feed me, and have nothing whatsoever to do over the weekend since I largely ignore Christmas. So, everybody enjoy Thanksgiving and try to not actually work for a change.
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2013, 02:37:57 PM »
...and since this is Texas, chorizo and jalapeno cornbread stuffing.

Yum!  ...and it doesn't have to be Texas.  That would be amazing anywhere:biggrin:

And black Friday is just another example of how we've totally ruined the holidays over here.

I was joking about the Black Friday part, just to take a good-natured jab at Tick, given his past rants about it. 

...although, that being said, on the occasions when I do go out on Black Friday, I generally have fun with it.  I don't go after the "big ticket" items that lunatics line up and fight for, like the 5 big screen TVs in the entire Walmart store.  But it's fun to sit around after the Thanksgiving meal and thumb through the ads to see if there are good deals on things I would actually buy for people.  And if a given store has a few items I am interested in so that it's actually worth going, I might go, knowing the place will be packed, but also knowing I'm not in a rush either and can take my time and get home whenever I get home.  For some strange reason that I can't explain, I actually find it calming to be out in the middle of the night in a sea of people and not feel any sense of urgency to have to get anywhere quickly.
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2013, 03:02:41 PM »
We got about 2000 peeps showing up for thanksgiving dinner tomorrow, gonna suck big time.

That must suck.  I would being a chef on Thanksgiving.  ...well, other than the pay.  :lol

My boss is actually showing up there with her family and boyfriend.  Can I tell her to ask for you?  Hook me up, bro?  :bribery:

They're probably doing the brunch, I will have little to do with that half. Plus, I'm gonna be so busy, my own mother wouldn't get hooked up.

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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2013, 12:50:20 AM »
We got about 2000 peeps showing up for thanksgiving dinner tomorrow, gonna suck big time.

That must suck.  I would being a chef on Thanksgiving.  ...well, other than the pay.  :lol

My boss is actually showing up there with her family and boyfriend.  Can I tell her to ask for you?  Hook me up, bro?  :bribery:

They're probably doing the brunch, I will have little to do with that half. Plus, I'm gonna be so busy, my own mother wouldn't get hooked up.

So, that would be NOOOOOO then... :lol
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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2013, 01:25:16 AM »
Pretty much :p

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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2013, 04:47:06 AM »
...although, that being said, on the occasions when I do go out on Black Friday, I generally have fun with it.  I don't go after the "big ticket" items that lunatics line up and fight for, like the 5 big screen TVs in the entire Walmart store.  But it's fun to sit around after the Thanksgiving meal and thumb through the ads to see if there are good deals on things I would actually buy for people.  And if a given store has a few items I am interested in so that it's actually worth going, I might go, knowing the place will be packed, but also knowing I'm not in a rush either and can take my time and get home whenever I get home.  For some strange reason that I can't explain, I actually find it calming to be out in the middle of the night in a sea of people and not feel any sense of urgency to have to get anywhere quickly.
We've done Black Friday several times with the same experience.  We had fun with it and enjoyed it.  But we haven't done it in the past several years.
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2013, 04:55:22 AM »
Green bean casserole is just an overkill of heaviness on a day already filled with heavy foods. Plus, why fuck up a good vegetable by drowning it in a heavy cream sauce.....






Wait, did I just say that?
The problem arises when people equate heavy cream sauce with a can of Campbell's Cream of fucking mushroom soup. Personally, I enjoy most casseroles, including green bean, but then I know how to make a freaking sauce. There's also a certain nostalgia aspect to it.

Frankly, it's the stupid-ass turkey that's always the weak link in a Thanksgiving meal; sorry-ass birds. As a single guy, I get to go small.  It's Cornish game hen for me, and since this is Texas, chorizo and jalapeno cornbread stuffing.

And black Friday is just another example of how we've totally ruined the holidays over here. Thanksgiving and Christmas used to be pleasant. Now we've just made them exhausting and stressful. Aside from the fact that I get to drive like a lunatic since all the cops are guarding parking lots, there's really nothing pleasant at all about having to get out this time of year. Stores are crowded. You've heard every Christmas carol too many times to enjoy them anymore. Commercials calling you a loser if you don't buy your wife a stupidly overpriced ring (or for us single guys a bigger TV). It's starting to appear that people have actually been conditioned to think they enjoy rampant consumerism, despite how much of a PITA it is this time of year.

Anyhoo, I actually go out of my way to eliminate as much stress as possible by planing ahead and blowing off most of the so-called tradition. I'll chill all day and watch football, let family members feed me, and have nothing whatsoever to do over the weekend since I largely ignore Christmas. So, everybody enjoy Thanksgiving and try to not actually work for a change.
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...although, that being said, on the occasions when I do go out on Black Friday, I generally have fun with it.  I don't go after the "big ticket" items that lunatics line up and fight for, like the 5 big screen TVs in the entire Walmart store.  But it's fun to sit around after the Thanksgiving meal and thumb through the ads to see if there are good deals on things I would actually buy for people.  And if a given store has a few items I am interested in so that it's actually worth going, I might go, knowing the place will be packed, but also knowing I'm not in a rush either and can take my time and get home whenever I get home.  For some strange reason that I can't explain, I actually find it calming to be out in the middle of the night in a sea of people and not feel any sense of urgency to have to get anywhere quickly.
We've done Black Friday several times with the same experience.  We had fun with it and enjoyed it.  But we haven't done it in the past several years.
I would kindly ask that you locate the nearest Black Friday thread and continue your thoughts there, cause this is the chop Turkeys heads off and eat them thread!
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2013, 05:14:07 AM »
My bad, Tick.  Won't happen again, buddy.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2013, 05:18:30 AM »
My bad, Tick.  Won't happen again, buddy.  :biggrin:
Thanks Heffy! :police:
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Re: The Thanksgiving Day Thread v. gooble goble!
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2013, 05:19:16 AM »
I would rather eat my own pancreas then shop on Black Friday.

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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2013, 05:20:30 AM »
I would rather eat my own pancreas then shop on Black Friday.

Gobble Gobble.
What wine would you pair that with? I'm thinking a nice Chardonnay?
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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2013, 05:21:33 AM »
My pairing would be with a strong Ale.  I'm no Nancy drinking wine.
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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2013, 05:24:18 AM »
My pairing would be with a strong Ale.  I'm no Nancy drinking wine.
Me either! I'm a hearty Sam Adams guy!
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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2013, 05:26:19 AM »
We are having 2 beers my brother and I brewed.  One is a Russian Imperial Stout 11 months since we kegged it, (The longer you wait the better) and a beer we brewed in honor of my mom a Belgian Wit.  Can't wait to share it with our family!
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« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2013, 06:17:58 AM »
Happy Turkey day DTF'ers!!!!  I'm with King....  come black friday I don't wanna leave the house  :lol

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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2013, 07:44:01 AM »
Enjoy your day, guys! :tup And remember, if you can fit in more food, you're not done yet. :biggrin:
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