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Re: DT the League 2014
« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2014, 07:15:27 AM »
Week 17 Results

Week 17-A

1.   A Change of Seasons defeats A Nightmare to Remember 28-5
2.   Enigma Machine defeats You or Me 27-5
3.   Scarred defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 25-8
4.   The Great Debate defeats Just Let Me Breathe 31-2
5.   Honor Thy Father defeats Ytse Jam 20-13
6.   The Mirror defeats Another Day 23-10
7.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Another Won 32-1
8.   Take the Time defeats Along For the Ride 31-2
9.   As I Am defeats The Silent Man 21-12
10.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Never Enough 29-4
11.   Beyond This Life defeats Lie 21-12
12.   Metropolis defeats New Millennium 29-4
13.   Finally Free defeats The Bigger Picture 25-8
14.   Misunderstood defeats Behind the Veil 19-14

Week 17-B
1.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Repentance 25-8
2.   Caught in a Web defeats Regresion 32-1
3.   Voices defeats The Enemy Inside 29-5
4.   This is the Life defeats Status Seeker 29-3
5.   The Dark Eternal Night defeats Take Away My Pain 23-10
6.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Beneath the Surface 17-15
7.   The Spirit Carries On defeats Anna Lee 31-2
8.   These Walls defeats A Rite of Passage 29-4
9.   The Root of All Evil defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 28-5
10.   Outcry defeats Raise the Knife 25-8
11.   Erotomania defeats Light Fuse and Getaway 31-2
12.   Home defeats Only a Matter of Time  30-3
13.   Breaking All Illusions defeats I Walk Beside You 32-1
14.   Learning to Live defeats In the Presence of Enemies 24-9

Week 17-C
1.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats You Not Me 34-1
2.   Wither defeats The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 29-5
3.   Eve defeats Speak to Me 26-9
4.   Illumination Theory defeats Vacant 30-5
5.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Prophets of War 35-0
6.   The Answer Lies Within defeats The Way It Used to Be 29-6
7.   Disappear defeats Don’t Look Past Me 29-6
8.   Bridges in the Sky defeats A Fortune in Lies 30-5
9.   Surrounded defeats Afterlife 29-6
10.   Lines in the Sand defeats Far From Heaven 30-4
11.   Octavarium defeats The Best of Times 34-2
12.   Hollow Years defeats To Live Forever 20-15
13.   Wait For Sleep defeats Cover My Eyes 31-3
14.   Surrender to Reason defeats Stream of Consciousness 19-17

Week 17-D
1.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Forsaken 28-9
2.   Panic Attack defeats Through Her Eyes 26-11
3.   One Last Time defeats The Killing Hand 22-15
4.   Endless Sacrifice defeats The Shattered Fortress 28-9
5.   Pull Me Under defeats 6:00 23-15
6.   On the Backs of Angels defeats Innocence Faded 26-11
7.   The Dance of Eternity defeats False Awakening Suite 31-4
8.   Overture 1928 defeats This Dying Soul 23-15
9.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Constant Motion 28-8
10.   Trial of Tears defeats Raw Dog 36-1
11.   Peruvian Skies defeats Burning My Soul 31-5
12.   The Glass Prison defeats The Looking Glass 33-4
13.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Hell’s Kitchen 19-17

Match of the Week
In the Name of God defeats Blind Faith 25-15

The standings have been updated in the original post.

Week 18 starts tomorrow.

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Re: DT the League 2014
« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2014, 07:35:09 PM »
Week 18 Results:

Week 18-A
1.   The Great Debate defeats Regression 30-2
2.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 23-9
3.   Misunderstood defeats You or Me 29-1
4.   The Root of All Evil defeats Honor Thy Father 18-14
5.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats As I Am 19-12
6.   Peruvian Skies defeats Another Won 26-5
7.   Trial of Tears defeats Along For the Ride 28-3
8.   Strange Déjà vu defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 18-14
9.   Overture 1928 defeats Lie 23-9
10.   Metropolis defeats The Dance of Eternity 29-3
11.   Finally Free defeats On the Backs of Angels 21-11
12.   6:00 defeats Repentance 27-4
13.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Endless Sacrifice 17-15
14.   The Mirror & The Glass Prison tie 16-16

Week 18-B (14)
1.   The Bigger Picture defeats One Last Time 24-6
2.   New Millennium defeats Through Her Eyes 17-13
3.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Beyond This Life 16-14
4.   Never Enough defeats  Cover My Eyes 25-5
5.   Fatal Tragedy defeats Hollow Years 27-3
6.   Octavarium defeats Another Day 25-5
7.   A Change of Seasons defeats Far From Heaven 27-3
8.   Surrounded defeats Ytse Jam 26-3
9.   Bridges in the Sky defeats Behind the Veil 20-10
10.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats Don’t Look Past Me 29-1
11.   Just Let Me Breathe defeats The Way It Used to Be 19-11
12.   Scarred defeats Prophets of War 27-3
13.   Vacant defeats Enigma Machine 20-10
14.   Take the Time defeats Surrender to Reason 22-8

Week 18-C (14)
1.   Build Me Up, Break Me Down defeats Speak to Me 18-16
2.   The Silent Man defeats The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 28-7
3.   The Looking Glass defeats You Not Me 32-3
4.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Burning My Soul 35-0
5.   Home defeats Raw Dog 32-3
6.   Erotomania defeats Constant Motion 28-7
7.   This Dying Soul defeats Outcry 18-17
8.   Learning to Live defeats False Awakening Suite 34-1
9.   Innocence Faded defeats A Rite of Passage 26-9
10.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Anna Lee 24-11
11.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats The Killing Hand 19-16
12.   Panic Attack defeats Take Away My Pain 25-10
13.   This is the Life defeats Forsaken 30-5
14.   Blind Faith defeats Pull Me Under 23-12

Week 18-D (13)
1.   Wait For Sleep defeats The Enemy Inside 17-14
2.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Caught in a Web 22-9
3.   Voices defeats To Live Forever 26-5
4.   The Best of Times defeats Status Seeker 24-7
5.   Lines in the Sand defeats The Dark Eternal Night 26-5
6.   Beneath the Surface defeats Afterlife 17-14
7.   The Spirit Carries On defeats A Fortune in Lies 20-11
8.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats I Walk Beside You 26-5
9.   These Walls defeats The Answer Lies Within 26-6
10.   Illumination Theory defeats Raise the Knife 23-8
11.   Eve defeats Light Fuse and Getaway 21-9
12.   Wither defeats Only a Matter of Time 24-7
13.   In the Name of God defeats Disappear 22-9

Match of the Week
The Count of Tuscany defeats In the Presence of Enemies 21-14

Standings have been updated in the original post.

Week 19 is underway.
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Re: DT the League 2014
« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2014, 05:59:19 PM »
Week 19 Results

Week 19-A
1.   Sacrificed Sons defeats These Walls 20-13
2.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats Through Her Eyes 27-6
3.   One Last Time defeats Raise the Knife 22-11
4.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Light Fuse and Getaway 31-2
5.   6:00 defeats Only a Matter of Time 26-7
6.   On the Backs of Angels defeats I Walk Beside You 27-6
7.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Dance of Eternity 24-9
8.   Overture 1928 defeats Wither 24-9
9.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Eve 24-9
10.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Peruvian Skies 31-2
11.   The Glass Prison defeats The Answer Lies Within 30-3
12.   As I Am defeats Disappear 18-15
13.   The Root of All Evil defeats A Fortune in Lies 26-7
14.   Trial of Tears defeats Illumination Theory 18-15


Week 19-B
1.   Afterlife defeats You or Me 31-6
2.   Lines in the Sand defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 26-11
3.   The Great Debate defeats The Best of Times 31-6
4.   Space-Dye Vest defeats To Live Forever 31-6
5.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Misunderstood 19-18
6.   Wait For Sleep defeats Honor Thy Father 23-14
7.   The Mirror defeats Panic Attack 30-7
8.   The Killing Hand defeats Another Won 30-5
9.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Pull Me Under 19-18
10.   Lie defeats Innocence Faded 21-16
11.   Metropolis defeats False Awakening Suite 37-0
12.   Finally Free defeats This Dying Soul 30-7
13.   Repentance defeats Constant Motion 19-18
14.   A Change of Seasons defeats Hell’s Kitchen 27-10

Week 19-C
1.   A Nightmare to Remember defeats Forsaken 25-8
2.   Under a Glass Moon defeats Raw Dog 31-2
3.   The Bigger Picture defeats Burning My Soul 31-2
4.   The Looking Glass defeats New Millennium 18-15
5.   Beyond This Life defeats The Silent Man 23-10
6.   Never Enough defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 21-12
7.   Take the Time defeats Enigma Machine 29-4
8.   The Shattered Fortress defeats Along for the Ride 19-14
9.   Another Day defeats Just Let Me Breathe 27-6
10.   Behind the Veil defeats Ytse Jam 27-6
11.   Erotomania defeats Regression 29-4
12.   Home defeats Outcry 26-7
13.   A Rite of Passage defeats You Not Me 29-4
14.   Scarred defeats Fatal Tragedy 17-16

Week 19-D
1.   Blind Faith defeats The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 29-3
2.   Anna Lee defeats Speak to Me 21-11
3.   Lost Not Forgotten defeats Vacant 20-12
4.   Prophets of War & Take Away My Pain tie 16-16
5.   This is the Life defeats The Way It Used to Be 30-2
6.   The Enemy Inside defeats Don’t Look Past Me 24-7
7.   Bridges in the Sky defeats Caught in a Web 24-8
8.   Far From Heaven defeats Status Seeker 27-5
9.   Octavarium defeats The Dark Eternal Night 31-1
10.   Beneath the Surface defeats Hollow Years 19-13
11.   The Spirit Carries On defeats Surrender to Reason 20-12
12.   In the Name of God defeats Cover My Eyes 31-0
13.   Voices defeats Surrounded 23-9

Match of the Week
Breaking All Illusions defeats Learning to Live 20-19


Standings will be updated after Week 20.

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« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2014, 08:51:08 AM »
Week 20 Results

Week 20-A

1.   Pull Me Under defeats Regression 32-1
2.   Innocence Faded defeats The Shattered Fortress 18-16
3.   The Killing Hand defeats False Awakening Suite 22-11
4.   This Dying Soul defeats Panic Attack 20-14
5.   Constant Motion defeats Forsaken 18-16
6.   Wait For Sleep defeats Raw Dog 28-6
7.   Stream of Consciousness defeats Burning My Soul 31-3
8.   The Looking Glass defeats To Live Forever 22-12
9.   The Best of Times & The Silent Man tie 17-17
10.   Lines in the Sand defeats Build Me Up, Break Me Down 32-2
11.   Afterlife defeats Enigma Machine 22-11
12.   Scarred defeats A Fortune in Lies 30-4
13.   Disappear defeats Just Let Me Breathe 31-3
14.   Finally Free defeats The Spirit Carries On 22-12

Week 20-B
1.   The Count of Tuscany defeats Behind the Veil 29-4
2.   Illumination Theory defeats Ytse Jam 24-9
3.   A Change of Seasons defeats Eve 29-4
4.   Another Day defeats Wither 21-12
5.   Take The Time defeats I Walk Beside You 28-5
6.   Never Enough defeats Only a Matter of Time 20-13
7.   Beyond This Life defeats Light Fuse and Getaway 30-3
8.   Raise the Knife defeats New Millennium 17-16
9.   Hell’s Kitchen defeats The Answer Lies Within 25-8
10.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats The Bigger Picture 20-13
11.   In the Name of God defeats Repentance 31-2
12.   Octavarium defeats Cover My Eyes 32-1
13.   Metropolis defeats Beneath the Surface 27-6
14.   Under a Glass Moon defeats These Walls 23-10

Week 20-C
1.   Lie defeats The Dark Eternal Night 21-11
2.   Strange Déjà vu defeats Status Seeker 29-2
3.   Voices defeats Along For the Ride 29-3
4.   Caught in a Web defeats Another Won 28-3
5.   The Mirror defeats The Enemy Inside 19-12
6.   This is the Life &  A Nightmare to Remember tie 16-16
7.   Honor Thy Father defeats Take Away My Pain 25-7
8.   Misunderstood defeats Lost Not Forgotten 21-11
9.   Space-Dye Vest defeats Anna Lee 28-4
10.   The Great Debate defeats Blind Faith 17-15
11.   Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats A Rite of Passage 26-6
12.   Learning to Live defeats You or Me 31-1
13.   Erotomania defeats As I Am 21-11
14.   Outcry defeats The Root of All Evil 17-15


Week 20-D
1.   Breaking All Illusions defeats Peruvian Skies 32-2
2.   Trial of Tears defeats You Not Me 32-2
3.   The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 28-6
4.   Overture 1928 defeats Speak to Me 27-7
5.   The Dance of Eternity defeats Vacant 21-13
6.   On the Backs of Angels defeats Prophets of War 30-4
7.   6:00 defeats The Way It Used to Be 32-2
8.   Surrender to Reason defeats Hollow Years 26-8
9.   Endless Sacrifice defeats Don’t Look Past Me 25-7
10.   Bridges in the Sky defeats One Last Time 27-6
11.   Surrounded defeats Through Her Eyes 28-5
12.   Sacrificed Sons defeats Far From Heaven 23-11
13.   Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Fatal Tragedy 20-14

Match of the Week
Home defeats The Glass Prison 23-15

The 2014 DT The League Regular Season has come to an end.

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Re: DT the League 2014
« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2014, 08:59:14 AM »
Twenty weeks have passed, and 1120 matches were decided by us. Congrats to the following songs, that finished the regular season with a record of 20-0: A Change of Seasons, Lines In the Sand, Trial of Tears, Home, Octavarium and Breaking All Illusions.

Up next, we shall have Tournaments for the 12 Albums.

Instead of going through the albums chronologically, we'll be going in order of the album's collective winning percentages (which can be seen on the Original Post of this thread), but in reverse. This means, that the schedule for album tournaments will be as follows:

1. When Dream and Day Unite (.194)
2. Systematic Chaos (.364)
3. Falling Into Infinity (.378)
4. Dream Theater (.436)
5. Black Clouds and Silver Linings (.454)
6. Octavarium (.516)
7. A Dramatic Turn of Events (.544)
8. Train of Thought (.582)
9. Scenes From a Memory (.664)
10. Awake (.680)
11. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (.779)
12. Images & Words (.813)

These tournaments will be ran two at a time. They will be single elimination and will include every song on the album, regardless of regular season record. Wins and losses in these tournaments will be added to the song's record, and the top 64 songs in terms of winning percentage will move on to the 64 Song Tournament to crown a champion for 2014.

The Tournament for WDADU will begin on Monday. The Tournament for SC will begin on Tuesday. 
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Re: DT the League 2014
« Reply #75 on: May 04, 2014, 11:45:20 AM »
Will the Independent Songs have a tournament?

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« Reply #76 on: May 04, 2014, 12:30:49 PM »
Will the Independent Songs have a tournament?

Nope. Fortunately enough, A Change of Seasons just faced Eve in Week 20. These songs would have been the top two songs in the Independent Tournament, so we have a pretty good idea of what would have happened.

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« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2014, 11:16:06 AM »
Thanks for doing this, DoC.  It really is a neat concept, and a lot of fun.
Hef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

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« Reply #78 on: May 05, 2014, 12:59:06 PM »
Thanks for doing this, DoC.  It really is a neat concept, and a lot of fun.
Seconded. It's really fun.

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« Reply #79 on: May 05, 2014, 01:37:29 PM »
Thanks for doing this, DoC.  It really is a neat concept, and a lot of fun.
Seconded. It's really fun.
Thirded.

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« Reply #80 on: May 05, 2014, 02:18:06 PM »
You're all quite welcome. This band is what brought us all together. I always felt that we could do a little better than the survivor format for their music.

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« Reply #81 on: May 06, 2014, 12:37:47 AM »
Not gonna start a quote pyramid, but Fourthed.

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« Reply #82 on: May 13, 2014, 07:39:30 PM »
When Dream & Day Unite Album Tournament Results

Opening Round
1. Afterlife defeats 8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 33-5
4. A Fortune in Lies defeats 5. Only a Matter of Time 27-11
3. The Killing Hand defeats 6. Status Seeker 34-3
2. Ytse Jam defeats 7. Light Fuse and Get Away 33-5

Semifinals
4. A Fortune in Lies defeats 1. Afterlife 23-20
3. The Killing Hand defeats 2. Ytse Jam 25-17

Championship Match
3. The Killing Hand defeats 4. A Fortune in Lies 20-17



Systematic Chaos Tournament Results

Opening Round

5. The Dark Eternal Night defeats 4. Constant Motion 22-21
3. Forsaken defeats 6. Repentance 20-19
2. The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats  7. Prophets of War 32-10

Opening Round Bye: 1. In the Presence of Enemies 

Semifinals
1. In the Presence of Enemies defeats. 5. The Dark Eternal Night 38-5
2. The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats. 3. Forsaken 30-13

Championship Match
1. In the Presence of Enemies defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 35-8


Standings have been updated on the original post. Most albums featured tiebreakers.... still have a few more to go.

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« Reply #83 on: May 20, 2014, 06:42:16 PM »
All tiebreakers have been factored in for the regular season standings.  Final song records will be updated as the tournaments end.

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« Reply #84 on: May 24, 2014, 05:56:59 AM »
Hold up, hold up. I've not been participating in this, but I just saw something that made my jaw drop.

38 people prefer In the Presence of Enemies to The Dark Eternal Night?!

Jeeeeeesus! I'm not into shaming or dismissing people for having different opinions, but I really didn't know ItPoE was that highly regarded, and I thought The Dark Eternal Night was decently popular even with people who don't tend to like the rest of Systematic Chaos. That's not, "Your opinion is different to my opinion and it's bad," it's "I really do not have as clear a pulse on this message board as I thought I did." I'm also a bit surprised it beat The Bigger Picture. I don't hate In the Presence of Enemies or anything, I think Pt. 1 is easily top ten stuff, but I really did not see it as that level of juggernaut.

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« Reply #85 on: May 24, 2014, 09:25:32 AM »
I think a lot of its reputation is based purely on its length. At 25 minutes, it's spoken of among the "epics", the likes of ACOS and 8VM purely by default. But (imo) it can't hold a candle to those masterpieces.

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« Reply #86 on: May 25, 2014, 12:22:41 PM »
Falling Into Infinity Album Tournament.
https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=453864

Opening Round
8. Anna Lee defeats 9. Take Away My Pain 22-20
6. New Millennium defeats 11. Burning My Soul 32-11
7. Just Let Me Breathe defeats 10. You Not Me 32-10

Opening Round Bye: 1. Trial of Tears, 2. Lines in the Sand, 3. Hell’s Kitchen, 4. Peruvian Skies, 5. Hollow Years

Quarterfinals
1. Trial of Tears defeats 8. Anna Lee 39-2
4. Peruvian Skies defeats 5. Hollow Years 33-9
3. Hell’s Kitchen defeats 6. New Millennium 34-8
2. Lines in the Sand defeats 7. Just Let Me Breathe 41-1

Semifinals
1. Trial of Tears defeats 4. Peruvian Skies 34-4
2. Lines in the Sand defeats 3. Hell’s Kitchen 26-12

Championship Match
1. Trial of Tears defeats  2. Lines in the Sand  27-14


Dream Theater Album Tournament.
https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=453864

Opening Round
8. Enigma Machine defeats 9. False Awakening Suite 22-17

Opening Round Bye: 1. Illumination Theory, 2. Surrender to Reason, 3. The Enemy Inside, 4. Behind the Veil, 5. The Bigger Picture, 6. Along For the Ride, 7. The Looking Glass


Quarterfinals
1. Illumination Theory defeats 8. Enigma Machine 35-4
5. The Bigger Picture defeats 4. Behind the Veil 28-12
3. The Enemy Inside defeats 6. Along For the Ride 25-14
2. Surrender to Reason defeats 7. The Looking Glass 24-14

Semifinals
1. Illumination Theory defeats 5. The Bigger Picture 21-18
2. Surrender to Reasons defeats 3. The Enemy Inside 24-15

Championship Match
1.   Illumination Theory defeats 2. Surrender to Reason 24-19

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« Reply #87 on: May 26, 2014, 08:56:10 AM »
I think a lot of its reputation is based purely on its length. At 25 minutes, it's spoken of among the "epics", the likes of ACOS and 8VM purely by default. But (imo) it can't hold a candle to those masterpieces.

Personally, I can't get enough of In the Presence of Enemies... it has everything IMHO. And I love the lyrics too...

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« Reply #88 on: May 29, 2014, 02:48:40 PM »
Black Clouds & Silver Linings Album Tournament
https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=453864

Opening Round
4. The Shattered Fortress defeats 5. Wither 24-23
3. The Best of Times defeats 6. A Rite of Passage 32-14

Opening Round Bye: 1. The Count of Tuscany, 2. A Nightmare to Remember.

Semifinals
1. The Count of Tuscany defeats 4. The Shattered Fortress 43-2
2. A Nightmare to Remember defeats 3. The Best of Times 34-11

Championship Match
1. The Count of Tuscany defeats 2. A Nightmare to Remember 38-2



Octavarium Album Tournament
https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=453864

Opening Round
1. Octavarium defeats 8. The Answer Lies Within 42-4
4. These Walls defeats 5. Panic Attack 32-14
3. The Root of All Evil defeats 6. Never Enough 39-8
2. Sacrificed Sons defeats 7. I Walk Beside You 37-8

Semifinals
1. Octavarium defeats 4. These Walls 32-7
3. The Root of All Evil defeats 2. Sacrificed Sons 20-19

Championship Match
1. Octavarium defeats 3. The Root of All Evil  39-6

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« Reply #89 on: May 30, 2014, 01:53:21 AM »
Most of the championship matches have been absolute hammerings by the #1 seed. Shows how far ahead they are, even compared to the next-"best" songs.

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« Reply #90 on: May 30, 2014, 04:43:08 AM »
Hold up, hold up. I've not been participating in this, but I just saw something that made my jaw drop.

38 people prefer In the Presence of Enemies to The Dark Eternal Night?!

Jeeeeeesus! I'm not into shaming or dismissing people for having different opinions, but I really didn't know ItPoE was that highly regarded, and I thought The Dark Eternal Night was decently popular even with people who don't tend to like the rest of Systematic Chaos. That's not, "Your opinion is different to my opinion and it's bad," it's "I really do not have as clear a pulse on this message board as I thought I did." I'm also a bit surprised it beat The Bigger Picture. I don't hate In the Presence of Enemies or anything, I think Pt. 1 is easily top ten stuff, but I really did not see it as that level of juggernaut.
That's funny, it turned out pretty much exactly how I thought it would.

Besides, TDEK is fairly highly regarded - in that the people who like it REALLY like it.  But I rarely hear anyone say that it's the best song from the album.
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« Reply #91 on: May 30, 2014, 02:18:29 PM »
38:5, though - that's a hammering. I thought the board would have had it as one of the more popular songs off Systematic Chaos set against one of the more flawed epics. Tall man against a short giant. I think I'd probably have expected ItPoE to win on balance, but I'd also have expected it to be bloody close.

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« Reply #92 on: May 30, 2014, 02:34:44 PM »
Last year's score:   1.   In the Presence of Enemies defeats. 5. The Dark Eternal Night 29-7

ItPoE is without question the most universally liked song on the album. Of course there are exceptions, but this result doesn't surprise me at all. Their seeding and records in the past two years only solidifies this.

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« Reply #93 on: May 31, 2014, 02:36:14 AM »
ITPOE is my favourite song from DT, though. Probably has to do with SC being the first album I've heard, but anyway.

TDEN is, by my experience, quite a polarizing song. There are people who love that side of DT, and there are people who hate it with passion, claiming it to be in their bottom five. All the while ITPOE is generally regarded as best song on SC, mostly thanks to the first part. I think it was predictable enough, though I agree 38:5 may be a bit too much, I expected it to be like 33:10 at least.
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« Reply #94 on: May 31, 2014, 10:17:07 AM »
Generally regarded as the best song on a not-so-highly regarded album. The fact we had the SC tournament 2nd here testifies to that.

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« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2014, 04:07:23 AM »
38:5, though - that's a hammering. I thought the board would have had it as one of the more popular songs off Systematic Chaos set against one of the more flawed epics.
I'd say that is accurate.  But while TDEK is definitely one of the more popular songs from that album, ITPOE is the most popular, however flawed it may be.
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« Reply #96 on: June 03, 2014, 06:39:56 PM »
A Dramatic Turn of Events Album Tournament
https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=453864


Opening Round
8. Far From Heaven defeats 9. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 28-18

Opening Round Bye: 1. Breaking All Illusions, 2. Bridges in the Sky, 3. Outcry, 4. On the Backs of Angels, 5. This is the Life, 6. Lost Not Forgotten, 7. Beneath the Surface

Quarterfinals
1. Breaking All Illusions defeats 8. Far From Heaven 42-1
4. On the Backs of Angels defeats 5. This is the Life 22-21
3. Outcry defeats 6. Lost Not Forgotten 23-20
2. Bridges in the Sky defeats 7. Beneath the Surface 34-9

Semifinals
1. Breaking All Illusions defeats 4. On the Backs of Angels 41-2
2. Bridges in the Sky defeats 3. Outcry 34-9

Championship
1. Breaking All Illusions defeats 2. Bridges in the Sky 38-10



Train of Thought Album Tournament
https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=453864


Opening Round
4. This Dying Soul defeats 5. Honor Thy Father 31-15
3. Endless Sacrifice defeats 6. As I Am 32-15
2. Stream of Consciousness defeats 7. Vacant 36-11

Opening Round Bye: 1. In the Name of God

Semifinals
1. In the Name of God defeats 4. This Dying Soul 38-10
3. Endless Sacrifice defeats 2. Stream of Consciousness 26-22

Championship Match
1. In the Name of God defeats 3. Endless Sacrifice 36-10

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Re: DT the League 2014
« Reply #97 on: June 04, 2014, 02:59:28 PM »
I notice that some of the tournaments are labelled "[Album] Tournament", and some are "[Album] Album Survivor". Is there a reason for this?

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« Reply #98 on: June 05, 2014, 03:28:24 AM »
I notice that some of the tournaments are labelled "[Album] Tournament", and some are "[Album] Album Survivor". Is there a reason for this?

Any time I used "survivor" was in error. Not sure why I did this.

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« Reply #99 on: June 05, 2014, 10:11:54 AM »
Winger would be better!

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« Reply #100 on: June 05, 2014, 05:51:26 PM »
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« Reply #101 on: June 14, 2014, 09:36:52 PM »
Scenes From a Memory Album Tournament


Opening Round
9. The Dance of Eternity defeats 8. One Last Time 26-21
6. Beyond This Life defeats 11. Regression 42-5
7. Strange Déjà vu defeats 10. Through Her Eyes 36-12

Opening Round Bye: 1. Home, 2. Fatal Tragedy 3. Finally Free 4. The Spirit Carries On 5. Overture 1928

Quarterfinals
1. Home defeats 9. The Dance of Eternity 35-9
4. The Spirit Carries On defeats 5. Overture 1928 25-19
3. Finally Free defeats 6. Beyond This Life 33-10
2. Fatal Tragedy defeats 7. Strange Déjà vu 34-11

Semifinals
1. Home defeats 4. The Spirit Carries On 32-14
3. Finally Free defeats 2. Fatal Tragedy 28-18

Championship
1.   Home defeats 3. Finally Free  26-20



Awake Album Tournament

Opening Round
9. Erotomania defeats 8. Innocence Faded 29-16
6. Caught in a Web defeats 11. The Silent Man 32-16
10. Lifting Shadows off a Dream defeats 7. Lie 24-23

Opening Round Bye: 1. Voices, 2. Scarred, 3. The Mirror, 4. Space-Dye Vest, 5. 6:00


Quarterfinals
1. Voices defeats 9. Erotomania 33-8
4. Space-Dye Vest defeats 5. 6:00 33-8
3. The Mirror defeats 6. Caught in a Web 33-8
2. Scarred defeats 7. Lifting Shadows off a Dream 33-8

Semifinals
1.   Voices defeats 4. Space-Dye Vest 28-18
2.   Scarred defeats 3. The Mirror 31-15


Championship Match
2. Scarred   defeats 1. Voices 24-15

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Re: DT the League 2014
« Reply #102 on: June 20, 2014, 02:45:30 PM »
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence Album Tournament Results

Opening Round
4. Disappear defeats. 5. The Great Debate 24-23
3. The Glass Prison defeats 6. Misunderstood 32-14

Opening Round Bye: 1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 2. Blind Faith

Semifinals
1.  Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats 4. Disappear 30-12
2. Blind Faith defeats 3. The Glass Prison 24-19


Championship
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats 2. Blind Faith 25-21



Images & Words Album Tournament


Opening Round
1. Learning to Live defeats 8. Another Day 35-5
4. Under a Glass Moon defeats 5. Pull Me Under 27-13
3. Metropolis defeats 6. Surrounded 27-13
2. Take the Time defeats 7. Wait For Sleep 26-14

Semifinals
1.  Learning to Live defeats 4. Under a Glass Moon 41-6
3. Metropolis defeats 2. Take the Time 28-19

Championship
1. Learning to Live defeats 3. Metropolis 28-14




Album Tournament is next.

The 2014 DT Tournament will begin soon.

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« Reply #103 on: June 20, 2014, 07:26:04 PM »
Lost Not Forgotten finished in 65th place, meaning that it won't make the final tournament. That makes me  :-[ . I  :heart LNF!

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« Reply #104 on: June 20, 2014, 07:33:47 PM »
Tiebreakers for 3 or more songs for the end of season 64 Song Tournament will be A. Best Head to Head Record against all tied songs. B. Album Champion  C. Strength of Victory D. Strength of Schedule E. Point Differential. Once this group is narrowed down to two songs, the tiebreakers for the two songs apply.


It would take a long time for me to work out all of the tiebreakers, so I will use an online random number program to seed songs with the same winning percentage.

Edit* Well that worked out great. It isn't possible for any one of the top 32 songs to run into another song in the top 32 that's from the same album. Also, this only resulted in one case where working out the tiebreakers might have changed the seeding (an instance where two songs ended up as the last two "7" seeds and a third song ended up as the top "8" seed.
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