JP Live tone at luna park

[shredding]

Being mixed loud aside, do you guys find the tone better than any live recordings they have done before? Sound like he has got that growl back.

[RaiseTheKnife]

The chorus effect is a bit much to be used in all the songs, but its still quite enjoyable and crunchy.  I'm just worried that years from now we will hear his live tone for this DVD and it will sound very dated.

[mikeyd23]

Overall, I liked his tone, really nice and heavy and gritty.  I posted previously in another thread, that if he was a little further back in the mix with the other instruments, I think the chorus/delay effects would make a little more sense.  For example, I'm pretty sure he was using about the same amount of chorus and delay sounds in Score, but they seem to fit better in the content of the band because the guitar in general is sitting back in the mix blended with the group a little better.  LaLP just takes his tone and puts it very much in front.  As a guitar player, I like to hear a lot of guitar so it doesn't really bother me most of the time during the DVD.

Also, I thought his lead sounds on LaLP were really, really nice. I don't think I've seen anyone mention that, but all his leads really sing! 

[kirksnosehair]

Way too much Chorus on the guitar.  WAY too much. 

[Prog Snob]

Way too much Chorus on the guitar.  WAY too much.

This.

I liked his sound on Score a bit better.  He wasn't as out in front on Score either. 

[OsMosis2259]

Agreed.
On Score it was further back in the mix and blended great with the other instruments. 

[Podaar]

Way too much Chorus on the guitar.  WAY too much.

I have to agree. It's nearing the point of sounding very synthesized ala Pat Travers. I'm not a fan of the tone but his performance was still very rocking!

Also, I thought his lead sounds on LaLP were really, really nice. I don't think I've seen anyone mention that, but all his leads really sing! 

I also must agree with this. 

[PixelDream]

If I remember correctly, his tone on LSFNY was pretty amazing. And compare TSCO (Score) to TSCO (Luna Park), his lead sound seems thin on the latter. It's still miles away from bad tone though.

[Cable]

If I remember correctly, his tone on LSFNY was pretty amazing. And compare TSCO (Score) to TSCO (Luna Park), his lead sound seems thin on the latter. It's still miles away from bad tone though.

Agreed. And even though I am critical of the tone, it is still indeed very good.

I think his tone has basically peaked since around the 8V tour. I say this as a Rectifier fan, so I'm biased towards the ToT tour, and more specifically the tone on WDADRU (loved it).

There was something a little off to me with LFSNY rhythm tone, but for the sake of JM being mixed a lot higher, and without any over-saturated effect rhythm tone I loved it much more than now. CiM and LP are very similar to me; too thin and effects laden too often.

[rumborak]

That was the first thing I noticed on LALP, that the guitar sound wasn't all that good. So yeah, he's had better.

[1neeto]

The delay is fine, but I also agree that there was way too much chorus. Very 80's.

[sfam2112]

I liked his sound on Score a bit better.  He wasn't as out in front on Score either.

In my opinion, I think his tone is better on the Luna Park (and CiM) DVD. More crunch to it. I feel it was rather thin on Score. Specifically the opening riffs in Raise The Knife and About To Crash reprise. Didn't have as much punch to them as the studio versions.

[BlobVanDam]

Budokan has my favourite JP guitar tone. His tone on Score and LALP is a bit trebly, I think due to the chorusy effect, so I don't like it as much as his Budokan tone, but I still have no problem with it.

[PixelDream]

Probably not worth starting a new thread about it, but since this is a bit of a related subject:

What's his best album tone?

I'm thinking 'Awake', followed by 'Six Degrees'. The good, open sounding rock tone award should go to 'Falling Into Infinity', but that's not the JP tone he's really known for.

[Sycsa]

Probably not worth starting a new thread about it, but since this is a bit of a related subject:

What's his best album tone?

I'm thinking 'Awake', followed by 'Six Degrees'. The good, open sounding rock tone award should go to 'Falling Into Infinity', but that's not the JP tone he's really known for.

I think that would be an interesting thread. If anything, Awake is probably my least favorite of all, I don't like that overly distorted guitar tone. The Mirror & Lie just sound so thin and ugly to my ears, not a characteristic DT sound at all. Other than that, JP's tone is great everywhere. DT12 lived up to the whole chocolate cake hype, FII and SDOIT are highlights indeed (About to Crash Reprise - ), Budokan is his best live tone hands off and I also really liked his solo tone for ADTOE (LNF - so juicy).

[Kotowboy]

I love the intro to About To Crash Reprise - that's the sound of a *perfectly* intonanted guitar that would sound awful on most other guitars that aren't perfectly in tune

[shredding]

I liked his sound on Score a bit better.  He wasn't as out in front on Score either.

In my opinion, I think his tone is better on the Luna Park (and CiM) DVD. More crunch to it. I feel it was rather thin on Score. Specifically the opening riffs in Raise The Knife and About To Crash reprise. Didn't have as much punch to them as the studio versions.

I will have to agree with this. I think he had that crunch back finally. Budokan on the other hand is way too loose for me. I like the tight sound of Marks v.s. the loose rectifier sound.

[shredding]

I also don't know what most guys here mean by "thin". I just did a side by side comparison of spirit carries on solo between LP and score and LP's solo tone sounds thicker. Now if you mean the rhythm tone, LP's rhythm tone is much tighter than Budokan b/c it's a mark v not a roadking or rectifier. But I won't use the word "thin" to describe a tight tone v.s. a recto's loose tone.