2014 Setlist Predictions Thread

[TheAtliator]

I would SO MUCH rather it be Awake, but SFAM would be AWESOME!!!

[cyberdrummer]

What with JP's recent comments regarding SDV, I think Awake in full will have to wait.

[TheAtliator]

The only thing is SFAM has already been played in full on two tours. Plus I love the Awake album more.

[theseoafs]

Hearing SFAM in full would be awesome.  If they decide to go through with that, I hope it's not a one-night-only thing.

Honestly, I'd be an extremely happy camper if they played DT12 in one set and SFAM in the other.  That would be incredible.  The encore could be You Not Me and it would still have one of the best setlists I'm likely to ever see at a live show.

[RaiseTheKnife]

The only thing is SFAM has already been played in full on two tours. Plus I love the Awake album more.

Agree 100%.  This is re-treaded territory.  Sorry to the late comers, but it just wouldn't be special to those who have already seen it on those tours (5 times!!). 

[theseoafs]

Believe it or not, the primary purpose of a band is NOT to make things special for one particular group of people. 

[TheAtliator]

I wasn't a DT fan until 2011 and I said that... BOOM haha


Seriously though, it would be incredibly special if I got to see SFAM. Just MORE special if it was Awake. As in "incredibly special" against "ridiculously extremely special".

[JayOctavarium]

what about both?

Especially Special?

[TheAtliator]

Quite. I would TOTALLY want that. I love really random and crazy set lists. Weird flows are absolutely no problem for me. Although I enjoy great flows too, don't get me wrong.

[aprilethereal]

I'll say it again, DT12 as the first set, SFAM as the second and Octavarium (song) as an encore would be the greatest show ever

[JayOctavarium]

Make it ACOS and I would be happier. Believe it or not.

[aprilethereal]

Let's change it to Space-Dye Vest + 8VM

[MoraWintersoul]

I'm really re-thinking seeing them this tour, like I said here:

I'm just sitting here thinking that whether or not I like this album will decide whether or not I go see them this first leg of the tour. I mean, I already dislike the major part of everything they did from and including Octavarium up to this point, so that's legitimately almost half of the setlist, add another album they'll be promoting that I'm not sold on and it'll probably be pointless to travel to another country (even if it's relatively close and I get to meet DTFers and I technically speak the language ) and give up a shitload of other shows in this period just to see them.

Even if they do play for three hours or play LTL or SDV or whatever, they've been straying from what I like to listen to since before I even started listening to them, at some point you gotta admit a band and you are going separate ways.

Since I'm not really crazy about the new album, and they'll likely be playing it safer with the setlist than I'd like them to, I'm questioning it. They probably won't be doing the SFAM thing in Europe, and they probably won't do anything related to Awake at all, unless they play a show around the album anniversary, which is in October. SDV won't be dug up on this tour, even though the time is perfect, and neither will any song that doesn't get the crowd pumped up. Which is understandable, since they've written many live-show-ready songs over the years, they might as well just do those... but that's just one side of the DT I love.

[?]

I've already bought a ticket, so it's too late for me to regret







Just kidding... The new album isn't fantastic, but they only come here every 2 years and it's an evening with DT, so I bet I would regret not going afterwards. I know they'll play my least favorite songs, because those are the single, the instrumental and the epic, so they might as well play the whole album. Hopefully the songs I'm not crazy about will sound better at the show...

[aprilethereal]

The new album isn't fantastic

...in your opinion. I'm pretty sure it will eventually replace ADTOE as my #5, maybe even Awake as #4.

[?]

The new album isn't fantastic

...in your opinion.

Yes, but my opinions are facts

[aprilethereal]

The new album isn't fantastic

...in your opinion.

Yes, but my opinions are facts

As are mine

[Fronobulax]

Was watching when dream and day reunite the other day and it occurred to me that they could possibly play it in full this tour seeing as it would be very close to its 25th anniversary and it was last played in full on its 15th anniversary. (would much rather prefer awake or SFAM though)

[?]

I'd love to see a WDADU anniversary show, but it won't happen because the band aren't extremely proud of that album and it's kind of unknown to many fans. Besides, the band didn't play I&W in full last year even though it was the 20th anniversary of that album and judging by JP's comments we won't see Space-Dye Vest live soon, so I think SFAM is the only album with the potential of an anniversary show.

[GasparXR]

I'd love to see a WDADU anniversary show, but it won't happen because the band aren't extremely proud of that album and it's kind of unknown to many fans. Besides, the band didn't play I&W in full last year even though it was the 20th anniversary of that album and judging by JP's comments we won't see Space-Dye Vest live soon, so I think SFAM is the only album with the potential of an anniversary show.

They did, on the date of I&W's release, play some extra songs from I&W during the encore. I'd say this is a more likely scenario, even if it's across the tour, where they play a select few songs from Awake and/or SFAM.

[?]

They did, on the date of I&W's release, play some extra songs from I&W during the encore. I'd say this is a more likely scenario, even if it's across the tour, where they play a select few songs from Awake and/or SFAM.

I know, but Fronobulax was talking about playing albums in full. Anyway, it seems that MP was more into these nostalgia events than the rest of the band and I remember Setlist Scotty (or someone else with connections to the band) saying they reminded JP of the I&W anniversary.

[FrostbiteZ]

I'll say it again, DT12 as the first set, SFAM as the second and Octavarium (song) as an encore would be the greatest show ever

agree

[TheAtliator]

Now that I've heard the album-


*No intro tape or anything. Just pitch black and the band walks out; if you have good eyesight, you might be able to see them, but no lights until they start. Mangini counts to four and...*
1. False Awakening Suite (I'm imagining the lights flashing on stage to the rhythm of the intro while they play )
2. The Enemy Inside
3. The Looking Glass
-JLB says hi
4. Take The Time
5. This Dying Soul
6. Enigma Machine
7. The Bigger Picture
8. Piano solo/ About To Crash
9. Constant Motion
-JLB talks again with soft soothing voice while JR improvs softly
10. Far From Heaven
11. Vacant
12. The Killing Hand

--Intermission--

13. Behind The Veil
14. Surrender to Reason
15. On the Backs of Angels
16. Raw Dog/ (end with the main abrupt rhythm thing, pause a second and go into-)
17. Strange Deja Vu
18. I Walk Beside You (with heartbeat and ticking intro)
-JLB introduces AFTR
19. Along For The Ride
20. Illumination Theory

21. 6:00
22. Learning to Live


about 2hr 45 min + 15 minute intermission (if I added it up right).

[GasparXR]

Raw Dog into Strange Deja Vu wouldn't work that quickly because of totally different guitar/bass tunings. If they actually perform FAS, that might be the case as well unless JP/JM switch their instruments quickly.

[JayOctavarium]

Change RawDog/ Strange DV into Overture 1928/SDV and 6:00 to Wait For Sleep and I'll be hooked


(Mind you I love 6:00 and don't mind RawDog... i just think it would flow better this way)

[TheAtliator]

Raw Dog into Strange Deja Vu wouldn't work that quickly because of totally different guitar/bass tunings. If they actually perform FAS, that might be the case as well unless JP/JM switch their instruments quickly.

Oh I didn't think about that  Yea I guess just they switch quickly and the transition takes as long as it takes. Or actually, can a 6 stg song be played on a 7 stg? Or do you literally mean tuning like drop D or something?

Change RawDog/ Strange DV into Overture 1928/SDV and 6:00 to Wait For Sleep and I'll be hooked

Naah, I like this way  Raw Dog and 6:00 more exciting in the context of this set (key words "in context". The main reason I'm terrible at rating DT songs and albums).

[GasparXR]

Raw Dog into Strange Deja Vu wouldn't work that quickly because of totally different guitar/bass tunings. If they actually perform FAS, that might be the case as well unless JP/JM switch their instruments quickly.

Oh I didn't think about that  Yea I guess just they switch quickly and the transition takes as long as it takes. Or actually, can a 6 stg song be played on a 7 stg? Or do you literally mean tuning like drop D or something?

Change RawDog/ Strange DV into Overture 1928/SDV and 6:00 to Wait For Sleep and I'll be hooked

Naah, I like this way  Raw Dog and 6:00 more exciting in the context of this set (key words "in context". The main reason I'm terrible at rating DT songs and albums).

Well, not only is Raw Dog on a 7-string, but it's ALSO tuned down to A. So they would have to physically switch instruments.

[Nofire]

This might be considered blasphemy around here, but i REALLY hope they don't do SFAM in its entirety when I see them in Stockholm, or any other album for that matter. I'm not a big fan of the "play a whole album" format, unless it's a full stage production of The Wall, which is so much more than just the music. For me, it shuts the door to hearing songs that I like more, especially if they are going to cram a bunch of new songs in there as well.

As for what I would like to hear instead:

TGP (to start the second set)
Home
LTL (would be an amazing encore)
8VM
ACOS (although I can't see it happening if they also do 8VM, and maybe neither will fit in since I'm sure they'll play IT)
LSOAD

[?]

I'd be surprised if they played SFAM in full, because that would take the attention away from the new album, which DT are supposed to promote. That said, I think it's possible that there could be a second leg dedicated to the SFAM anniversary later in 2014.

[wasteland]

I'd be surprised if they played SFAM in full, because that would take the attention away from the new album, which DT are supposed to promote. That said, I think it's possible that there could be a second leg dedicated to the SFAM anniversary later in 2014.

My thoughts as well. I'm not expecting anything (and I'm glad of it) for the first couple of world legs.

[cyberdrummer]

I don't think there'll even be a full leg for SFAM. I think a few special shows in the usual big cities could well happen though.

[wasteland]

I don't think there'll even be a full leg for SFAM. I think a few special shows in the usual big cities could well happen though.

But those would be on second nights, right? There are no second nights in the EU leg.

[cyberdrummer]

Well I was thinking a few shows within the space of a couple of weeks, after the main legs of the tour had taken place.

[Progmetty]

Fellas fellas fellas..
I love this discussion.

[cyberdrummer]

I love pointless tour discussion.