Use of explicit language at DTF

[KevShmev]

I've never noticed the language around here being off the charts bad or anything, and I am gonna have to agree with the sentiment that if your work might have a problem with it, then don't browse this site when at work.  Or do it on your phone like it seems so many these days.

Edit: And I say that as someone who rarely curses (here or in real life).  In fact, I often joke that 95% of my cursing is when I am quoting movies.

[lonestar]

Hmmm, I'm just gonna stay the f**k out of this thread...

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

 

[El Barto]

I honestly don't recall what my nickname for Dez was, but if it was what it would be today, it'd be your f-bomb preceded by dumb. I'm pretty set on what he is now. My guess is that the filter looks for whole words, not compound uses. Maybe I can send a list of every possible compound form of it to Bosk's office so he can start adding them in one by one. 

As for my usage of language, I figure I'm probably one of the biggest offenders. The thing is, I write exactly as I think or speak. I will occasionally (probably more often that you think) decide that I've used too much profanity in a post and then go back to do some creative editing, but to be honest, changing my entire writing style probably wouldn't benefit anybody. And don't take this as me not being sympathetic to your cause; I certainly am. It's more about me being happy with my writing style as is.

[lonestar]

I'm with Barto on this. Obviously my workplace isn't very PC(Politically correct, not the DTFer), and that style pretty much follows me everywhere except at Mom's house.

[kirksnosehair]

heh, my 70 year old Mom drops more f-bombs than I do! 


Anyway, I guess I won't change my avatar to this.

[lonestar]

Obligatory for this thread.......(NSFW) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXk9EPxZw48

[King Postwhore]

At work I try not to and on Facebook with my friends kids on there but I let a little loose on DTF.

[snapple]

I've never noticed the language around here being off the charts bad or anything, and I am gonna have to agree with the sentiment that if your work might have a problem with it, then don't browse this site when at work.  Or do it on your phone like it seems so many these days.

QFT

[Perpetual Change]

I've never noticed the language around here being off the charts bad or anything, and I am gonna have to agree with the sentiment that if your work might have a problem with it, then don't browse this site when at work.  Or do it on your phone like it seems so many these days.

Yeah, I know. For the record, I wouldn't feel like I had something to hide if someone from IT called me at work and asked me about DTF. At the same time, bringing up a filter screen for "Adult Material" is unsettling, and makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong, even though I'm not violating company policy or anything like that.

As far as using the phone, I should reaffirm that I'd love to see DTF compatible with tapatalk one day, and would definitely be willing to make a modest donation toward any effort to get the forum compatible with it: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=27566.0

[Phoenix87x]

Obligatory for this thread.......(NSFW) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXk9EPxZw48

Greatest word in the english language.

[bout to crash]

I browse the internets while working too so I sorta feel your pain, but I'll be honest: the first phrase that popped into my head while reading the OP was "Tough shit." 

Not trying to be mean, it's just not something that is going to change or should be expected to change.

When I'm not working, swear words are as common in my vocabulary as anything else. They're just words, and I believe these words are given way too much weight and taken too seriously by society. In other words, your work filter needs to chill the fuck out 

Btw, I think it's hilarious that thanks to a few others and now me, you probably won't be able to read your own thread at work.

[El Barto]

Btw, I think it's hilarious that thanks to a few others and now me, you probably won't be able to read your own thread at work.

Yeah, I definitely considered that in my reply, but since I seemed to be the impetus for the thread in the first place I figured I'd play nice this time around. 

[bout to crash]

Yeah, I had originally intended to keep my reply clean, but when I saw others doing it I figured the thread was fucked already anyway so I might as well be myself 

[Perpetual Change]

Yup. It is

For the record, most swear words don't really set the filters off. However, most which derive from a sexual thing do, so f--- or c--- or calling someone a d--- do.

It may seem like I'm whining or something. I hope not. Until I made this thread, there was no way I could have known that others weren't having the same issues. Since only one person has come forward mentioning they have similar issues, I obviously don't expect the forum change just because myself and a handful of others would prefer it.

It will probably mean that I browse less from work, though. Which will mean a lot less in total. Again, while the forum itself is nothing I'd feel ashamed of or anything I believe violates company policy, being flagged for trying to access "adult material", even if it's just an automated thing that never results in any follow-up, is just not something I'm comfortable with. 

Honestly, my company's IT is a bit paranoid. My supervisor and I were just talking about how incredible they are. Sometimes, we can't even access news sites where articles relevant to our business are posted - because there's another article on the site which is about something sexual. We have a good laugh about how it inhibits our business, and then move on.

[pogoowner]

I think that's just sort of the nature of those types of filters. It's kind of an all or nothing thing, because if it was somehow scaled back, it would no longer be remotely effective. That's how it always seemed to me anyway, and I've dealt with a few in the past.

[Ħ]

You can say, "Tough, that's just how the internet is," but in light of how simple the solution is, such a response is unwarranted. A simple option to toggle censor on/off option will make everyone happy and hurts no one.

[Neon]

I was raised in a family of "potty mouths" and F-Bombs etc, are so commonplace to me that honestly I don't even really notice when other people speak/type them. 

Regarding filters:  I used to post on the Philadelphia Eagles message board very frequently, and the filters over there were super strict.  I never changed my posting style over it, but my finished products were always laced with "F***" and "S***," which to me is more annoying and more obvious than if the actual words were just visible...I mean it's not like you can't tell what was being said anyway.  Sometimes I do go back and edit myself but it's more for proofreading/clarity/redundancy purposes than trying to "watch my mouth."

If you guys decide filters are the way to go, I'm not going to stop posting here, nor am I going to change my posting style.  But I just think it's a little corny to be honest.  We're all adults here- seeing a couple of F-Bombs scattered throughout the day shouldn't be that big of a deal- maybe just stay off this particular site while at work?  (I never come on this site during work hours either )

[bosk1]

We have a filter already.  Again, I will try to make it a bit more comprehensive about what it picks up if that will help people out.  But it's up to individual users to turn it on or off in your own profile settings.

Interestingly, I'm in a workplace where words don't trigger anything.  Given that most of what we do involves investigating workplace misconduct, we are sometimes exposed to some VERY explicit things.  There is even the occasional instance of people viewing or sending porn at work, so if our filters flagged every time those words came up, most of us would get flagged several times a week, if not more. 

[El Barto]

You can say, "Tough, that's just how the internet is," but in light of how simple the solution is, such a response is unwarranted. A simple option to toggle censor on/off option will make everyone happy and hurts no one.

But there is such a thing??? I keep mine turned off (for obvious reasons), but it took me 20 seconds to find it's location. Hell, we even occasionally get posts on the matter from people confused by Smiled In My Pants references.    I understand that the filter might not be particularly good, but that's something Bosk said he would look into.

edit: ninja'd by Bosk, quite thoroughly.

[Dr. DTVT]

Dang,  Bosk get paid to look at porn.

PC, FWIW, I think you brought up the subject the best way anyone could, and you did it without whining or making an ass of yourself.  It's a good convo to have.  I'm just thankful I have the freedom to do what I want in my office, I guess it is a perk for being woefully underpaid for my level of expertise.

[bosk1]

Dang,  Bosk get paid to look at porn.

  Doesn't everybody?

[BlobVanDam]

Dang,  Bosk get paid to look at porn.

  Doesn't everybody?

Well there are people like Zydar who get paid to be porn. The rest of us have to settle with just looking at it, I suppose.

[bout to crash]

 

[cramx3]

The solution for PC is to just use you phone. That's what I do. I don't need my work to know what sites I am surfing plus if your company let's you surf the web I'm sure they would let you use your phone.

As for the overall feel of cursing... I see lots of cursing here but rarely if ever do I see something that is crossing the line so I don't see why anything should change.

[King Postwhore]

Dang,  Bosk get paid to look at porn.

  Doesn't everybody?

Well there are people like Zydar who get paid to be porn. The rest of us have to settle with just looking at it, I suppose.

We need a slogan.

Zy, when porn isn't enough.

[bosk1]

I'm not sure why people keep saying this like this:

...I don't see why anything should change.

Nothing in the original post or any subsequent comments from any mod ever ask for or suggest that things will change.  This is a discussion.  Where are you people getting this from?

[King Postwhore]

Right bosk1, I don't #$^&#$% know where?!

[Ben_Jamin]

I know I've been guilty of cursing on here, but its how I converse on the outside as well. Hell, I'm worse outside this forum.

I'm in the camp of using your phone. Although I undertand why you don't cause typing long replies is time consuming.

[jingle.boy]

I second Mason's compliment of how PC brought this up. 

For the most part, I work from home (when I'm not traveling), so I'm on my personal laptop.  However, for the rare times I am at an office of ours, I have occasionally been filtered out of some threads, and thought

Improving the site's filter capabilities seems to be the best option.  I don't see it being enough of a problem across the board that a few hundred (regular) posters should/need to adjust their style for the few situations where it's a problem.

And it is the most versatile word in the English language.

[lonestar]

The filters at my hotel are a joke. No Facebook, no Twitter, but pretty much everything else is accessable. We only have one IT guy, and I know he is way too busy fixing all our archaic shit to worry about anyone looking at anything unsavory. One look at my boss's browsing history is certain confirmation of that. (he isn't too savvy with computers, and doesn't clear it lol)

[Prog Snob]

The filters at my hotel are a joke. No Facebook, no Twitter, but pretty much everything else is accessable. We only have one IT guy, and I know he is way too busy fixing all our archaic shit to worry about anyone looking at anything unsavory. One look at my boss's browsing history is certain confirmation of that. (he isn't too savvy with computers, and doesn't clear it lol)

Just a little helpful friendly hint.  Facebook is blocked here at my job, but the simple little trick of using https instead of http removes the block.  The company here uses Sonic Wall so if the hotel uses that, it should work.

[El Barto]

First off, despite being the one that was singled out, I thought PC addressed it quite appropriately. I think the first few people who told him it was his problem and to just deal with it were also quite courteous about it (personally, I'm just glad others brought it up so I didn't have to  ). Seems like a lot of people are posting without reading the entire thread, leading to false assumptions.

Secondly, who the hell wants to look at pr0n at work, anyway? We've got one of those up here. Seriously, WTF? Hell, I like porn as much as the next guy, but I have no interest in being, um, interested in it while at work. I understand why companies have to install filters, hell installing one here would save me from rebuilding several computers a year because numbnuts up there, but the people who necessitate them just baffle me.

[kirksnosehair]

The filters at my hotel are a joke. No Facebook, no Twitter, but pretty much everything else is accessable. We only have one IT guy, and I know he is way too busy fixing all our archaic shit to worry about anyone looking at anything unsavory. One look at my boss's browsing history is certain confirmation of that. (he isn't too savvy with computers, and doesn't clear it lol)

Just a little helpful friendly hint.  Facebook is blocked here at my job, but the simple little trick of using https instead of http removes the block.  The company here uses Sonic Wall so if the hotel uses that, it should work.

No offense, but 




That's not really how it works.  The person that set up your SonicWall goofed. 

[Prog Snob]

The filters at my hotel are a joke. No Facebook, no Twitter, but pretty much everything else is accessable. We only have one IT guy, and I know he is way too busy fixing all our archaic shit to worry about anyone looking at anything unsavory. One look at my boss's browsing history is certain confirmation of that. (he isn't too savvy with computers, and doesn't clear it lol)

Just a little helpful friendly hint.  Facebook is blocked here at my job, but the simple little trick of using https instead of http removes the block.  The company here uses Sonic Wall so if the hotel uses that, it should work.

No offense, but 




That's not really how it works.  The person that set up your SonicWall goofed.

 

Well... then two people goofed because that makes two companies in a row where it worked.