The Walking Dead, Season 4

[DP_Gumby]

I really enjoyed the first episode. And I must admit, I kinda giggled when that walker was hanging under the ceiling.
Thinking about that scene makes me remember a rather special scene from the Hannibal-movie, when he's in Florence.

Allready looking forward to the next episodes, and the rest of the season as well. 

[masterthes]

I was a bit underwhelmed by last night's episode, but next week might be a good one I think

[gmillerdrake]

I was a bit underwhelmed by last night's episode, but next week might be a good one I think

I'm going to trust Gimples explanation on the Talking Dead that last nights episode was needed to lay the groundwork for the stories he's going to tell this season. And, it really wasn't that bad an episode.

[Podaar]

"It's raining dead. Hallelujah!"

I don't trust the relaxed banter with the group. It feels like a setup to heartbreak.

I'm intrigued enough to watch next week so, so far so good. 

[Heretic]

Yeah, not a bad episode at all, more of a set-up episode, but they revealed a few interesting threads, at least.

[gmillerdrake]

I don't trust the relaxed banter with the group. It feels like a setup to heartbreak.

I think that was Gimples point. To show us that at least for 6-7 months the group had a 'break from bad things'. It's pretty easy to see the entire lesson from that episode is exactly what the crazy lady in the woods told Rick. There is no coming back from what that world is and does to you. The temporary safety and security they've had at the prison is just that, temporary. You can't escape that world outside the walls.....maybe hold it off for a bit but as we can see with the 'new breed' of eye bleeding walkers, that world is like a virus....it'll find a way to circumvent all defenses.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

D'Angelo Barksdale in da house!! Surprised to see him, hopefully he'll stick around for a few episodes atleast.

[gmillerdrake]

16.1 Million viewers for the Season opener! that's 5 million more than Breaking Bads series finale. The Talking Dead drew 5.1 Million viewers.

[Chino]

Why was Carl so upset when he walked in on Carlol doing the knife demonstration?

[gmillerdrake]

Why was Carl so upset when he walked in on Carlol doing the knife demonstration?

Maybe it was to show how close he and Rick have become now, that upon discovering secrets are being kept from his Dad by someone who he and his dad are close with.....made him upset?

[Chino]

Why was Carl so upset when he walked in on Carlol doing the knife demonstration?

Maybe it was to show how close he and Rick have become now, that upon discovering secrets are being kept from his Dad by someone who he and his dad are close with.....made him upset?

Carl used to deceive his mother about guns all the time. Hypocritical little shit.

[ResultsMayVary]

This is exactly what I thought this episode would be: an episode that would only serve as a way to set-up the upcoming season while trying to show what they have been doing since the last time we have seen them. A good episode, especially for what they were trying to do with it.

[Chino]

I still want to know where all the poo goes.

[gmillerdrake]

I still want to know where all the poo goes.

What about lady time of the month? 

[Zook]

I still want to know where all the poo goes.

Do you really need a scene of them carrying buckets of shit to a dump area?

[Dark Castle]

I still want to know where all the poo goes.

Do you really need a scene of them carrying buckets of shit to a dump area?

But what if they're faking their pooping to thicken the plot? What then?

[ResultsMayVary]

16.1 Million viewers for the Season opener! that's 5 million more than Breaking Bads series finale. The Talking Dead drew 5.1 Million viewers.

That's just fucking incredible. Wow. AMC must be mad-house right now.

[gmillerdrake]

16.1 Million viewers for the Season opener! that's 5 million more than Breaking Bads series finale. The Talking Dead drew 5.1 Million viewers.

That's just fucking incredible. Wow. AMC must be mad-house right now.

You'd think they could then afford to give us a two hour season premier and then subsequent season finale. That's my major gripe with TWD. Most other series give you those bonus couple hours to start and finish the season.

[Zook]

We had a slightly longer season 2 premiere didn't we?

[gmillerdrake]

We had a slightly longer season 2 premiere didn't we?

To be honest I don't recall. I know in recent memory (last season) it's been hour episodes to start and finish. I'd like to see season openers, mid season finales and season Enders be two hours. But I'm sure there's a reason why they don't do it.

[Zook]

They probably spend a butt load on Andrew Lincoln's accent training.

[gmillerdrake]

They probably spend a butt load on Andrew Lincoln's accent training.

Or Norman Reedus's black hair dye. Daryl had some black locks in last night episode. Not his dirty brown locks of old. He was all 'did' up.

[The King in Crimson]

We had a slightly longer season 2 premiere didn't we?

To be honest I don't recall. I know in recent memory (last season) it's been hour episodes to start and finish. I'd like to see season openers, mid season finales and season Enders be two hours. But I'm sure there's a reason why they don't do it.

AMC is cheap as shit, that's why.

Good opening episode I thought. Yeah, it's mostly set-up, but season premiers usually are and it was a big step up over season 3's giant pile of suck finale so I'll give it credit for that. It was also more enjoyable than Homeland.

I'm glad that the show is venturing entirely outside of the comic book realm and now it can be judged not as it compares to the original but on its own terms.

[BlackInk]

Like some of you have pointed out it was a pretty good set up episode, but not a very good season opener. Had this episode aired in the middle of the season or something it would have been pretty monumental. Now it was fine, but didn't quite deliver the punch in the face I usually look for in season openers.

[gmillerdrake]

Thinking about the way they made the point of the kids 'naming' the Walkers and how they view them leads me to believe its a kid feeding them. Like a pet.

[Chino]

Thinking about the way they made the point of the kids 'naming' the Walkers and how they view them leads me to believe its a kid feeding them. Like a pet.

That part really pissed me off. I thought the speech Rick gave Carl about naming the pigs was really forced and incredibly lame. Hearing Carl giving the same speech to the kids made me want to vomit.


Something I haven't seen mentioned yet, and speaking of pigs. I'm guessing that there is a link between the dead kid, the dead pig, and the bleeding-eye walker.

[gmillerdrake]

Thinking about the way they made the point of the kids 'naming' the Walkers and how they view them leads me to believe its a kid feeding them. Like a pet.

That part really pissed me off. I thought the speech Rick gave Carl about naming the pigs was really forced and incredibly lame. Hearing Carl giving the same speech to the kids made me want to vomit.


Something I haven't seen mentioned yet, and speaking of pigs. I'm guessing that there is a link between the dead kid, the dead pig, and the bleeding-eye walker.

I think the two scenes they dedicated to Rick singling out the zombie with two missing eyes is tied to that kids death as well. Like that zombie died of the same thing. It's like a new 'breed' of zombie. They arely focus the attention on one particular zombie unless there is something more to it. And the way Rick noticed that zombie was almost as if he knew it was 'out of place', like he had that cop 'hunch'

And you're right, the dead pig would seem to have to be tied in to it all as well. Just too much attention paid to all three that episode (blood eyed walker/dead Violet/dead 'nerd')

Maybe it's a nod back to the "original" cause of Walkerdom. First season a lot was made of getting a fever and being sick.....then turning. It was believed to be transmitted by being bit but now knowing their all infected maybe the zombie virus has found a way to manifest itself in 'healthy' bodies?

[Chino]

Thinking about the way they made the point of the kids 'naming' the Walkers and how they view them leads me to believe its a kid feeding them. Like a pet.

That part really pissed me off. I thought the speech Rick gave Carl about naming the pigs was really forced and incredibly lame. Hearing Carl giving the same speech to the kids made me want to vomit.


Something I haven't seen mentioned yet, and speaking of pigs. I'm guessing that there is a link between the dead kid, the dead pig, and the bleeding-eye walker.

I think the two scenes they dedicated to Rick singling out the zombie with two missing eyes is tied to that kids death as well. Like that zombie died of the same thing. It's like a new 'breed' of zombie. They arely focus the attention on one particular zombie unless there is something more to it. And the way Rick noticed that zombie was almost as if he knew it was 'out of place', like he had that cop 'hunch'

And you're right, the dead pig would seem to have to be tied in to it all as well. Just too much attention paid to all three that episode (blood eyed walker/dead Violet/dead 'nerd')

Maybe it's a nod back to the "original" cause of Walkerdom. First season a lot was made of getting a fever and being sick.....then turning. It was believed to be transmitted by being bit but now knowing their all infected maybe the zombie virus has found a way to manifest itself in 'healthy' bodies?

I was thinking that maybe because everyone has it in relatively small amounts, their immune system is able to keep it in check. When you die, your immune system no longer fights it. If you are bitten, maybe the direct injection of more of the virus overpowers the immune system. Rick made the water comment about the garden. Maybe that's finally catching up. The pig died from the feed it was being given, and maybe the kid died from drinking copious amounts of infected water in the shower.

[Progmetty]

I dunno if it's my TV but I couldn't make out most of what the woman in the woods was saying, but I kinda gather her story now from reading this thread, I'll watch her scenes again tonight. Awful actress though, the kinda guest star Joss Whedon would use for a TV show.

[DeanTheater]

I thoroughly liked the first episode!   I liked the community at peace for once. It gives the fans a believable breather.  I would imagine that life can get mundane and routine even in the zombie apocolypse.   But, it makes for good story telling , because their guard is now down and as humans get comfortable and forgetful over time, and they still think the zombies are the main threat and that they can manage with that threat.  BUT,  it is the new unforeseen threat that will shake things up.  they have 15 episodes to come this season and I for one cannot wait!

[Zook]

Honest Trailers: The Walking Dead

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[gmillerdrake]

I enjoyed the symbolism tied to Rick in this episode. The discarding of the farmer gloves as he ran in to help. The burning of the pig pen and clothing....sure for sanitary reasons but it also was a symbol of him surrendering to the inevitability of him 'returning to duty'

I like how close he and Carl are now apparently due to him spending the 6-7 months dedicating himself to just being a dad.

The scene with Michonne and Judith really implies she lost a child. That was a powerful scene.

I'm just curious as to how they'll know their 'safe' from the bug? When folks stop bursting from the eyes I guess?

[TioJorge]

I am thoroughly enjoying this season thus far! Second episode was absolutely beautiful. I love the simple homages to the comics in certain scenes. They're still making it their own, but the slow direction towards the comic storyline is very reassuring. Scott Gimple is a great fit, I think, as the showrunner. I still have my reservations and doubts, but I really enjoyed the tense set-up that episode one provided, and this most recent episode delivered in every way on that time-bomb. I said in the past I was hopeful for this season, and I'm only getting even more hopeful. Expectations in check still, however...this show was on its last breathe...but perhaps...it has reanimated....*GASP*

[ResultsMayVary]

Haven't watched the second episode yet (it's still sitting on my DVR), but from what I heard, there are a few head-scratching moments. I guess I'll way in when I see the episode myself later today.

[Dark Castle]

I liked the second episode a lot, looking forward to this season.