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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #770 on: December 03, 2013, 12:07:53 AM »
Enigma Machine is ok, but for me it's easily one of their weakest instrumentals (I'd say probably the weakest). It's not even the best instrumental on the album.
I enjoy it enough when listening to the album, but it's fairly simple riffing and soloing, and not too inspired to me. It doesn't have the buildup, the payoff, the melody, the beauty, the creativity etc that I enjoy from their other instrumentals.
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #771 on: December 03, 2013, 02:10:12 AM »
This is a very addicting album.  I thought ADTOE was a great return to form for the band, but this one is on a different level; for me personally at least.  Just a beautiful piece of art and I just keep going back to this one over and over again.

This is officially the number 2 DT album for me behind Images & Words.  Looking forward to their next live release which will hopefully include many of the s/t tracks.

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #772 on: December 03, 2013, 03:23:29 AM »
Today, for the first time, I am listening to tracks from the album out of sequence  :omg:

First one I listened to out of sequence was TBP. I didn't even really like that song all that much the first time round, I guess it's grown on me.

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #773 on: December 03, 2013, 03:30:16 AM »
This is a very addicting album.  I thought ADTOE was a great return to form for the band, but this one is on a different level; for me personally at least.  Just a beautiful piece of art and I just keep going back to this one over and over again.

Exactly this.

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #774 on: December 03, 2013, 04:02:00 PM »
Here's me ranking the songs from 'Dream Theater', two months after the release. From favourite to least favourite, here goes:

The Bigger Picture
Enigma Machine
False Awakening Suite
The Looking Glass
Along For The Ride
Illumination Theory
The Enemy Inside
Behind the Veil
Surrender to Reason
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #775 on: December 03, 2013, 04:08:34 PM »
Oh, good idea. Here goes nothing.

Illumination Theory
The Bigger Picture
Along for the Ride
The Enemy Inside
Behind the Veil
Enigma Machine
Surrender to Reason
False Awakening Suite
The Looking Glass

I must say I don't like this album nearly as much as any other DT release and I haven't listened to it enough to be quite sure of my ranking.

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #776 on: December 03, 2013, 04:21:40 PM »
Guess I'll follow suit.

Surrender To Reason
Illumination Theory
False Awakening Suite
Enigma Machine
Behind the Veil
The Looking Glass
The Bigger Picture
The Enemy Inside
Along For The Ride


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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #777 on: December 03, 2013, 05:01:48 PM »
IT
BTV
TBP
TLG
TEI
STR
EM
FAS
AFTR
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #778 on: December 03, 2013, 07:20:35 PM »
The Bigger Picture
The Looking Glass
Surrender To Reason
Behind the Veil
Along For The Ride
Illumination Theory
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Enigma Machine

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #779 on: December 03, 2013, 07:22:56 PM »
Surrender To Reason
The Bigger Picture
The Looking Glass
Behind the Veil
Illumination Theory
The Enemy Inside
Along For The Ride
False Awakening Suite
Enigma Machine
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #780 on: December 03, 2013, 10:37:35 PM »
Today, for the first time, I am listening to tracks from the album out of sequence  :omg:

I thought I felt a disturbance in The Force.
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #781 on: December 03, 2013, 10:39:58 PM »
Surrender To Reason
The Bigger Picture
Behind the Veil
The Looking Glass
Illumination Theory
The Enemy Inside
Along For The Ride
Enigma Machine
False Awakening Suite

Without Faith.....Without Hope.....There can be No Peace of Mind

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #782 on: December 04, 2013, 03:03:26 AM »
Illumination Theory
Behind The Veil
Surrender To Reason
The Bigger Picture
The Looking Glass
Along For The Ride
The Enemy Inside











False Awakening Suite
Enigma Machine

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #783 on: December 04, 2013, 03:36:39 AM »


The Looking Glass  (Great riffs and good chorus!)
Along For The Ride  (Beautiful ^__^! )


Illumination Theory 
Surrender To Reason
The Bigger Picture
Behind the Veil



False Awakening Suite  (confusing)



The Enemy Inside  (worst single by DT)
Enigma Machine    (worst song by DT)
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #784 on: December 04, 2013, 04:09:39 AM »
The Bigger Picture
Illumination Theory
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
Surrender To Reason (a grower)
Behind The Veil
Along For The Ride
FAS
Enigma Machine
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #785 on: December 04, 2013, 07:21:02 AM »
Illumination Theory
Behind The Veil
The Bigger Picture
Surrender To Reason
The Looking Glass
The Enemy Inside
Along For The Ride
Enigma Machine
False Awakening Suite

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #786 on: December 04, 2013, 02:59:23 PM »
I'm no good at doing rankings, but I will say The Bigger Picture is definitely my favorite song. Such an incredibly strong song

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #787 on: December 04, 2013, 03:17:24 PM »
I just noticed that there isn't one song on the album that I love listening to all the way through. Many of the songs have great parts, but I guess their low parts are just too low to justify me listening to the album a lot.

I still love 90% of IT though. I find it to be a solid epic.

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #788 on: December 04, 2013, 03:43:45 PM »
The Bigger Picture



Everything else...

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #789 on: December 04, 2013, 03:44:57 PM »
Heavily Rush influenced song
Heavily Rush influenced song
Heavily Rush influenced song
Behind the Veil
Illumination Theory
The Enemy Inside
Along For The Ride
False Awakening Suite
Enigma Machine

 :lol
Makes perfect sense to me, King!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #790 on: December 04, 2013, 03:56:00 PM »
Heavily Rush influenced song
Heavily Rush influenced song
Heavily Rush influenced song
Behind the Veil
Illumination Theory
The Enemy Inside
Along For The Ride
False Awakening Suite
Enigma Machine

 :lol
Makes perfect sense to me, King!

What the?! :lol

I'm being pigeonholed!!  :getoffmylawn:
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #791 on: December 04, 2013, 03:57:33 PM »
Heavily Rush influenced song
Heavily Rush influenced song
Heavily Rush influenced song
Behind the Veil
Illumination Theory
The Enemy Inside
Along For The Ride
False Awakening Suite
Enigma Machine

 :lol
Makes perfect sense to me, King!

What the?! :lol

I'm being pigeonholed!!  :getoffmylawn:

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Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #792 on: December 04, 2013, 03:59:24 PM »
 :metal

And to answer your question.  it must have!
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #793 on: December 06, 2013, 04:30:01 AM »
After listening to DT12 many, many times, I can say the "problem" (for me) with this record, is I don't feel the NEED to sing the songs. It doesn't move me at all. I can't say anything negative about it musically, it's obviously a great job, but it's kind of cold. This short song format, doesn't work for me. Maybe Mangini was "unleashed", but the others don't. IMHO.
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #794 on: December 07, 2013, 12:39:21 AM »

False Awakening Suite  (confusing)


Why is it confusing? It's a cinematic little piece used as an album opener, and to open concerts of the current tour. Pretty straightforward really..

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #795 on: December 07, 2013, 05:34:02 AM »
I'm being pigeonholed!!  :getoffmylawn:
Did you at least get kissed first?
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #796 on: December 07, 2013, 06:31:04 AM »
The Bigger Picture
Surrender To Reason
IT minus the ambient and orchestral part
Behind The Veil
The Enemy Inside




Enigma Machine
The Looking Glass
Along for the Ride
IT as a whole with the ambient/orchestral part
False Awakening Suite

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #797 on: December 07, 2013, 09:22:27 AM »
I'm being pigeonholed!!  :getoffmylawn:
Did you at least get kissed first?

Nope.  One can only wish Hef.
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #798 on: December 07, 2013, 11:11:22 PM »

False Awakening Suite  (confusing)


Why is it confusing? It's a cinematic little piece used as an album opener, and to open concerts of the current tour. Pretty straightforward really..

There's so much stuff in it :p  It is like SDOIT Overture compressed to 3 mins.   
maybe if those "Melodies" would have some space to breathe,  (meaning that they wouldn't change so fast) I'd like it.
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #799 on: December 07, 2013, 11:13:11 PM »
False Awakening Suite not only packs a whole bunch of music into tiny 3 minutes, it also packs a whole lot of awesomeness. Definitely one of the best album openers.
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #800 on: December 07, 2013, 11:17:40 PM »
False Awakening Suite not only packs a whole bunch of music into tiny 3 minutes, it also packs a whole lot of awesomeness. Definitely one of the best album openers.

I think it works perfectly for an album opener, especially for a self titled album. :tup It's actually one of my favourite tracks from the album, top 2 or 3 for me.
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #801 on: December 07, 2013, 11:32:29 PM »
False Awakening Suite not only packs a whole bunch of music into tiny 3 minutes, it also packs a whole lot of awesomeness. Definitely one of the best album openers.

I think it works perfectly for an album opener, especially for a self titled album. :tup It's actually one of my favourite tracks from the album, top 2 or 3 for me.

Yeah, U could say that.  But I'd also say that it would ONLY work as an album opener :P  Think about in the middle of the album.. haha  ;D
I don't mean that I hate it.  I just find it "weird" ...

I don't like really much what comes after FAS.  TEI isn't my favourite DT Single :P
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #802 on: December 08, 2013, 12:00:45 AM »
Yeah, U could say that.  But I'd also say that it would ONLY work as an album opener :P  Think about in the middle of the album.. haha  ;D
I don't mean that I hate it.  I just find it "weird" ...

I don't like really much what comes after FAS.  TEI isn't my favourite DT Single :P

Well, maybe it would sound a little weird in the middle of a playlist, but it's still good to listen to all by itself. It is a stand alone piece that doesn't necessarily feel like it's leading into anything.
Regression, on the other hand, would sound weird in the middle of a playlist, AND it's too brief to stand strongly all on its own.
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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #803 on: December 11, 2013, 05:37:07 AM »
It pains me to say it, but I made an edit of Illumination Theory - in which I cut out pretty much the entire ambient and string section - and it has made it a much better song for me. It now flows a lot better and is a very solid track of 17:50 mins.

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Re: What are your thoughts on DT12?
« Reply #804 on: December 11, 2013, 06:06:19 AM »
I was totally crazy about the album when it came out.

Now it's a lot different. I'm not playing the album at all anymore. All I listen to when it comes to DT, is Awake.

Probably a defect on my part. The album's pretty good. It's just that I don't have the desire to hear it anymore. I'll just let it rest.

I have to say this marks the first time that a new DT record isn't in my top 10 albums of the year. Maybe it's my personal tastes moving towards somewhere else.
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