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Offline Shadow2222

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« Reply #1890 on: September 24, 2013, 11:32:30 AM »
Epic Ranking:

1. A Change of Seasons
2. Octavarium
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
4. Illumination Theory
5. The Count of Tuscany
6. In the Name of God
7. In the Presence of Enemies

Song Ranking:

1. Illumination Theory - 9.5/10
2. The Bigger Picture - 9/10
3. Behind the Veil - 9/10
4. Along for the Ride - 9/10
5. Enigma Machine - 8.5/10
6. The Looking Glass - 8.5/10
7. False Awakening Suite - 8.5.10
8. Surrender to Reason - 8/10
9. The Enemy Inside - 6.5/10
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1891 on: September 24, 2013, 12:03:15 PM »
Why the hell are we ranking the epics in this thread?
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« Reply #1892 on: September 24, 2013, 12:14:49 PM »
I'd actually enjoyed them more if TLG & TBP were both for about 3-4 minutes longer. I feel like there's to them :/
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1893 on: September 24, 2013, 12:33:43 PM »
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 24, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
Why the hell are we ranking the epics in this thread?
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1894 on: September 24, 2013, 01:45:58 PM »
After listening the album a couple more times, Illumination Theory doesn't seem as awesome as the first two times and The Looking Glass has already become one of my favorite DT songs ever.
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1895 on: September 24, 2013, 02:09:14 PM »
So I got DT12.
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« Reply #1896 on: September 24, 2013, 02:16:56 PM »
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1897 on: September 24, 2013, 02:19:12 PM »
On IT now. So far, album's really good. Definitely liking more than I did ADTOE the first time.
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1898 on: September 24, 2013, 02:22:30 PM »
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 24, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
Why the hell are we ranking the epics in this thread?

It does say a lot about IT to show where it ranks compared to DT's previous epics.

I think I'd put IT as 3rd behind Octavarium and SDOIT.
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1899 on: September 24, 2013, 02:35:57 PM »
Quote from: ? on September 24, 2013, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 24, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
Why the hell are we ranking the epics in this thread?


Why the hell not ?  :angry:
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1900 on: September 24, 2013, 02:41:00 PM »
Took a half day at work today to spend my afternoon listening to the record.  I'm really liking it so far, especially The Looking Glass, Behind the Veil, Surrender to Reason, and Along for the Ride.  In all, it's a solid record, and worthy of being self-titled.

My only complaint is the snare sound.  Being a drummer, the snare sound just doesn't fit the rest of the kit, or the rest of the mix.  I mean, there's so much clarity, definition, and power in the toms and the kicks, and then the snare sounds like the top head was covered by a blanket that was immobilized by duct tape.  Don Henley would be proud!  If this record had, say Peter Wildoer's snare sound from Impermanent Resonance, I'd be much happier.  That's just me being very particular about drum sounds, however.

But, that is my only complaint.  This record sounds amazing otherwise.  In all, it sounds like they had fun making this record.   :metal
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1901 on: September 24, 2013, 03:19:09 PM »
Serious question.  Now that the album is out, is there any reason for this thread to remain open?
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1902 on: September 24, 2013, 03:49:36 PM »
No
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« Reply #1903 on: September 24, 2013, 05:26:46 PM »
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 24, 2013, 03:19:09 PM
Serious question.  Now that the album is out, is there any reason for this thread to remain open?

But maybe to preserve all the discussion in one single thread instead of fragmenting it, this could be downtoned to a simple DT12 discussion thread, maybe steering at the same time the "your thoughts on DT12" toward a more review-oriented format. Or just cut the bull's head and can one of the two without mercy.
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Re: Self Titled Stream Discussion thread [READ FIRST POST, SPOILERS THEREAFTER]
« Reply #1904 on: September 24, 2013, 06:46:55 PM »
Misheard lyric time !!!!!

1. You are caught up in your gravity. Glorifying Magnets !! Singing your own praise.

2.Never be crippled by chaos and doubt. Fall prey to the magnets !!!


Now I know why some people are either hugely attracted to this album or repelled by it :neverusethis:
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« Reply #1905 on: September 24, 2013, 06:59:32 PM »
Well, before the lock, I'll just rank the big six epics here:

(The Fountain of Lamneth)
Octavarium/Illumination Theory TIED
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
(Hemispheres)
The Count of Tuscany
In the Presence of Enemies
(2112)
A Change of Seasons
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« Reply #1906 on: September 24, 2013, 08:02:09 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on September 24, 2013, 06:46:55 PM
Misheard lyric time !!!!!

1. You are caught up in your gravity. Glorifying Magnets !! Singing your own praise.

2.Never be crippled by chaos and doubt. Fall prey to the magnets !!!


Now I know why some people are either hugely attracted to this album or repelled by it :neverusethis:

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« Reply #1907 on: September 24, 2013, 08:41:17 PM »

1. Illumination Theory - 9.9/10
2. The Looking Glass - 9.3/10
3. The Enemy Inside - 9.0/10
4. Surrender to Reason - 9.0/10
5. The Bigger Picture - 8.5/10
6. Enigma Machine - 8.5/10
7. Behind the Veil - 8.5/10
8. False Awakening Suite - 8.5/10
9. Along for the Ride - 8.0/10

Overall the most consitent album since Scenes from A memory to me.
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« Reply #1908 on: September 25, 2013, 02:06:54 AM »
Watching the Mangini drum audition video now.  For those of who you didn't pony up for the box set, the video is actually an extended episode of the Spirit Carries On documentary, professionally edited, and includes extra footage of Mike in hotel room, driving from Boston, deleted footage of the band members commenting on Mike and the concept of jamming, etc.  Its really cool.

As for the jam itself---  strap on your astronaut diapers, folks!

The tightness of the jamming is evidence of how they melded together as a cohesive unit from day one.
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« Reply #1909 on: September 25, 2013, 02:52:43 AM »
"Dream Theater" is definitely a great album  :metal...but it still out of reach from my top 3 (Awake, Images & words and 6DOIT).
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« Reply #1910 on: September 25, 2013, 03:03:29 AM »
Quote from: RaiseTheKnife on September 25, 2013, 02:06:54 AM
Watching the Mangini drum audition video now.  For those of who you didn't pony up for the box set, the video is actually an extended episode of the Spirit Carries On documentary, professionally edited, and includes extra footage of Mike in hotel room, driving from Boston, deleted footage of the band members commenting on Mike and the concept of jamming, etc.  Its really cool.

As for the jam itself---  strap on your astronaut diapers, folks!

The tightness of the jamming is evidence of how they melded together as a cohesive unit from day one.

Damn, that sounds great. If only i had the money to get the box set...
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« Reply #1911 on: September 25, 2013, 03:46:15 AM »
Personally I wouldn't buy it even if I had the money.

Tired of all this business to get more and more money from the fans.
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« Reply #1912 on: September 25, 2013, 04:06:27 AM »
Quote from: sylvinception on September 25, 2013, 03:46:15 AM
Personally I wouldn't buy it even if I had the money.

Tired of all this business to get more and more money from the fans.

Well actually i would buy it if it had the HDTracks master, i won't buy a brickwalled version just for the goodies.
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« Reply #1913 on: September 25, 2013, 07:08:59 AM »
It's funny to compare people's reactions to this album in France and in the US.

In France (see and translate by yourself on the YourMajesty forum), the album is much, much less appreciated than in your country...and it's an euphemism.  :omg:
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« Reply #1914 on: September 25, 2013, 07:15:33 AM »
Quote from: sylvinception on September 25, 2013, 07:08:59 AM
It's funny to compare people's reactions to this album in France and in the US.

In France (see and translate by yourself on the YourMajesty forum), the album is much, much less appreciated than in your country...and it's an euphemism.  :omg:

Well that's the difference between pessimism and optimism.  For example  >:( versus  :biggrin:
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« Reply #1915 on: September 25, 2013, 07:42:20 AM »
I think that's more of a difference between communities. DTF tends to be a bit more positive about DT than anywhere else.
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« Reply #1916 on: September 25, 2013, 07:45:24 AM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on September 24, 2013, 06:46:55 PM
Misheard lyric time !!!!!

I heard a line at the end of The Bigger Picture that I thought was such a powerful beautiful statement, especially in the way it's sung and how it ends the song "I am hope", just to discover that it's "I am home" which is.. okay.
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Re: Self Titled Album Discussion thread [Expect Spoilers]
« Reply #1917 on: September 25, 2013, 07:51:25 AM »
I thought it was funny that two different songs have what sounds like magnets in them :P
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« Reply #1918 on: September 25, 2013, 07:53:30 AM »
There's also a big rumour in France : DT and Roadrunner are about to upload an "HD version" of the album on the web... :justjen

Very weird.
Just can't imagine the reactions if the sound is better than the cd!! :loser:
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« Reply #1919 on: September 25, 2013, 07:59:39 AM »
Quote from: sylvinception on September 25, 2013, 07:53:30 AM
There's also a big rumour in France : DT and Roadrunner are about to upload an "HD version" of the album on the web... :justjen

Very weird.
Just can't imagine the reactions if the sound is better than the cd!! :loser:

It's called HDTracks and it's already available. Got it last night. Highly recommended.
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« Reply #1920 on: September 25, 2013, 08:03:14 AM »
So you confirm it sounds better than the original cd ?? :omg:

Any link pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaassssssssseeeeeeee ?? :biggrin:
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« Reply #1921 on: September 25, 2013, 08:08:00 AM »
Yeah, it sounds much better than the CD. I bought and downloaded it last night.

https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php

More discussions about it here:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39177.0
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« Reply #1922 on: September 25, 2013, 08:19:55 AM »
Thanks a lot!!

So if I have already the cd, I have the obligation to pay again ?? Charming!!  :censored

Thank you DT!! :tdwn
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Re: Self Titled Album Discussion thread [Expect Spoilers]
« Reply #1923 on: September 25, 2013, 08:38:14 AM »
Quote from: sylvinception on September 25, 2013, 08:19:55 AM
Thanks a lot!!

So if I have already the cd, I have the obligation to pay again ?? Charming!!  :censored

Thank you DT!! :tdwn
Nobody is forcing you. The CD is perfectly acceptable for me. I'm not gonna dish out another £12 when I don't need to. If I get the HD download - it's just audio - you don't get anything to look at etc.
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« Reply #1924 on: September 25, 2013, 08:52:13 AM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on September 25, 2013, 08:38:14 AM
Quote from: sylvinception on September 25, 2013, 08:19:55 AM
Thanks a lot!!

So if I have already the cd, I have the obligation to pay again ?? Charming!!  :censored

Thank you DT!! :tdwn
Nobody is forcing you. The CD is perfectly acceptable for me. I'm not gonna dish out another £12 when I don't need to. If I get the HD download - it's just audio - you don't get anything to look at etc.

Not true.  The HD tracks come with the full liner notes in PDF format.
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