King Crimson Appreciation Thread

Started by Kubla, July 29, 2009, 04:13:29 PM

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Phoenix87x

I've been listening to Beat quite a bit lately.

I always kind of ignored it, but its actually pretty solid, if you like 80's era KC.

Mladen

I find it almost as good as Discipline, to be honest. They actually pulled off those more accessible, slightly mainstream track.

Orbert

Each of those three albums (Discipline, Beat, Three of a Perfect Pair) has its strengths.  Discpline set the mold of course, but Beat had the feel of a band more comfortable with itself, polished things up in a few ways but also got crazier in some ways.  Three of a Perfect Pair brought back the element of improv which was always part of King Crimson, even in the studio.

Sketchy

I've not heard those three in a while. I should blast them again. I think Discipline is my favourite of the three, but Beat and TOAPP have some really amazing tracks on them, especially Beat, while TOAPP really goes back into the wierd.

Damn, I love the first three on Beat.

sueño

Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 07, 2013, 05:24:01 PM
What you want is the remaster Steven Wilson did of In The Court Of The Crimson King.

Is his name prominent on the album?  I've been checking thru Amazon and it seems like Wilson re-mastered a few of their albums...but I'm not seeing the specific "Court" re-master...

Does anyone have a link to the exact one I should purchase?  Thank you!

me7

It's the "40th anniversary edition". For some reason I can't find it on Amazon right now :-\

All SW remixes except for one are  labelled "40th anniversary". The only exception is Red, the 40th anniversary edition uses an older mix, the SW mix is just sold as the 2013 version of Red.

Phoenix87x

#496
Hell yeah, I'm there  :metal :metal :metal

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/king-crimson-will-reunite-for-three-new-york-city-shows-20140602

Nevermind,

everything is sold out and the lowest ticket availabie is like $360. Even Stub hub is like $180 for the cheapest ticket. Whatever, didn't even want to see them anyway  :'(

Nekov

 :omg: So jealous of everyone attending...

PolarizeMe

Quote from: Phoenix87x on June 06, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
Nevermind, everything is sold out and the lowest ticket availabie is like $360. Even Stub hub is like $180 for the cheapest ticket. Whatever, didn't even want to see them anyway  :'(

I've been trying to buy tickets online for any of the NYC shows, but for some :censored reason, it keeps popping up as being unavailable when there are clearly some seats still :censored available. Looks like, I'm not the only one with this problem. This might be my first and only chance of ever seeing them live, and the fact that unless I cave in some money for StubHub tickets (which I refuse to do), I'm heartbroken that I won't be seeing them even though I live in the NYC area.  :'(

Sketchy

Quote from: Nekov on June 06, 2014, 07:20:24 PM
:omg: So jealous of everyone attending...

^ This. Damn there not being dates outside of America currently announced.

millahh

There's still tickets for Thursday, bought one just now.

Grizz

Quote from: PolarizeMe on June 06, 2014, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: Phoenix87x on June 06, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
Nevermind, everything is sold out and the lowest ticket availabie is like $360. Even Stub hub is like $180 for the cheapest ticket. Whatever, didn't even want to see them anyway  :'(

I've been trying to buy tickets online for any of the NYC shows, but for some :censored reason, it keeps popping up as being unavailable when there are clearly some seats still :censored available. Looks like, I'm not the only one with this problem. This might be my first and only chance of ever seeing them live, and the fact that unless I cave in some money for StubHub tickets (which I refuse to do), I'm heartbroken that I won't be seeing them even though I live in the NYC area.  :'(
Yeah, I'm pretty damn upset. How does a 55 year-old prog band sell 5,000+ seats in 48 hours anyway?

The Letter M

Quote from: Grizz on June 09, 2014, 08:26:35 PM
Quote from: PolarizeMe on June 06, 2014, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: Phoenix87x on June 06, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
Nevermind, everything is sold out and the lowest ticket availabie is like $360. Even Stub hub is like $180 for the cheapest ticket. Whatever, didn't even want to see them anyway  :'(

I've been trying to buy tickets online for any of the NYC shows, but for some :censored reason, it keeps popping up as being unavailable when there are clearly some seats still :censored available. Looks like, I'm not the only one with this problem. This might be my first and only chance of ever seeing them live, and the fact that unless I cave in some money for StubHub tickets (which I refuse to do), I'm heartbroken that I won't be seeing them even though I live in the NYC area.  :'(
Yeah, I'm pretty damn upset. How does a 55 year-old prog band sell 5,000+ seats in 48 hours anyway?

55 year-old?! They've been around since 1959?! :facepalm: :lol :P

And are you sure they're offering the max number of seats for the show? Some places don't open all seating for a show, some sections may be closed off or unused for the show.

-Marc.

Grizz

Grr, 45. And I assume that the vast majority of seats are selling if they paid for 3 nights.

ColdFireYYZ

There's a new NYC date added for Sunday 9/21, for those that couldn't get tickets!
https://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=4681

I managed to get a ticket for the Saturday show in New York through the presale. Can't wait!

Phoenix87x

This whole thing blows.

If Belew was still in the band, I could maybe justify paying $185 for a so so seat, just so I could see them at least once in my life-time, but Jakko is such an unknown quantity.

I like his work, but don't have a clue how he's going to sound singing KC's catalogue. I just don't know. 

Grizz

Quote from: ColdFireYYZ on June 10, 2014, 09:32:10 AM
There's a new NYC date added for Sunday 9/21, for those that couldn't get tickets!
https://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=4681

I managed to get a ticket for the Saturday show in New York through the presale. Can't wait!
OOOOOH GOTTA GET SOME CASH

ColdFireYYZ

Quote from: Phoenix87x on June 10, 2014, 04:20:18 PM
This whole thing blows.

If Belew was still in the band, I could maybe justify paying $185 for a so so seat, just so I could see them at least once in my life-time, but Jakko is such an unknown quantity.

I like his work, but don't have a clue how he's going to sound singing KC's catalogue. I just don't know. 
Jakko toured with the 21st Century Schizoid Band, which focused on the first four King Crimson albums. You could probably track down some recordings to at least hear how he sounds on the early Crimson material.

As for Belew, I love his work with the band, but I'm excited about the new lineup. Apparently, they'll be focusing on reinterpreting the 70's material and Jakko is better suited for that music than Belew, IMO. Hopefully they'll also play new music/improv and we'll see a new studio album next year.

ytserush

King Crimson isn't about any one person and that includes Robert Fripp.

Grizz

Just got my B-row mezzanine seats for the Sunday show! Can't wait!!!

But I haven't got a penny to my name now. lol.

Orbert

I have no idea if this link will work, but it's a video a friend of mine shared on Facebook, shared by someone else.  I cannot describe it.  Well, I could, but that would spoil the surprise.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152559753027813

Jaq


Orbert

I guess the link worked.  Heh heh.

Somehow it amuses me that 99% of the people there are just watching some weird musical group playing some weird tune, and two or three people are thinking "Is that... King Crimson?  Holy shit, it is!"

Podaar


ytserush

Cool! 

If they can to that they should be able to launch into almost anything though.


For some reason, Crazy Train or The Trooper springs to mind.


Mister Gold

It looks like we have our first sample of new material from the new King Crimson lineup! It's apparently titled Venturing unto Joy pt 1. Has a very Larks vibe about it! I dig it! :metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI4LSgqOQmw

Phoenix87x

Something is better than nothing I guess.

ThatOneGuy2112

Dear god it's happening.

I'm really digging it. Not mind-blowing, but if there's more to come, then bring it.

The King in Crimson

Gavin + Tony + Robert = me spending money on new music. It could be all three of them farting into a mic for 80 minutes but by god, I will buy it.

Ultimetalhead

Jesus they have THREE drummers now? I'm all for Gavin and Pat Mastelotto together, but a third seems quite excessive.

The Letter M

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on July 09, 2014, 09:39:22 AM
Jesus they have THREE drummers now? I'm all for Gavin and Pat Mastelotto together, but a third seems quite excessive.

Well, the way I see it, it covers all bases for the band's history of percussion. In the beginning, and through the Wetton and 80's eras, they had extra percussion for sound effects, extra layers, more cymbals and auxiliary stuff. In the 90's, they had double-drumming with two actual drummers doing drum beats and grooves to add to the insane multi-part, polymetric sound of King Crimson.

Now with THREE drummers, they can cover both, by utilizing two drummers major drum beats and grooves, with a third to do the extra stuff. I think it'll add quite a unique layer of intricate performance. Imagine, twelve limbs doing twelve things all at the same time!!!

-Marc.

Grizz

Well in the sample it sounds quite busy.

Orbert

King Crimson has always been about experimentation and pushing boundaries.  When the "double trio" first came together, with two drummers, two guitars, and two bass/Stick players, I expected total cacaphony, but was instead amazed by how tight everything sounded, which was the exact opposite.  Everything fit, nothing felt excessive or superfluous.

Fripp is a genius in pretty much all aspects of music, including structure and arrangement.  Are three drummers "necessary"?  Probably not.  Can it work and sound awesome?  Hell, yes!

Shadow Ninja 2.0

Personally, I don't think they have enough drummers.

Orbert