Why does Prog music generally perform badly, critically speaking?

[TheGreatPretender]

Hey guys, did you know that AC/DC and Neal Morse sound the same, because, ya know, they are both rock!!

I know! It's so predictable! AC/DC should use turntables and dubstep on their next album.

[Mindflux]

I know! It's so predictable! AC/DC should use turntables and dubstep on their next album.

[bosk1]

Well opinions are opinions. i thought its.. well... really really generic.. 
It is a bretty good album, but does it bring anything new to the table? nope.  it *almost* sounds like they just did homework and did what any other prog band ever has done

Where do you expect it to go?  I'm curious.

I want it to not sound like any prog band ever, i want them to bring something new to their sound, something "of their own", if ya know what i mean.
Something that if ill go to another band i wont find it there.
Also,for those who say "progressive is hard to swallow", complexity doesnt have to come from music theory, it can also come from the emotions you get from a song and the atmosphere it creates. I think progressive music isnt that hard to swallow when there are genres like drone and dark ambient around.

Btw, on a side note,
For the last few months i barely visited DTF because well, i started going to *snip* instead..
It has shitty community, but it really exposed me to so much music... its astonishing how vast the music world and how many genres there are.
with that said, i still love some prog, just not recent prog 

Since you cannot abide by the forum rules and have posted references to sites that have content that violates these forum rules, you are banned from the site.

Mindflux, consider this your final warning for doing the same thing.

[bosk1]

Why should a band with an established sound have to recreate a new sound with each release? I don't even like Transatlantic, but I find it a bit silly to say a genre is dead when simply, bands have found their sound, and you don't fix what's broken. You can't expect prog to explore sounds like The Knife did, because ultimately, they're completely different genres with different approaches and different goals.

So in your opinion, a band should create the same album 100 times instead of trying to develop their sound?

I love when someone puts words in someone else's mouth like this.

Totally.  If that bugs you, then whatever you do, don't go to the NFL thread.  That guy KevShmev that posts there is notorious for pulling that.

[Mindflux]

Mindflux, consider this your final warning for doing the same thing.

For?  I mentioned a site that has music discussion and general ass hattery?  I went over the rules and don't see an example where this fits? Do they have porn too? Then I could see the logic. I've never visited, I've just seen the ridiculous screen caps of conversations/trolling.


If that's the case I apologize, but I truly didn't know it was 'banned'. The insane convos are all over Reddit. That's about as much as I know about 'em.

Now I'm unsure if mentioning reddit is wise since you can find EVERYTHING on it. :/

[Outcrier]

Yeah ElliottTamer, take a look at RYM top 10 this year so far:

1 - Gorguts - Colored Sands
2 - Boards Of Canada - Tomorrow's Harvest ( )
3 - Run The Jewels - Run The Jewels
4 - Sigur Rós - Kveikur
5 - Nick Cave - Push The Sky Away
6 - MBV - m b v
7 - Steven Wilson - The Raven etc etc etc (Yeah, prog in top 10)
8 - Kurt Vile - Wakin' on a Pretty Daze
9 - Jon Hopkins - Immunity
10 - Vampire Weekend - Modern Vampires Of The City

Pretty good music, eh? Leprous, Big Big Train, Riverside, Scale the Summit and other prog bands released some good stuff too 

That list looks somewhat different to the one on Metacritic. But RYM reflects popular critical reception, whereas Metacritic deals with journalistic critical reception. It might not look like it makes a difference, but I would say prog fans are often more hardcore than other music fans and so much more likely to go on websites like RYM and give good ratings for their favorite releases. It's also somewhat less objective: if you just have to provide a star rating you provide a lot less justification for your opinion than if you actually write a review. (In the top 10 you posted, for example, there are only ever from 5 to 10% of reviews in relation to ratings)

I prefer popular critical reception, excluding the trolls that give 0.5 or 5.0 without listening to the albums, generally they will give honest ratings

I personally think Rate Your Music the best site ever for music (movies too, imdb  )

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Honestly speaking, they do all sound very much the same to a point i could imagine all of their albums being the discography of just one band.

I like the heavy 7-string riffs on Heritage, the hard rock-influenced song on Wilson's latest album, the technical unisons on the new Riverside record and the flute solos on ADTOE

olol

[Outcrier]

Well, in 2010's, there's not much amazing things going for progressive rock or metal (Steven Wilson, Enslaved, Leprous, Anathema, Haken, etc) like in 2000's:
Porcupine Tree and Opeth showed great consistency, Marillion and Magma returning from the dead in 2004  , Mars Volta debut, the Transatlantic supergroup, Riverside, IQ, Pure Reason Revolution (before changing their approach), Ayreon, Tool, Oceansize, Phideaux, all them releasing good stuff...
Green Carnation releasing their epic, Enslaved being more good than ever, Mastodon and POS releasing classic albums, Anathema with an album that was not A Natural Disaster at all   

(sorry, i'm inspired  )

[ytserush]

Uh...because prog is anti-meta?