Author Topic: The Enemy Inside vs. On The Backs Of Angels (Read 9555 times)

krands85 · « **Reply #35 on:** August 05, 2013, 07:38:41 PM »

Probably too early to tell for me, I've only listened to TEI twice so far and I normally need quite a few listens before I really get a good feel for most songs. I did like it right away though - which often isn't the case with songs I end up really liking, so I guess that's a good sign.

I love OtBoA though - I listened to it dozens of times before ADToE was released and never got bored of it - still haven't. So TEI will have to go some way to better it.

The Boomr · « **Reply #36 on:** August 05, 2013, 07:41:53 PM »

OTBOA for me. TEI is ok, but not striking any particular chords within me (pun intended). As I remember, OTBOA didn't resonate with me that greatly either, until the actual album was released. Then, within its rightful context, I had a :lightbulb: moment, most definitely. So it's a bit unfair for me to judge, I guess. But I do feel in general like OTBOA showcased DT's more melodic and creative side, which is beginning to be my preference, as of late. It just didn't feel as cut and dry form and structure-wise as TEI. Still love the heavy stuff that I loved before, but new heavy stuff is gonna take a while to grow on me, most likely.

Bolsters · « **Reply #37 on:** August 05, 2013, 10:14:43 PM »

I think On The Backs Of Angels is way, way better.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #38 on:** August 05, 2013, 11:16:36 PM »

They sound nothing alike to me, but I voted for The Enemy Inside easily.
I never much liked OTBOA, it sounds a bit stale and lethargic to me. The Enemy Inside is a great shorter structure metal song with a lot of energy, and is a good sign for DT12.

adastra · « **Reply #39 on:** August 05, 2013, 11:29:07 PM »

I think that The Enemy inside was pretty catchy! I don't normally like this heavy songs from DT but I liked this one.
OTBOA on the other hand has been boring from the first day I heard it.

TheGreatPretender · « **Reply #40 on:** August 05, 2013, 11:33:21 PM »

Quote from: Bolsters on August 05, 2013, 10:14:43 PM

I think On The Backs Of Angels is way, way better.

As I recall, people weren't all that impressed with OTBOA at first either. And then they started flooding in, saying, "My God, this song grew on me so much!"

wolven74 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 06, 2013, 12:00:48 AM »

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OTBOA has so much going for it, the change in dynamics, Jordan's piano solo

I have to agree here. I think this is the only thing that TEI is missing. It's a ball crushing, face melting battering ram of energy and powah, but it lacks a certain subtlety that I enjoyed with OTBOA. I will say this: on first listen, I'd go with TEI, but we'll see if it has any stamina when compared with the rest of the album.

Too early to call.

Bolsters · « **Reply #42 on:** August 06, 2013, 12:07:48 AM »

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on August 05, 2013, 11:33:21 PM

Quote from: Bolsters on August 05, 2013, 10:14:43 PM
I think On The Backs Of Angels is way, way better.
As I recall, people weren't all that impressed with OTBOA at first either. And then they started flooding in, saying, "My God, this song grew on me so much!"

I was one of them. However, I wasn't nearly as disappointed with OTBOA at first as I am with TEI. I still liked OTBOA despite some slight disappointment. Right now, I don't like TEI at all.

There is still a possibility it will grow on me, yes. But it's starting from a lot further back than OTBOA initially did. Chances are slimmer.

eviljust · « **Reply #43 on:** August 06, 2013, 01:10:08 AM »

After like 10 times and more of TEI listenings, I have to say OTBOA wins this one.

TheDodo · « **Reply #44 on:** August 06, 2013, 01:23:34 AM »

After some listens to TEI I have to say OTBOA... With TEI I have the feeling DT took riffs from different songs, transposed and changed them up a little bit und used it again which gives it its typical DT feel and made me think "Hey, I know that one". The rest of the song sounded pretty generic. Maybe it will grow on me when listening to the full album.

aprilethereal · « **Reply #45 on:** August 06, 2013, 01:27:20 AM »

Quote from: wolven74 on August 06, 2013, 12:00:48 AM

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OTBOA has so much going for it, the change in dynamics, Jordan's piano solo

I have to agree here. I think this is the only thing that TEI is missing. It's a ball crushing, face melting battering ram of energy and powah, but it lacks a certain subtlety that I enjoyed with OTBOA. I will say this: on first listen, I'd go with TEI, but we'll see if it has any stamina when compared with the rest of the album.

Agreed 100%

nikatapi · « **Reply #46 on:** August 06, 2013, 01:49:59 AM »

Easily OTBOA, better dynamics and better melodies overall.

Lowdz · « **Reply #47 on:** August 06, 2013, 01:55:31 AM »

TEI.
I wasn't that enamoured with OTBOA after the initial "it's new DT" phase. Worst song on ADTOE but still decent enough.
TEI sounds lively and I'm liking what I hear so far.

Laich21DT · « **Reply #48 on:** August 06, 2013, 02:10:05 AM »

Only listened to The Enemy Inside twice, so I can't say for sure, but right now, I'm leaning towards OTBOA. When I first heard OTBOA, it not only reassured that DT would be fine without Portnoy, I felt that they were headed in a musical direction that would be more appealing to me.

I like TEI, and don't mind the heaviness, but would be a little disappointed if most of the album is that heavy.

jsem · « **Reply #49 on:** August 06, 2013, 03:21:45 AM »

Quote from: Blackfield on August 05, 2013, 02:37:24 PM

OTBOA feels more solid for me.

SeRoX · « **Reply #50 on:** August 06, 2013, 03:32:18 AM »

Didn't like TEI and I don't think I'm gonna love it, iıt just doesn't feel right to me. I don't like OTBOA so much either but it's slightly better than TEI.

Meatrose · « **Reply #51 on:** August 06, 2013, 03:44:59 AM »

I need to listen to a new piece of DT music for an extended period of time before I can properly judge it so I won't be answering the poll at the moment.

Anyhow, what I can say is that I'll probably end up feeling that On The Backs Of Angels is a better song but that this is still "DT (the album) 1 - 0 ADTOE". Why? Simply because I'd like to think that this time around it was the BMU,BMD of the album that was chosen to represent the album as a single. Compared to BMU,BMD this is a huge improvement in my opinion.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #52 on:** August 06, 2013, 06:40:58 AM »

On The Backs Of Angels was a grower for me whilst The Enemy Inside shook me by the throat from the first note.

I like both but as of right now I love The Enemy Inside.

Spark Mandrill · « **Reply #53 on:** August 06, 2013, 08:53:05 AM »

Going with The Enemy Inside. The verses kind of plod in OTBOA, as much as I like the song. The Enemy Inside seems like one idea - a really cohesive song.

Jarzombek · « **Reply #54 on:** August 06, 2013, 08:59:19 AM »

The Enemy Inside, easily.

lyfeternl · « **Reply #55 on:** August 06, 2013, 09:44:35 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on August 06, 2013, 06:40:58 AM

On The Backs Of Angels was a grower for me whilst The Enemy Inside shook me by the throat from the first note.

I like both but as of right now I love The Enemy Inside.

Totally this! ^

The Boomr · « **Reply #56 on:** August 06, 2013, 12:22:11 PM »

Just thought of the perfect way to describe how I feel:

The Enemy Inside grabbed my attention much more immediately than On The Backs of Angels; OTBOA held my attention much longer than TEI did.

aprilethereal · « **Reply #57 on:** August 06, 2013, 12:50:25 PM »

Quote from: The Boomr on August 06, 2013, 12:22:11 PM

Just thought of the perfect way to describe how I feel:

The Enemy Inside grabbed my attention much more immediately than On The Backs of Angels; OTBOA held my attention much longer than TEI did.

TEI has only been out for one day and you already grew tired of it?

The Boomr · « **Reply #58 on:** August 06, 2013, 01:38:44 PM »

Quote from: aprilethereal on August 06, 2013, 12:50:25 PM

Quote from: The Boomr on August 06, 2013, 12:22:11 PM
Just thought of the perfect way to describe how I feel:

The Enemy Inside grabbed my attention much more immediately than On The Backs of Angels; OTBOA held my attention much longer than TEI did.

TEI has only been out for one day and you already grew tired of it?

I wouldn't say tired, necessarily. But as a general impression after 10 or so listens, I feel like there's not much nuance within it to keep me interested and dissecting it on the same level that there was and I did with OTBOA

JohnnyLayne · « **Reply #59 on:** August 06, 2013, 02:02:27 PM »

Quote from: snapple on August 05, 2013, 03:20:47 PM

JESUS

I clicked OTBOA and meant TEI. OTBOA was thick with "we need to prove something". TEI feels like "fuck yeah, DT". I don't know which I prefer as a song, but as they feel on day 1, TEI is much more fun to listen to.

This!!! (Yep I also accidentally voted OTBOA instead of TEI)

ronrule · « **Reply #60 on:** August 06, 2013, 02:29:10 PM »

Just my opinion, here. Obviously a song could have none of these "positives" and still be the best song, or it could tick off all the marks and be a steaming pile. Just thought I'd list some attributes.

OTBOA positives:
more audible bass
bass "solo"
better riffs
vocal harmonies
killer outro
song dynamics
piano
more interesting chorus melody

TEI positives:
more adventurous drumming
higher drum mix
cool intro, just kickin from the start
aggressive JLB vox

Dark Castle · « **Reply #61 on:** August 06, 2013, 02:30:52 PM »

Your positives are purely subjective for the most part, although I guess you never asserted them as facts.

I just find The Enemy Inside overall better.

Laich21DT · « **Reply #62 on:** August 06, 2013, 02:42:33 PM »

Quote from: ronrule on August 06, 2013, 02:29:10 PM

Just my opinion, here. Obviously a song could have none of these "positives" and still be the best song, or it could tick off all the marks and be a steaming pile. Just thought I'd list some attributes.

OTBOA positives:
more audible bass
bass "solo"
better riffs
vocal harmonies
killer outro
song dynamics
piano
more interesting chorus melody

TEI positives:
more adventurous drumming
higher drum mix
cool intro, just kickin from the start
aggressive JLB vox

I know you put solo in quotations, but I'd say it's a bit of a stretch to call that a "solo". It's like 3 seconds long.

Besides that, I pretty much agree. Though I'd add that the instrumental section and the keyboard solo in TEI are pretty sweet.

goo-goo · « **Reply #63 on:** August 06, 2013, 02:46:01 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on August 06, 2013, 06:40:58 AM

On The Backs Of Angels was a grower for me whilst The Enemy Inside shook me by the throat from the first note.

I like both but as of right now I love The Enemy Inside.

Same here

The riffs are just crushing!

Dekost · « **Reply #64 on:** August 06, 2013, 02:50:11 PM »

Both good tracks, I'd say On The Backs is a bit better for me. Although I feel that a better comparison would be The Enemy Inside vs Build Me Up, Break Me Down. That was the more "cutting-edge" metal-ish sounding piece of the record that was probably written to reach out to new fans among fanbases of younger bands, and this track seems to be meant to do the same (not that's it's a bad idea per se). The band said multiple times that On The Backs of Angels was released to "tell" the fans something along the lines of "listen, we're Dream Theater and we're giving you a track that sounds like us and it's long and cool to show that this is us and we're in good shape" but it didn't sound too much like something thought to "get" new fans, and this is the purpose that Build Me Up and this new track seem to be serving, even though they still sound like Dream Theater tracks. I don't know if I can get my point across. Anyway, if I had to compare it with Build Me Up, The Enemy Inside would definitely win hands down.

ronrule · « **Reply #65 on:** August 06, 2013, 02:54:28 PM »

Quote from: Laich21DT on August 06, 2013, 02:42:33 PM

I know you put solo in quotations, but I'd say it's a bit of a stretch to call that a "solo". It's like 3 seconds long.

So, did you get the point of the quotes or not?

Maybe it should more accurately be called soloed bass...

mrjazzguitar · « **Reply #66 on:** August 06, 2013, 02:54:51 PM »

surprised by the results.. I think OTBAO is 100x better than Enemy Inside

energythief · « **Reply #67 on:** August 06, 2013, 09:34:55 PM »

Voted for OTBOA, as I'm not as big a fan of straightforward "metal" DT.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #68 on:** August 06, 2013, 09:54:11 PM »

Quote from: energythief on August 06, 2013, 09:34:55 PM

Voted for OTBOA, as I'm not as big a fan of straightforward "metal" DT.

Why is metal in quotes? It's metal.

dongringo · « **Reply #69 on:** August 06, 2013, 10:27:48 PM »

The Enemy Inside by a mile. It hit me in the gut and hasn't let go since. OTBOA just wasn't near as powerful a single imo.

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Author Topic: The Enemy Inside vs. On The Backs Of Angels (Read 9555 times)