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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #280 on: October 04, 2014, 03:16:09 PM »
I don't know, I remember hearing about it in some shark video when I was 10 or so and I never bothered to look it up. So it being a myth is very plausible. I don't know how reliable this webpage is, but it does tone it down a great deal at least.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #282 on: October 29, 2014, 03:11:52 AM »
Yeah, I saw that. That's quite cool.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #283 on: October 29, 2014, 04:00:00 AM »
Whoa.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/pope-francis-takes-stand-evolution-against-magic-wands

Gotta say, the guy is quite likeable.

I was under the impression that Pius XII and JP2 had said pretty much the same in their times.
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #284 on: October 29, 2014, 11:52:18 AM »
They did, but Benedict contradicted it again. They also never said it so directly I think.
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #285 on: October 29, 2014, 12:00:41 PM »
Whoa.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/pope-francis-takes-stand-evolution-against-magic-wands

Gotta say, the guy is quite likeable.

My problem with this is that it still gives religion too much wiggle room. I've noticed across the internet that many religious folks have taken a liking to the idea that adaption exists, but not evolution. A lizard can adapt into different kind of lizards, naturally, but it will always be a lizard. It can never evolve into anything other than a lizard. I blame Ken Ham and his fucking "kinds" bullshit for that one.
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #286 on: October 29, 2014, 12:10:38 PM »
Frankly, people who don't want something to be true will always take the next best bogus thing to latch on. 50 years ago people were ranting about the "missing link", and the same types of people now yell that major speciation isn't possible.
I still think it's significant. It's important to see that at least one major Western religion is moving forward, especially among the extremist clamor of Islamists and evangelical Christians.
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« Reply #287 on: October 29, 2014, 02:56:18 PM »
I'll take it.
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #288 on: October 29, 2014, 03:15:08 PM »
That's pretty mind blowing to me, but then again I didn't know it's been (at least somewhat) supported for a while as I don't keep up with politics or religion (I suppose the Pope is religion's politics...). Interesting though, that the man highest in the religious community would actually have an open-mind about such matters. I'm not getting my hopes up for anything more than this stirring the pot a smidgen.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #289 on: October 29, 2014, 04:13:50 PM »
That's pretty mind blowing to me, but then again I didn't know it's been (at least somewhat) supported for a while as I don't keep up with politics or religion (I suppose the Pope is religion's politics...). Interesting though, that the man highest in the religious community would actually have an open-mind about such matters. I'm not getting my hopes up for anything more than this stirring the pot a smidgen.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #290 on: October 29, 2014, 07:36:32 PM »
The thing is, the only significant group of people that still follow the Pope's word are Catholics, and the official Catholic teaching has been evolution for some time now. The other denominations or believers that discount evolution probably don't think much of the Pope anyway. Still great to hear it though.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #291 on: October 29, 2014, 07:51:22 PM »
The US is mostly Protestant so it might be easy to discount the Pope, but 1.2 billion people in this world are nominally catholic, and that means something.
I am reasonably sure that quite a few people around the world will have said "I have heard about evolution as scientific fact, but if my pope supports it, that means something to me."
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #292 on: October 29, 2014, 08:45:54 PM »
Your right. I suppose my post mostly applies to the US.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #293 on: October 30, 2014, 07:44:48 AM »



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One in three Americans doesn't believe in evolution, according to new survey results from the Pew Research Center.

The results, released Monday in report on views about human evolution, show that 33 percent of Americans think "humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/30/evolution-survey_n_4519441.html





I would call that pretty fucking terrifying.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #294 on: November 23, 2014, 04:11:38 AM »
How to see air move:

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #295 on: December 06, 2014, 04:24:43 PM »
If you haven't seen it I highly recommend watching The Great Debate. It's very entertaining and interesting, especially part 2.

Part 1:
https://youtu.be/xI8JAnweXtA

Part 2:
https://youtu.be/oj1rAp4shvI

Featuring:
Bill Nye (science educator)
Neil deGrasse Tyson (astrophysicist)
Richard Dawkins (evolutionary biologist)
Brian Greene (theoretical physicist)
Ira Flatow (Radio host on Science Friday)
Neal Stephenson (science fiction writer)
Tracy Day (executive director of the World Science Festival)
Lawrence Krauss (theoretical physicist and cosmologist)
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #296 on: December 07, 2014, 06:45:13 PM »
I'm not sure if this deserves its own thread, but it is science...so I thought I'd ask some of the science nerds here.   It has to do with the Cascadia fault just 40 miles off the coast of Washington (running from southern BC down to northern California actually)

My wife and I *DREAM* of moving to the ocean.   And I'm not talking about being up on a bluff.  There's a small town just 20-40 feet above sea level that we've absolutely fallen in love with.    We keep thinking that if there was an earthquake, we would have time to evacuate.  (there is higher ground literally 5 minutes away...maybe less) 

But let me cut right to the chase.   IMO, there are two ways to read this article, and I want to make sure I'm not being thrown into a lot of worry over "panic media click bait".    Because if you read the headline, it would have you believing that "the big one" is imminent.   But if you actually read the article *AND THE ACTUAL STUDY* that is linked....it seems to be hinting that the fault could actually just be fully healing from the megashift 315 years ago...which would mean that the pressure will just be distributed elsewhere.

Anyone here who is into seismology who can interpret this article https://www.kplu.org/post/study-offshore-fault-where-big-one-originates-eerily-quiet and correlate it to this actual study:  https://www.bssaonline.org/content/early/2014/11/13/0120140095.abstract
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #298 on: December 19, 2014, 06:57:50 PM »
I can't even imagine the pressure at that depth. Funky looking thing too.
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #299 on: December 22, 2014, 02:30:18 AM »
^^That's awesome! That reminded me that I read somewhere about organic life forms on mars. Yes here it is:

https://www.cnet.com/news/curiosity-has-discovered-organic-matter-on-mars/


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What a glorious thing to read!  :metal
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #300 on: January 16, 2015, 05:57:06 AM »
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #301 on: January 21, 2015, 07:26:46 AM »
These Fibonaci sculptures animate under strobe lights!

https://www.littlethings.com/fibonaci-scuplture/
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #302 on: February 20, 2015, 04:28:24 PM »
The origin of the Indo-European languages traced back to the Russian steppes 6000 years back:

https://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/indo-european-languages-may-have-originated-6000-years-ago-russian-grasslands
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #303 on: May 27, 2015, 06:31:57 AM »
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #304 on: May 27, 2015, 10:05:42 AM »
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #305 on: June 05, 2015, 11:35:36 AM »
I was heating a small mount of water (maybe 0.75 inch) in a 4 quart sauce pan to remove some stuff stuck on the bottom.  There was no visible vapor coming off the surface, and it wasn't yet near boiling when I turned off the heat.  At that point, vapor started coming off the surface until I turned the heat back on which stopped the vapor.  I repeated this several times and each time, the addition of heat stopped the vapor.

Anyone care to explain?

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #306 on: June 05, 2015, 11:46:42 AM »
Electric or gas stove?

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« Reply #307 on: June 05, 2015, 03:07:30 PM »
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« Reply #308 on: June 05, 2015, 04:28:31 PM »
Apparently it's simply the steam becoming visible as it's temperature decreases.  True superheated stream is not visible, though partially condensed steam is.

I had to find a more brief description to search for an answer.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #309 on: June 09, 2015, 09:06:41 AM »
Saw a bunch of videos from the DARPA Robotics Challenge. It's really fascinating once you understand how complicated it is to write software for robots performing everyday tasks. We humans do alot of small adjustments subconsciously when we for example open a door so for a programmer it's a nightmare. It's hilarious to watch when they fail though.

These robots for example, with the task of opening a door and walk through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVxd6lZFKJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSK5yy9v9ik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yercjXbUOK8 My favourite  :lol

Love this one trying to do an obstacle course but utterly fails on the first step.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD2yBjT1NnU
 :lol

They do succeed also like this creepy thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_bvh6ckIM


Compilation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_QPGcjrh0

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« Reply #310 on: June 09, 2015, 09:11:07 AM »
I've only seen the video mocking the falling over, but I want to check out those full vids later. I find that stuff so fascinating, knowing how difficult it must be to program a machine to do tasks with such wide parameters and variables in the real world. I saw the history of Honda's robots recently on Youtube (who made ASIMO), which is a great watch.
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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #311 on: June 09, 2015, 09:17:18 AM »
I've been following the Darpa competition since the first race. Really fascinating stuff. I wish there was a TV show or something that followed the desgin teams up until competition.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #312 on: June 15, 2015, 11:14:47 AM »
https://money.cnn.com/2015/06/15/technology/hyperloop-competition/index.html?iid=SF_LN

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To help spur that innovation, SpaceX said it will build a one-mile test track near its headquarters in Hawthorne, California. And it's calling on engineering teams and universities to develop the pods that will shuttle people. An update on the company's website says a few competitors have already signed on.

I can't wait to see what the teams come up with.

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Re: The science and nature thread v. We tried this before
« Reply #313 on: June 16, 2015, 01:00:26 PM »
Maybe not science or nature, instead computer science:

https://gizmodo.com/thirty-year-old-commodore-amiga-still-controls-heat-and-1711257091

I had an Amiga back in the day. Awesome machine.
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