The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[OpenYourEyes311]

So apparently there's going to be a Metallica/A7X show in Minneapolis in August.  Looks like we're going.

That would be a fun concert

Wish they would tour together. Saw them both play together at Orion 2012 and it was awesome. It was the only time I'd seen A7X, though, and would love to see them again. And Metallica hasn't been to Boston in 7 years, so I'd like not to have to go to Minneapolis to see them. Hopefully they'll do one last big tour through the States after the new album.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

It will be at US Bank Stadium, the new Vikings stadium, which is still under construction.  Tickets go on sale next Friday and they're gonna go fast, as they're the second show playing there, the first being Luke Bryan the night before.

[black_biff_stadler]

Where's ya crown, Viking Nothing?

[ZKX-2099]

HAIL TO THE VIKING

[cramx3]

It will be at US Bank Stadium, the new Vikings stadium, which is still under construction.  Tickets go on sale next Friday and they're gonna go fast, as they're the second show playing there, the first being Luke Bryan the night before.

Yea I saw the info pop up on Facebook and thought to myself that would be such a cool concert to go to. Sadly it's not close enough to me nor is Metallica a band I'm willing to fly to see although they are now the band I've liked the longest without having seen (after finally seeing The Offspring last year).

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Well, it's a LOOOONG way for us to go also, and we're most certainly going to fly.  It's August 20th and jr. starts school on the 22nd.  He wants to see Metallica pretty badly.  And he'd be happy to see A7X again.  So we'll make a trip of it, go to Mall of America, see some other things, etc. 

[cramx3]

Well, it's a LOOOONG way for us to go also, and we're most certainly going to fly.  It's August 20th and jr. starts school on the 22nd.  He wants to see Metallica pretty badly.  And he'd be happy to see A7X again.  So we'll make a trip of it, go to Mall of America, see some other things, etc.

Having a child who wants to go is definitely some motivation for the trip if you ask me 

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Mrs. C. has already said "It's really probably not a great idea to do this, but WTH.  That's why we're not going to the beach this year, so we can do things like this instead."  That said, it means we may not be picking up tickets to Bad Company/Joe Walsh.  Unless of course we can't snag tickets to this show.

[cramx3]

Way better than a trip to the beach IMO

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Which is funny, because I'd rather spend a week at the beach. 

[cramx3]

Which is funny, because I'd rather spend a week at the beach. 

Im spoiled, I live close to the Jersey shore.  Which maybe isn't a good thing 

[Kotowboy]

So apparently there's going to be a Metallica/A7X show in Minneapolis in August.  Looks like we're going.

That would be a fun concert

Metallica playing Master of Puppets in full for the 30th anniversary and Avenged Sevenfold playing The Black Album in full..






or Hail To The King as they call it.

[Zook]

So apparently there's going to be a Metallica/A7X show in Minneapolis in August.  Looks like we're going.

That would be a fun concert

Metallica playing Master of Puppets in full for the 30th anniversary and Avenged Sevenfold playing The Black Album in full..






or Hail To The King as they call it.

The Black Album or Back in Black?

[IDontNotDoThings]

I remember one time when my mom came into my room when I was like 9 and looked at my copy of Load and said something like "oh neat, its a lava lamp" referring to the cover.

I looked her dead in the eye and said "yeah, definitely..."

Just be glad she didn't ask "what does a lava lamp have to do with Load?" 

I always thought it was meant to be liquid fire.



Don't ask me how that would work.

[Kotowboy]

Liquid Fire ?


So, a McDonalds coffee ?

[TheCountOfNYC]

I want to go so badly. Metallica and A7X are two of my big three bands (DT is the other) and I love Volbeat (the first opener) as well.

[axeman90210]

Well, it's a LOOOONG way for us to go also, and we're most certainly going to fly.  It's August 20th and jr. starts school on the 22nd.  He wants to see Metallica pretty badly.  And he'd be happy to see A7X again.  So we'll make a trip of it, go to Mall of America, see some other things, etc. 

Surly and Town Hall Brewery. Make sure you check out at least one.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Excellent.  I was going to be looking for a brewery to hit up, so thanks for the info.  Hoping that we will be able to get tix, because I have a feeling this is going to sell out FAST.

[BlobVanDam]

The Four Horsemen remastered-
https://soundcloud.com/officialmetallica/the-four-horsemen-remastered

I'm doing a side by side comparison with the original CD, and the good news is that there's not much difference in volume. It's a little bit louder, but the original wasn't that loud, so there's still no audible clipping or compression (the kick drum sounds a little clippy, but it actually sounds the same in the original, so I think that's just the production on the original audio). It's a little bit more trebly than the original, which I think has helped the mix all around, because on comparison the original sounds a bit lacking in those mids. The guitars sound a bit thicker, the bass guitar is more prominent, and the kick has a bit more attack to it. It's overall quite subtle, so may not be worth buying if you already have it, but if you don't, this will be good. I always thought Kill 'em All was a very good sounding album for the time anyway, so I don't think it needed a lot of retooling.

So far it appears that they're doing this right. I don't know if their approach will be the same for every album, but I'm still holding out faint hope that they'll remix AJFA, even if it's a bonus disc or something.

[sneakyblueberry]

ha, I thought they would've done something with the weird delay on the vocal.   gonna listen on headphones later on and see what's what.

[BlobVanDam]

So far these are just remasters, so nothing like that will be affected. With the exception of AJFA, I don't think they should touch the mixes, because it's how those albums were intended to originally sound.
It will be interesting to hear a remaster of TBA, because I can't imagine they can improve on it.

[Kotowboy]

So far these are just remasters, so nothing like that will be affected. With the exception of AJFA, I don't think they should touch the mixes, because it's how those albums were intended to originally sound.
It will be interesting to hear a remaster of TBA, because I can't imagine they can improve on it.

21st Century "remaster" = turn up the volume and treble.

[BlobVanDam]

So far these are just remasters, so nothing like that will be affected. With the exception of AJFA, I don't think they should touch the mixes, because it's how those albums were intended to originally sound.
It will be interesting to hear a remaster of TBA, because I can't imagine they can improve on it.

21st Century "remaster" = turn up the volume and treble.

Basically. They now assume everyone only listens to albums on their crappy little portable devices in noisy public places, so they smoosh everything into the mids where they know it will be heard on lowest common denominator devices, then crank the volume so it will be heard over all background noise.
One of the worst I've heard was the remastered version of Pantera - Cowboys From Hell, which did exactly that. Turned it into a distorted scratchy mess of unlistenable shit. The original sounded good. I'll stick to that.

[Randaran]

I'd never call the sound of an album with Dimebag's guitar tone "good". 

[Kotowboy]

I'd never call the sound of an album with Dimebag's guitar tone "good". 

This. He used digital amps. Before digital amps were any good like Axe FX.

[BlobVanDam]

I'd never call the sound of an album with Dimebag's guitar tone "good". 

He certainly didn't have the best tone, but overall the production was still good, and it worked in context with every other instrument. Regardless, the original release sounds infinitely better than the remaster, and luckily Metallica appear to have avoided the same fate with their remasters.

[Kotowboy]

Apparently Pantera albums sounded great super loud.

So i'll just have to take people's word for it


I realise they wanted a live band sound but I don't like when there's NO rhythm guitar under a solo.

[BlobVanDam]

It really comes down to the situation. When you have a wild guitar solo from someone as distinctive as Dimebag or EVH, and every instrument is playing a unique part, it works well to have no other guitars fighting for space, while still giving room for the drums and bass to shine. Then in a band like Metallica that is so rhythm focused with those thrash riffs and the whole band playing in unison, I think it needs the rhythm guitar because otherwise it would sound lacking and empty because there's not that variety underneath it to then fill that space. There's no one size fits all solution there.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

I'd never call the sound of an album with Dimebag's guitar tone "good". 

Agreed, but for some reason there are some young metal guitarists that seek that tone. Way too much high-end.

[Kotowboy]

All bass and treble. Zero mids. Really  digital gain. Awful.

[seasonsinthesky]

Gonna reserve judgement 'till it's out in lossless (hopefully on HDTracks). Howie Weinberg is remastering them and he's been completely ruining albums for the last decade or so.

[Ben_Jamin]

All bass and treble. Zero mids. Really  digital gain. Awful.

Imagine if he was still alive and decided to use Axe FX. But his tone made it possible to do that awesome high squeal in Cemetery Gates.

[Kotowboy]

You just can't beat valves in my opinion.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Tickets to this Minneapolis show are going to go FAST, I do think.  Yikes.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Got 'em.  Not great seats, but they're seats.

Guess we're going to Minneapolis in August.