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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1470 on: May 10, 2015, 10:32:23 AM »
I don't know. I still think their classic albums are truly great, but after St. Anger and especially Death Magnetic, I have kinda thrown in the towel on the band. They will probably make another album, and it might create some buzz, but I would still be hesitant. If it came out and got huge praise with nothing but good comments, with fans and critics alike praising it as one of the best albums of the year, then I would probably check it out, but otherwise I feel pretty hesitant.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1471 on: May 10, 2015, 11:16:57 AM »
I want them to retire.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1472 on: May 10, 2015, 01:35:27 PM »
Quote from: Zook on May 10, 2015, 11:16:57 AM
I want them to retire.

They should have done in 1999 after S&M. 
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1473 on: May 10, 2015, 02:09:57 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on May 10, 2015, 01:35:27 PM
Quote from: Zook on May 10, 2015, 11:16:57 AM
I want them to retire.

They should have done in 1999 after S&M. 

That would have been a great send off. They were still pretty tight back then.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1474 on: May 10, 2015, 02:20:36 PM »
I don't know what kind of rep S&M has among the Metallica fans, because I got into it (and the band) before I found out about message boards, but I think it's pretty darn awesome. I haven't listened to it in ages, but the band tried something different and it worked. I can imagine a lot of metalheads complaining that the orchestra made the songs "gayass", but as someone who doesn't care about how "metal" something is, I say bravo.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1475 on: May 10, 2015, 03:03:27 PM »
Quote from: Zantera on May 10, 2015, 02:20:36 PM
I don't know what kind of rep S&M has among the Metallica fans, because I got into it (and the band) before I found out about message boards, but I think it's pretty darn awesome. I haven't listened to it in ages, but the band tried something different and it worked. I can imagine a lot of metalheads complaining that the orchestra made the songs "gayass", but as someone who doesn't care about how "metal" something is, I say bravo.

I really loved S&M when it came out (still do). And yes, I also remember a metalhead saying to me that Metallica with an orchestra was 'freaking gay'. When I asked him to explain his opinion, he couldn't come up with a single argument as to why that would be gay. Some people are so incredibly close-minded.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1476 on: May 10, 2015, 04:10:15 PM »
Everyone I knew was balls deep about it when it came out.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1477 on: May 10, 2015, 04:15:57 PM »
I always really enjoyed that album.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1478 on: May 10, 2015, 04:24:06 PM »
The S&M version of One is one of the most magnificent pieces of music ever played.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1479 on: May 10, 2015, 05:06:44 PM »
I recall S&M being a huge hit when it was released amonst my group of friends and amongst what was seen as the gerneal consensus from my memory. I also still love it.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1480 on: May 10, 2015, 06:07:58 PM »
I have it, but I'm not sure I have ever listened to it.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1481 on: May 10, 2015, 10:28:56 PM »
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The S&M version of One is one of the most magnificent pieces of music ever played.

One of the few songs on the album that turned out magnificently. Unfortunately, most of the album just sounds like the orchestra and the band are playing two entirely different songs to me. Metal and orchestras can go together really well, but the individual styles just didn't work together in this case, at least on the thrashier stuff.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1482 on: May 11, 2015, 12:26:56 AM »
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Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on May 10, 2015, 04:24:06 PM
The S&M version of One is one of the most magnificent pieces of music ever played.
Unfortunately, most of the album just sounds like the orchestra and the band are playing two entirely different songs to me.
Pretty much how I felt when I heard S&M for the first time.
They didn't blend very well.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1483 on: May 11, 2015, 04:12:30 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Eq9RVKT9XQ

I'm not sure of newthis James Hetfield interview is, but I found it really interesting. More about him as a human being and guitar player and less about Metallica.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1484 on: May 11, 2015, 08:02:30 AM »
I loved the idea of S&M....but it didn't fulfill it's promise...alas.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1485 on: May 11, 2015, 11:20:29 AM »
Quote from: Lynxo on May 11, 2015, 04:12:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Eq9RVKT9XQ

I'm not sure of newthis James Hetfield interview is, but I found it really interesting. More about him as a human being and guitar player and less about Metallica.

I can listen to James Hetfield playing riffs for the rest of my life. He always talks about music with such passion and you can really hear that passion in his playing. He is so down to earth and you can tell that he truly loves what he does and is so grateful for the life he has.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1486 on: May 28, 2015, 11:15:32 AM »
I just found this, but maybe someone already posted it sometime ago. Anyway, it's basically how St. Anger could've sounded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU-UI3_6HcM
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1487 on: May 28, 2015, 12:31:45 PM »
Totally loved that Hetfield interview. What an inspiring dude.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1488 on: May 28, 2015, 12:39:06 PM »
Quote from: Onno on May 28, 2015, 11:15:32 AM
I just found this, but maybe someone already posted it sometime ago. Anyway, it's basically how St. Anger could've sounded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU-UI3_6HcM

This just proves what I've said all along.   St. Anger is an AWESOME album lost in a terrible production.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1489 on: May 28, 2015, 04:58:56 PM »
Definitely sounds thicker and heavier, but still doesn't change the fact that the songs are awful, IMO. Production wasn't the only problem with that album.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1490 on: May 28, 2015, 05:30:33 PM »
Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on May 11, 2015, 11:20:29 AM
Quote from: Lynxo on May 11, 2015, 04:12:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Eq9RVKT9XQ

I'm not sure of newthis James Hetfield interview is, but I found it really interesting. More about him as a human being and guitar player and less about Metallica.

I can listen to James Hetfield playing riffs for the rest of my life. He always talks about music with such passion and you can really hear that passion in his playing. He is so down to earth and you can tell that he truly loves what he does and is so grateful for the life he has.

I've seen that one before but I rewatched and realised that the riff at 7:00 sounds a lot like Rhiannon by Fleetwood Mac.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1491 on: May 28, 2015, 11:13:05 PM »
Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on May 28, 2015, 04:58:56 PM
Definitely sounds thicker and heavier, but still doesn't change the fact that the songs are awful, IMO. Production wasn't the only problem with that album.

Bingo. It's still repetitive bloated crap for the most part. The few half decent songs actually sound better on the real album. Playing the songs with slightly better drum and guitar sound doesn't change a thing.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
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« Reply #1493 on: May 29, 2015, 05:18:06 PM »
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« Reply #1494 on: May 29, 2015, 05:22:27 PM »
Is 'St. Anger' a bad album because of the songwriting or because of the production?

My own truth is that both aren't really that great, but the one redeeming quality actually IS the production. I can totally dig that for some reason. I still blast the album once in a while. It's fun for about 5 minutes.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1495 on: May 29, 2015, 06:02:24 PM »
Sweet!!! Metal Militia, Disposable Heroes and The Unforgiven II??

And they also didn't end with Seek & Destroy!  :tup
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1496 on: May 30, 2015, 01:27:42 AM »
Quote from: CharlesPL on May 29, 2015, 05:16:43 PM
What a great setlist in Germany ! :)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/metallica/2015/veltins-arena-gelsenkirchen-germany-4bc9a30a.html

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1497 on: May 30, 2015, 01:52:22 AM »
Quote from: PixelDream on May 29, 2015, 05:22:27 PM
Is 'St. Anger' a bad album because of the songwriting or because of the production?

My own truth is that both aren't really that great, but the one redeeming quality actually IS the production. I can totally dig that for some reason. I still blast the album once in a while. It's fun for about 5 minutes.

St Anger production is a choice. The mastering is actually alright. I love the vibe of St Anger despite the clangy snare sound.

Death Magnetic is just fucked up. The guitars are thin - there's no vocal harmonies and the audio is distorted.

It's much easier to listen to the CD of St. Anger than it is to listen to the CD of Death Magnetic.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1498 on: May 30, 2015, 08:50:01 AM »
Not if you have one of the GH mixes of DM instead of the released album.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1499 on: May 30, 2015, 10:50:41 AM »
Quote from: CharlesPL on May 29, 2015, 05:16:43 PM
What a great setlist in Germany ! :)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/metallica/2015/veltins-arena-gelsenkirchen-germany-4bc9a30a.html
I'll be ordering that show from Live Metallica. Wonder what other surprises are in store for this tour.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1500 on: May 30, 2015, 11:03:35 AM »
Quote from: Dimitrius on May 30, 2015, 08:50:01 AM
Not if you have one of the GH mixes of DM instead of the released album.

Quote from: Kotowboy on May 30, 2015, 01:52:22 AM

It's much easier to listen to the CD of St. Anger than it is to listen to the CD of Death Magnetic.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1501 on: May 30, 2015, 11:15:37 AM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on May 30, 2015, 11:03:35 AM
Quote from: Dimitrius on May 30, 2015, 08:50:01 AM
Not if you have one of the GH mixes of DM instead of the released album.

Quote from: Kotowboy on May 30, 2015, 01:52:22 AM

It's much easier to listen to the CD of St. Anger than it is to listen to the CD of Death Magnetic.

lol I caught that.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1502 on: May 30, 2015, 03:16:42 PM »
Quote from: TAC on May 30, 2015, 10:50:41 AM
Quote from: CharlesPL on May 29, 2015, 05:16:43 PM
What a great setlist in Germany ! :)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/metallica/2015/veltins-arena-gelsenkirchen-germany-4bc9a30a.html
I'll be ordering that show from Live Metallica. Wonder what other surprises are in store for this tour.

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« Reply #1503 on: May 30, 2015, 03:29:42 PM »
edit: nevermind, I came here to post the St. Anger fan re-recording but someone posted it a little while back. :lol
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #1504 on: May 30, 2015, 03:40:44 PM »
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The S&M version of One is one of the most magnificent pieces of music ever played.

One of the few songs on the album that turned out magnificently. Unfortunately, most of the album just sounds like the orchestra and the band are playing two entirely different songs to me. Metal and orchestras can go together really well, but the individual styles just didn't work together in this case, at least on the thrashier stuff.

"One" and "Hero Of The Day" always stood out to me as the best songs on S&M
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