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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4970 on: June 01, 2017, 07:59:48 AM »
Yea, every concert ticket in the NA tour comes with a copy of the album.  I mean that alone is going to get you your album sales.  Not to say that Metallica hasn't proven themselves over and over again with album sales though.

Great marketing strategy, I guarantee they built that into the cost of tickets, meaning it made sense financially for the band (they aren't just giving away 50,000 copies on any given night). So good on them I'd say.

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« Reply #4971 on: June 01, 2017, 08:06:29 AM »
Yea, I got to say, the show was worth the money IMO. It was an expensive concert, but both bands were great (I missed Volbeat) and what no one really realized was the Mix Master Mike from the Beastie Boys was the DJ in between sets.  He was actually great too.  All the fireworks and pyros.  It felt like a show worth big bucks because you can tell, it cost a lot to put on. 

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« Reply #4972 on: June 01, 2017, 08:26:30 AM »
Yea, I got to say, the show was worth the money IMO. It was an expensive concert, but both bands were great (I missed Volbeat) and what no one really realized was the Mix Master Mike from the Beastie Boys was the DJ in between sets.  He was actually great too.  All the fireworks and pyros.  It felt like a show worth big bucks because you can tell, it cost a lot to put on.

Yeah based on the production they are bringing out for these shows, the prices seemed about right to me. I'd happily have paid to see them but they skipped Pittsburgh on this tour, I'm still hoping they come back through NA in 2018 and do indoor arena shows or something. I bet they pull in 3 or 4 million at the door for each of these stadium shows, but I can't even begin to imagine the expenses of putting on a show of this scale.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4973 on: June 03, 2017, 06:46:32 AM »
Interesting pattern :

80s
Kill em all
Ride the lightning
Master of Puppets
And justice for all

90s
Metallica
Load
Reload

00s
St Anger
Death Magnetic

10s
Hardwired to Self Destruct.


To keep up this pattern the next album won't be out before 2020.


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« Reply #4974 on: June 03, 2017, 07:47:23 AM »
Or ever to really keep up the pattern  :lol

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« Reply #4975 on: June 03, 2017, 08:37:39 AM »
I don't think anybody in their right mind expected another album before 2020 anyway. And I certainly wouldn't be surprised if we never got another one.

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« Reply #4976 on: June 03, 2017, 09:55:10 AM »
I don't think anybody in their right mind expected another album before 2020 anyway. And I certainly wouldn't be surprised if we never got another one.

I think this is spot on. Optimistically, I'd love more studio material from the guys because I really like HWtSD, at this point I think it's my favorite since TBA, so I'd love more, but dunno. At the rate these guys work, retirement might come before a new studio album. That said, I think Metallica, Lars in particular would be open to less traditional methods of releasing music, meaning rather than releasing full albums, I think he'd be open to releasing an EP or even just individual tracks.

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« Reply #4977 on: June 03, 2017, 11:20:02 AM »
2021 would be my guess.

But they've said repeatedly that they're ashamed of their low output and that they always forget how much they enjoy creating and releasing new music.

Plus that 8 years was way too long.

I think late 2016 + 2.5 years touring + 2.5 years new album gestation.

Late 2021 is my conservative guess.

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« Reply #4978 on: June 03, 2017, 07:35:04 PM »
Or ever to really keep up the pattern  :lol
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« Reply #4979 on: June 03, 2017, 07:58:01 PM »
I feel like I've heard a bit from here and there that for a while James has wanted to record more often. I do feel sometimes like the guy is held back.

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« Reply #4980 on: June 03, 2017, 09:40:30 PM »
I don't expect another Metallica album. I do expect them to maybe take a year off from touring at some point and you'll see a Hetfield solo album then.
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« Reply #4981 on: June 04, 2017, 02:35:26 AM »
I don't expect another Metallica album. I do expect them to maybe take a year off from touring at some point and you'll see a Hetfield solo album then.

I'd be more excited about a Het solo album than anything else.

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« Reply #4982 on: June 04, 2017, 07:05:11 AM »
I feel like I've heard a bit from here and there that for a while James has wanted to record more often. I do feel sometimes like the guy is held back.

I get that feeling too, Kirk doesn't seem into it at all anymore.

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« Reply #4983 on: June 04, 2017, 07:15:42 AM »
As much as I would love a James solo album, I figure he'd have done one by now if he were going to.
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« Reply #4984 on: June 04, 2017, 09:41:57 AM »
As much as I would love a James solo album, I figure he'd have done one by now if he were going to.
I agree with this. Though I would be more interested in that than a Metallica album.

And I find Kotowboy's projected timeline extremely optimistic.

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« Reply #4985 on: June 04, 2017, 09:43:01 AM »
James doing a solo album would be pretty hypocritical, given all the shit that went down with jason.

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« Reply #4986 on: June 04, 2017, 09:52:33 AM »
Fadetoblack made a good point too, isn't that essentially the reason Jason was pushed out of the band.

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« Reply #4987 on: June 04, 2017, 09:57:45 AM »
Fadetoblack made a good point too, isn't that essentially the reason Jason was pushed out of the band.

Yup! Though people can change. Jason's thing was what...like 16 years ago or something? James is allowed to change his perspective on things, whether or not that makes him a hypocrite.
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« Reply #4988 on: June 04, 2017, 12:31:54 PM »
Completely true Adami, I wouldn't hold it against James doing a solo album, I'd welcome it because I largely believe he is the driving force behind current Metallica.

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« Reply #4989 on: June 04, 2017, 12:48:23 PM »
I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. The Newstead stuff was a long time ago and I'm sure he's a different person now.

Also it took Steve Harris 30 years to make a solo album so who knows. I could see him doing something in the vein of Load/Reload, more singer songwriter type stuff like Mama Said since Metallica doesn't really do that stuff anymore.
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4990 on: June 04, 2017, 01:01:06 PM »
I think there will be another album.

They've all said they'll keep going as long as they're physically able.


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« Reply #4991 on: June 04, 2017, 01:49:57 PM »
I think there will be another album.

They've all said they'll keep going as long as they're physically able.

In that case, two of them should have stopped already.
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« Reply #4992 on: June 05, 2017, 07:31:25 AM »
I feel like I've heard a bit from here and there that for a while James has wanted to record more often. I do feel sometimes like the guy is held back.

I get that feeling too, Kirk doesn't seem into it at all anymore.

He doesn't seem into it, but that wouldn't stop them from putting out another album or even probably alter the timeline to do so.

A new Metallica album comes down to two people: James and Lars. If they want to do an album, they will. Rob and Kirk will come play bass and solos and maybe throw in an idea or two. I think at this point Lars is without question, the reason for long gaps between albums. Lars is one of those guys that takes forever to do anything, is always late, etc.. everyone knows someone like that.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4993 on: June 05, 2017, 11:46:00 AM »
Have I done this before ?

Pick your favourite song from each of the 10 studio albums and one cover from Garage Inc.

1. The Four Horsemen
2. Ride The Lightning
3. Disposable Heroes
4. Frayed Ends of Sanity
5. Sad But True / Struggle Within
6. The Outlaw Torn
7. Carpe Diem Baby / Fixxxer
8. My World
9. All Nightmare Long
10. Dream No More
11. The More I See ( cover )

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« Reply #4994 on: June 05, 2017, 11:51:11 AM »
Probably, but let's do it again! Better than album rankings at least.

1. The Four Horsemen
2. Fade to Black
3. Orion
4. Dyer's Eve
5. The Unforgiven
6. Thorn Within
7. Fixxxer
8. Unnamed Feeling
9. Cyanide
10. Halo on Fire
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4995 on: June 05, 2017, 11:54:54 AM »
It's hard to pick a #1 from hardwired since Moth, Halo, Dream and Spit are all amazing.

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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4996 on: June 05, 2017, 12:00:16 PM »
Some of these are tough - I could list 5 different black album songs, depending on how I feel. 

1.  The Four Horsemen
2.  Creeping Death
3.  Disposable Heroes
4.  BLACKENED  :metal :metal :metal :metal
5.  The God That Failed
6.  Bleeding Me
7.  Fixxxer
8.  Do I have to pick one?  Fine, Frantic...for the music only. 
9.  All Nightmare Long
10. Spit Out The Bone

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« Reply #4997 on: June 05, 2017, 12:18:17 PM »
The Four Horsemen
Fade To Black
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Blackened
My Friend Of Misery
Bleeding Me
Carpe Diem Baby/Fixxxer (tie)
St. Anger
All Nightmare Long
Spit Out The Bone


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« Reply #4998 on: June 05, 2017, 01:17:52 PM »
Apologies in interrupting the lists, but after having a convo with the Mrs. over the weekend, I popped in LOAD for the first time in years. Nothing has really changed for me with that record. To me, it is a good hard rock record, but a difficult one to accept (even more than the Black album) coming from Metallica. However, it did spawn two songs I continue to really love:

Bleeding Me
Until it Sleeps

with an honorable mention to The Outlaw Torn.

I know it has been a decades old argument about Metallica, but they became such a different band after ...And Justice for All. Same band in name, different band in goals and direction. I think AJfA was the ultimate pinnacle just because they made what I refer to as "prog thrash," and it really took thrash as far as I think it can go. Which is the reason why i understand what they did with the Black album and the Loads. But I've never been able to really recapture my fandom of the band post-Justice.

But on Load, Bleeding Me and Until it Sleeps are just excellent hard rock songs for the ages, at least IMO. And they had something good with The Outlaw Torn as well, but it wasn't quite on the same level.

On to Re-Load...I haven't listened to that in ages. I sort of remember hearing that Fixxer is pretty good. We'll have to revisit...
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Re: The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded
« Reply #4999 on: June 05, 2017, 01:26:00 PM »
Reload is great.

Just turn it up loud and pretend it's not the same band who made Master of Puppets.

It's a really good rock album.

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« Reply #5000 on: June 05, 2017, 01:56:29 PM »
I agree with Bleeding Me and Until it Sleeps being Load's highlights!
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« Reply #5001 on: June 05, 2017, 02:00:58 PM »
1. The Four Horsemen
2. Creeping Death
3. Master of Puppets
4. Harvester of Sorrow
5. My Friend of Misery
6. Bleeding Me
7. Fixxxer
8. Shoot Me Again
9. All Nightmare Long
10. Dream No More
11. Turn the Page

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« Reply #5002 on: June 05, 2017, 06:22:51 PM »
No Remorse
Fight Fire With Fire
Battery
Dyer's Eve/One
Wherever I May Roam
Bleeding Me
Where the Wild Things Are
All Within my Hands
All Nightmare Long
Spit Out the Bone
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« Reply #5003 on: June 05, 2017, 07:33:30 PM »
Metal Militia
Creeping Death
Master of Puppets (toughest one to pick)
Blackened
Sad But True
King Nothing
The Unforgiven II
The Unnamed Feeling
All Nightmare Long
Dream No More
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« Reply #5004 on: June 05, 2017, 07:40:50 PM »
The Four Horsemen
Fade To Black
Master Of Puppets
Blackened
Through The Never
The Outlaw Torn
Fuel
St. Anger
All Nightmare Long
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