The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[Azyiu]

I still like quite a few songs from those two albums combined, so that's cool.  I think Devil's Dance is one of their better best post-Black Album tunes, and while half of Load is shit, the other half is really good.

Nothing can be shittier than Reload. I actually wanted to give it a second chance, but fell asleep when I listened to it in its entirety recently...

[Adami]

I still like quite a few songs from those two albums combined, so that's cool.  I think Devil's Dance is one of their better best post-Black Album tunes, and while half of Load is shit, the other half is really good.

Nothing can be shittier than Reload. I actually wanted to give it a second chance, but fell asleep when I listened to it in its entirety recently...

There's at least 5 really good songs on Re-Load, but yea, it has a good amount of meh.

[TAC]

There's ONE good song on Reload. Fuel.

[Adami]

There's ONE good song on Reload. Fuel.

Oh come now TAC. You might not like the rest of the album, but you have to at least recognize that songs like Unforgiven II, Devil's Dance, Where the Wild Things Are and Fixxxer are very well written, well performed songs, even if you don't dig them at all.

[wolfking]

I find Unforgiven II amazing.

[TAC]

There's ONE good song on Reload. Fuel.

Oh come now TAC. You might not like the rest of the album, but you have to at least recognize that songs like Unforgiven II, Devil's Dance, Where the Wild Things Are and Fixxxer are very well written, well performed songs, even if you don't dig them at all.

You're not going to make me listen to Reload again are you??

Someone was pimping Fixxxer a while back so I gave it a shot and, um no.
Ok, we're about to have a blizzard tomorrow. I'll try and give Reload a listen over the weekend and report back.

[Adami]

You're not going to make me listen to Reload again are you??

If I had to ability to make people do things, making you listen to ReLoad would not be on my list, no.

[TAC]

Too late. I owe you an answer. Been ages since I listened. Only memory that remained (see what I did there!)  is that it sucked. 

[wolfking]

Too late. I owe you an answer. Been ages since I listened. Only memory that remained (see what I did there!)  is that it sucked. 

You have a very bad Attitude towards this album Tim.

[TAC]

Too late. I owe you an answer. Been ages since I listened. Only memory that remained (see what I did there!)  is that it sucked. 

You have a very bad Attitude towards this album Tim.

That's what Mama Said.

[Adami]

She also said that you were a bad seed.

[wolfking]

Too late. I owe you an answer. Been ages since I listened. Only memory that remained (see what I did there!)  is that it sucked. 

You have a very bad Attitude towards this album Tim.

That's what Mama Said.

Wrong album mate, jeez!

[TAC]

Too late. I owe you an answer. Been ages since I listened. Only memory that remained (see what I did there!)  is that it sucked. 

You have a very bad Attitude towards this album Tim.

That's what Mama Said.

Wrong album mate, jeez!

So you're saying I should reload?

[KevShmev]

Fuel is a meh song.

Halo on Fire wasn't bad, but it didn't make me want to listen again.  It sounded like the chorus was supposed to be this catchy sing-along thing, but that's not really Metallica's forte.

[TAC]

Fuel is the only thing with any energy on Reload. I like it.

The coolest thing about Halo On Fire is the ending, very reminiscent of Black Sabbath's The Straightener, at the end of World Of Confusion.

[Mosh]

Going back to Hardwired, it's true that Spit Out the Bone is the anomaly of the album, although I don't know if you'd get much enjoyment out of it if you heard all the singles and still aren't digging it. The single selection for this album was really good IMO. You had the old school thrash song (complete with juvenile lyrics) with Hardwired, a more melodic almost 90s styled tune in Moth In Flame, and then Atlas Rise which had a MOP/AJFA melodic thrash metal type feel. The album in general does a good job at capturing all Metallica eras at their best.

Spit Out the Bone is easily the best song on the album closely followed by Atlas Rise.

You sir left out Moth In Flame. Those three are my absolute favs!!

Well we have the same top three then. 

[BlobVanDam]

I find Unforgiven II amazing.

One of my favourite Metallica songs from any album. Fuel too. Great bonehead rock/metal tune.

[Kotowboy]

There's ONE good song on Reload. Fuel.

Oh come now TAC. You might not like the rest of the album, but you have to at least recognize that songs like Unforgiven II, Devil's Dance, Where the Wild Things Are and Fixxxer are very well written, well performed songs, even if you don't dig them at all.

Reloads weak songs >> Loads weak songs.

[MirrorMask]

Actually I think the bad songs on ReLoad are really BAD. Borderline unlistenable. But yeah, The Memory Remains, The Unforgiven II, Fixxxer and Low Man's Lyric are wonderful.

[Kotowboy]

" unlistenable "

Attitude - great production, great playing, catchy chorus, good vocals, nice lead guitar

VS

Anything off Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music.

I know which i'd describe as *unlistenable*.

This Reload bashing is just for the sake of it.


There's *nothing* on Reload worse than Poor Twisted Me. I know thats my opinion but Load's stinkers always get overlooked exclusively because " it's not reload ". 

I'm not going to - but If I was to make a Best of Load/Reload playlist it would include about half of each album...

[Dream Team]

There's ONE good song on Reload. Fuel.

Oh come now TAC. You might not like the rest of the album, but you have to at least recognize that songs like Unforgiven II, Devil's Dance, Where the Wild Things Are and Fixxxer are very well written, well performed songs, even if you don't dig them at all.

Reloads weak songs >> Loads weak songs.

Agreed.

[Dream Team]

Fuel is a meh song.

Halo on Fire wasn't bad, but it didn't make me want to listen again.  It sounded like the chorus was supposed to be this catchy sing-along thing, but that's not really Metallica's forte.

Also agreed.

[fadetoblackdude7]

There's ONE good song on Reload. Fuel.

Oh come now TAC. You might not like the rest of the album, but you have to at least recognize that songs like Unforgiven II, Devil's Dance, Where the Wild Things Are and Fixxxer are very well written, well performed songs, even if you don't dig them at all.

Reloads weak songs >> Loads weak songs.

Agreed.

Yes

[MirrorMask]

There's *nothing* on Reload worse than Poor Twisted Me.

Well, Bad Seed kinda lives up to the first part of its title...

[mikeyd23]

When I'm in the right mood, both of the Loads do it for me. I easily consider both stronger than St. Anger.

[Kotowboy]

When I'm in the right mood, both of the Loads do it for me. I easily consider both stronger than St. Anger.

Oh God Yes.

Also the 10 absolute best songs from Load & Reload would be better than Death Magnetic.

[mikeyd23]

When I'm in the right mood, both of the Loads do it for me. I easily consider both stronger than St. Anger.

Oh God Yes.

Also the 10 absolute best songs from Load & Reload would be better than Death Magnetic.

I agree with that.

[Kotowboy]

Death Magnetic was the first time in their career where they stopped progressing and looked backwards.

Hardwired is a ton better but there's still nothing on there they've not done before.


After being a band for 35 years - Hardwired is quite an achievement. Most bands' tenth album isn't usually one of their all time best.

[MirrorMask]

LOADS - CONDENSED ANTI-DM VERSION:

01 Fuel
02 The Memory Remains
03 The House Jack Built
04 The Unforgiven II
05 Ain't My Bitch
06 Bleeding Me
07 Hero of the Day
08 King Nothing
09 Until it Sleeps
10 Fixxxer


Of course we could debate forever on which songs should be worth of a top 10, but such an album would indeed be better than Death Magnetic.

[Kotowboy]

Pretty much. I'd include Wild Things or Carpe Diem too but

<sub>I once made a playlist of all the "ballads" from the Loads. It looks quite good too :

1. Hero Of The Day
2. Until It Sleeps
3. Mama Said
4. Carpe Diem Baby
5. The Unforgiven II
6. Where The Wild Things Are
7. Low Man's Lyric
8. Fixxxer
9. Bleeding Me
10. The Outlaw Torn

68 minutes.</sub>





Also before anyone says Carpe Diem etc aren't Ballads...A Ballad literally is a story set to music. Nothing to do with tempo or guitar sound etc.

[jakepriest]

Death Magnetic was the first time in their career where they stopped progressing and looked backwards.

IMO DM is a better album than the previous three combined.

[Kotowboy]

It's better than Saint Anger and is more focussed than Reload but overall I'd take Reload.

I do like DM - don't get me wrong - the iTunes remaster makes it easier to enjoy.

But HTSD is the best album since " Metallica " for me.

[Mosh]

I prefer DM to everything post Justice including Hardwired.

[Kotowboy]

^ That's interesting ! Can you break down why you prefer DM to HTSD ?

I mean most people agree that Hardwired trounces Death Magnetic on nearly every level.

I'm not arguing - i'm genuinely curious.

It can't be the production. DM is thin and fuzzy and all the instruments sound bad. James vox are thin & dry and have no harmonies.

[Anguyen92]

To me, I can recall virtually every song on Death Magnetic with ease and it has some parts that I liked very much.  For Hardwired, that was not the case.  It's not a bad album, per se, it's just one that I honestly can't recall any memorable parts with ease and I can't see myself revisiting too often as much as Death Magnetic.  Of course, I say that as a casual listener of Metallica and metal music, so what do I know?