The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[fadetoblackdude7]

https://youtu.be/9tZrqNlQ7_Y

Right around the 10:25 mark.

[mikeyd23]

https://youtu.be/9tZrqNlQ7_Y

Right around the 10:25 mark.

Yup, that's it.

[cramx3]

https://youtu.be/9tZrqNlQ7_Y

Right around the 10:25 mark.

Yup, that's it.

Really interesting how he talks about how A7X was a close mouthed band and MP was not and this was an instance that showed that.

[Kotowboy]

Seems like a chill guy. I wish I was into AX7 more than I am.

He says Y'know even more than Billie Joe does though !

[Peace and Love]

How is this conversation even remotely on topic??

 

[jakepriest]

Because talking about the mediocre Metallica album is not fun 

[Kotowboy]

Because talking about the mediocre Metallica album is not fun 

Mediocre

Oh that's a good one.

It's easily their best album since Metallica.

[Adami]

Because talking about the mediocre Metallica album is not fun 

We haven't talked about Death Magnetic for a few pages now.

[Kotowboy]

Because talking about the mediocre Metallica album is not fun 

We haven't talked about Death Magnetic for a few pages now.

Hardwired...To Self Destruct is so much better than Death Magnetic.

It's like the difference from Kill Em All to Ride The Lightning.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Honestly, I cannot stop listening to Hardwired. I really think this could be a new classic!

[MirrorMask]

It's easily their best album since Metallica.

"Easily" in the sense that it didn't take that much of an effort to make an album better than the ones that followed the black album? 

[Adami]

I'd say it's better than ReLoad, but maybe on par with Load. However, songs like Fixxxer, Outlaw, Thorn Within, Mama Said etc are better than most Hardwired songs.

Doesn't really matter though. It's a great album. Better than their last two at least and that's enough for me.

[Jester]

Just listened to the Metallica provided YouTube playlist of the new CD.  I'm a bit indifferent on it after one listen.  There have been some hooks, but nothing that has hit me over the head and made me think I need to get back into Metallica.  Glancing over the last couple of pages, seems like the majority here like to love it.  Oh and somehow Avenged Sevenfold and Mike Portnoy came up.

[NoseofNicko]

I like the album, but I kinda agree that it's mediocre. Honestly I feel like I've heard like 80% of those riffs before.

[Train of Naught]

1. AJFA
2. RTL
3. MOP
4. Load
5. DM
6. TBA
7. KEA
8. Hardwired
9. Reload
10. St Anger

I wouldnt say hardwired is mediocre, but i find DM and Load (which to me, both sounds like they influenced hardwired) better in every single way.

[Jester]

I'm going to give it another try sometime this week, but I know all the songs that have made it into my top tier, 5 star playlist were love at first listen.  So with that in mind, it is very likely it will become just another post-Black album for me.

If I had it my way, I'd kick out Kirk and bring back Mustaine.  I'd love to see what the Mustaine-Hetfield-Lars songwriting team comes up with today (besides eventual news that one of them killed the other).  Loved Trujillo as a bassist pre-Metallica, so he's pulling.

I remember when Metallica was finally starting to break into the mainstream with the One video, my guitar buddies and I would refer to Kirk as that guitarist that hit the jackpot.  And that's when he was still putting out cool solos.  Other than long term camaraderie, not sure what the guy brings to the table of such a juggernaut as Metallica.

[Kwyjibo]

Because talking about the mediocre Metallica album is not fun 

You are only allowed to call it mediocre when the master of puppets agrees with you.

But still, I too find it mediocre.

[Kotowboy]

It's easily their best album since Metallica.

"Easily" in the sense that it didn't take that much of an effort to make an album better than the ones that followed the black album? 

[aurorablind]

I've been listening to this album every day since it's release (at least parts of the album).
ManUNkind and Murder One are still the only tracks I can't get into. The rest of the songs range from awesome to pretty good.
Halo on Fire and Spit out the Bone are my absolute favorites. Fantastic songs!
What I like about this album is that it feels like an inspired band who just wanted to make good songs, and didn't really think about making an album that sounds like this or that. Some songs suffers from having to much stuff in them, like they didn't know when to stop pushing ideas into them.

Ranking of all Metallica-albums so far:

1. Master of Puppets
2. ...and Justice for All
3. Load
4. Black Album
5. Ride the Lightning
6. Hardwired.. to Self Destruct
7. ReLoad
8. Kill 'em All
9. Death Magnetic

Complete bag of shit: St. Anger....

[Kotowboy]

No idea where i'd rank HTSD but it's definitely upper mid tier.

[Art]

As of now:

1 - MOP
2 - AJFA
3 - RTL
4 - TBA
5 - Load
6 - HWTSD
7 - KEA
8 - Reload
9 - DM
10 - St Anger

[Kotowboy]

Probably #4 at the minute. More fun than Load and Reload. Not quite as consistent as The Black Album.

[mikeyd23]

I wouldnt say hardwired is mediocre, but i find DM and Load (which to me, both sounds like they influenced hardwired) better in every single way.

Interesting, I'd respectfully disagree, particularly when comparing Hardwired and DM. To my ears, its the opposite, I think Hardwired has better song writing, performances, production, etc...

If I had it my way, I'd kick out Kirk and bring back Mustaine.  I'd love to see what the Mustaine-Hetfield-Lars songwriting team comes up with today (besides eventual news that one of them killed the other).  Loved Trujillo as a bassist pre-Metallica, so he's pulling.

Don't get me wrong here, I think Kirk has been pretty underwhelming since basically his contributions to the Loads, but kicking Kirk out and bringing Dave back would be a disaster. If you'd like to see Metallica end their careers (due to in-fighting) then it would be a great plan I guess.

[Bolsters]

I wouldnt say hardwired is mediocre, but i find DM and Load (which to me, both sounds like they influenced hardwired) better in every single way.

Yeah, I can get behind that.

I think the only real "problem" I have with Hardwired thus far is that it's just so incredibly forgettable. When I'm listening to it I'm thinking "ok this isn't that bad" but a while after it's over, I can't remember much. It has a tendency to just blur together and the most memorable bits are still the singles for me. I think I'm going to need to start listening to the songs individually.

[cramx3]

After some more listens, I would rate this above mediocre but not as a great album.  Better than expected from Metallica at this point, but I would say about 25% of the album feels like filler another 25% is awesome and the rest is just solid, but not spectacular.  And I don't mean that % in songs, but in music on the album.  A lot of songs just feel like they drag a bit.  Just chugging along with riffs that feel familiar and kind of just blends in with the rest of the album.  The melodies are pretty great on some songs, love Halo on Fire and Spit out the Bone.

[TAC]

It's a shame that Metallica's studio output has been so few and far between, and iffy and that, that we greet Hardwired like it's all kinds of awesome. I'm not saying it sucks. It definitely does not. It's great to hear them rocking out. It's a good album.

After some more listens, I would rate this above mediocre but not as a great album.  Better than expected from Metallica at this point, but I would say about 25% of the album feels like filler another 25% is awesome and the rest is just solid, but not spectacular.  A

Yeah, I agree.

[Kotowboy]

I wouldnt say hardwired is mediocre, but i find DM and Load (which to me, both sounds like they influenced hardwired) better in every single way.

Except for Vocals, Production, Drumming, Arrangement and Lyrics.

I can't say that Death magnetic is better than Hardwired in any of those areas.

[mikeyd23]

I wouldnt say hardwired is mediocre, but i find DM and Load (which to me, both sounds like they influenced hardwired) better in every single way.

Except for Vocals, Production, Drumming, Arrangement and Lyrics.

I can't say that Death magnetic is better than Hardwired in any of those areas.

Yeah I'm with you on this one Kotow, I think Hardwired is their best since TBA or Load.

[cramx3]

I wouldnt say hardwired is mediocre, but i find DM and Load (which to me, both sounds like they influenced hardwired) better in every single way.

Except for Vocals, Production, Drumming, Arrangement and Lyrics.

I can't say that Death magnetic is better than Hardwired in any of those areas.

Yeah I'm with you on this one Kotow, I think Hardwired is their best since TBA or Load.

Agreed as well, but that's not saying much.

[mikeyd23]

Agreed as well, but that's not saying much.

  Well I guess it depends, for me that puts Hardwired probably somewhere in the middle of their catalog. For this point in their career, I consider that pretty good.

[cramx3]

Agreed as well, but that's not saying much.

  Well I guess it depends, for me that puts Hardwired probably somewhere in the middle of their catalog. For this point in their career, I consider that pretty good.

Yea, it's hard to complain about this release.  It's much better than I expected.  It's probably somewhere in the middle for me as well.

[MirrorMask]

My rankings would be:
- Ride and Master absolute favorites
- Black album, debut and Justice come next
- Hardwired
- Load
- Death Magnetic
- Reload
- that other thing

Load's highs may be higher than the highs of Hardwired, but Load's lows are lower. Hardwired is more consistent throughout.

[mikeyd23]

Yeah, I'm not sure if I have done this already, but my Metallica rankings change periodically. So, as of today, I'd say:

1. TBA
2. RTL
3. MOP
4. AJFA
5. Load
6. HWTSD
7. Reload
8. KEA
9. DM
10. SA

[Kotowboy]

Agreed as well, but that's not saying much.

  Well I guess it depends, for me that puts Hardwired probably somewhere in the middle of their catalog. For this point in their career, I consider that pretty good.

Yeah I guess it's not saying much depending on how you feel about Load and Reload. I love them so...

If you're the type of fan who thought Load, Reload and Saint Anger were all "shit" then it probably does sound good.

But yeah - for a band that have been going 35 years - for it to be THIS good is quite something and probably the best album they could have made at this point.

It was never going to be Master Of Puppets meets The Black Album in terms of amazing sonics coupled with outstanding songs but it's pretty close.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Ride The Lightning
Master Of Puppets
Metallica

...And Justice For All
Kill 'Em All
Hardwired...To Self-Destruct
Load
Reload
Death Magnetic






St. Anger