The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[Kotowboy]

Lulu is an album that seems to have unfortunately gotten the worst of both worlds from the fans.

A lot of Lou Reed fans saw the Metallica label and considered it too pedestrian for their tastes, while Metallica fans called it utter shite as soon as there's any hint of 'weirdness' or experimentation on it.

It's possible to just not dig something without it being due to ignorance or stubbornness or anything like that.

Indeed. But mostly the reaction was ROFL OLD MAN rmabling over metallica jamming I AM TEH TABLEE!!!!1111 LOLOLOLOL


have you never heard of METAPHORS ?

[Adami]

To be fair, whatever the intention, Hatfield yelling I AM THE TABLE over and over was pretty funny.

[Kotowboy]

On a surface level, sure.

[Zook]

I appreciate Lulu for giving Botchamania more material.

Also, you don't have to be a Metallica fan or a Lou Reed fan to be turned off by the style of Lulu. Not every mass opinion is from bandwagoning.

[KevShmev]

Also, you don't have to be a Metallica fan or a Lou Reed fan to be turned off by the style of Lulu. Not every mass opinion is from bandwagoning.

Exactly.  It's a shitty record by just about any measure.

[Mosh]

It's the delivery that makes I Am The Table funny, not so much the content. Similar effect as the "my music player" thing on The Astonishing.

[Mladen]

I still think that's why they did the collaboration to begin with. They both have some of the most opinionated passionate fans in the world, they probably wanted to piss off both fanbases.

Very well said. Both Metallica and Lou Reed fans can get very critical and negative. There was no way to steer the project in such direction that would please the fans to begin with. From the get go, it was obvious that people would have trouble with it. But that's what enabled them to be completely free and spontaneous, I think.

[ThatOneGuy2112]

Lulu is an album that seems to have unfortunately gotten the worst of both worlds from the fans.

A lot of Lou Reed fans saw the Metallica label and considered it too pedestrian for their tastes, while Metallica fans called it utter shite as soon as there's any hint of 'weirdness' or experimentation on it.

That's a super judgmental perspective. I like weird music just fine. I just didn't like Lulu. It's possible to just not dig something without it being due to ignorance or stubbornness or anything like that.

That's completely fair. I meant it in terms of the extremes on both sides. Granted, it can be said about almost any artist's fanbase, but I feel Metallica and Lou Reed's were among the most toxic, at least at the time of Lulu's release.

[Kotowboy]

https://youtu.be/tj3XWYQoQio?t=2m24s


This is worse.

[eric42434224]

https://youtu.be/tj3XWYQoQio?t=2m24s

This is worse.

I havent heard Lulu, but I would not call it a ringing endorsement if you have to point to that and say "This is worse."
I think I will pass on ever listening to Lulu.

[Kotowboy]

[Adami]

https://youtu.be/tj3XWYQoQio?t=2m24s


This is worse.

Hmmm, not so sure it was. Of course I didn't listen to the whole thing.

[Zook]

If Moth Into Flame was on ...And Justice For All:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3TBfBDeCPo

[LCArenas]

I appreciate Lulu for giving Botchamania more material.bandwagoning.

JEEZUS

[Kotowboy]

If Moth Into Flame was on ...And Justice For All:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3TBfBDeCPo

Those guitars - they sound like your sinuses are all blocked up.

[Zook]

If Moth Into Flame was on ...And Justice For All:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3TBfBDeCPo

Those guitars - they sound like your sinuses are all blocked up.

How do you know about my sinuses?!?!

[Kotowboy]

I know 3 things.

Your sinuses

Sky is up

ground is down.

[fadetoblackdude7]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallica-photos-from-new-video-shoot/

Another video coming, my guess is for Murder One.

[Kotowboy]

They've done videos for 5 songs in total. Nobody knows which order they're coming out or for what song this current video is for.

Confirmed videos = Dream No More and Now That We're Dead.

[fadetoblackdude7]

They've done videos for 5 songs in total. Nobody knows which order they're coming out or for what song this current video is for.

Confirmed videos = Dream No More and Now That We're Dead.

Goddamn....they're on a roll!

[mikeyd23]

Wow, I wonder if they are going to do a video for each song?

[Kotowboy]

Who knows.

Maybe they are or they want to finish up all the videos before they head out on tour so the label can dish them out one at a time.

[kaos2900]

I guess I don't understand why they are making so many videos. They don't need the publicity. Maybe they wanted to make another video collection to sell? It's their money, but seems unnecessary to me.

[Kotowboy]

Maybe they're super proud of this new album and want to promote the shit out of it to let everyone know that they're back .

And this time the production is great too.

IMO - lots of people use YouTube to listen to music. Why not do a budget video for each song on the album instead of just streaming the audio ?

It'll probably bring in more revenue if people are watching all the videos.

I dunno i can think of a few reasons...

[MirrorMask]

Maybe they're super proud of this new album and want to promote the shit out of it to let everyone know that they're back .

And this time the production is great too.

IMO - lots of people use YouTube to listen to music. Why not do a budget video for each song on the album instead of just streaming the audio ?

It'll probably bring in more revenue if people are watching all the videos.

All of these combined, probably.

[Kotowboy]

It makes sense to do lots of low budget videos instead of wasting all your money on one massive production.

The video for Hardwired is great and took them 9 takes and was on line two days later.

They did Moth Into Flame and Dream No More in the same day.

I don't know how much the video for " The Day That Never Comes " cost but i'll bet it was a lot.

For my bro to do a video like Moth Into Flame - he would charge about £5,000 at the most.

If Metallica spend *roughly* $5,000 a video that's $60,000 for all the songs on the album.

If each of those videos gets hundreds of thousands of youtube views they might even recoup it instead of one video that cost like $100,000.

[cramx3]

Maybe they're super proud of this new album and want to promote the shit out of it to let everyone know that they're back .

And this time the production is great too.

IMO - lots of people use YouTube to listen to music. Why not do a budget video for each song on the album instead of just streaming the audio ?

It'll probably bring in more revenue if people are watching all the videos.

All of these combined, probably.

Not only that, but the label makes ad money from youtube.  Releasing all these videos at low budget could potentially turn a small profit, none the less also add exposure and increase album sales.

If a band can do it, why not?

[fadetoblackdude7]

They did Moth Into Flame and Dream No More in the same day

How do you know all this?

[Kotowboy]

So What!



It's all on the MetClub news side...

When they relaunched the official website - they made the MetClub free so I joined of course.

Access to all the exclusive videos and stuff from over the years.

[fadetoblackdude7]

So What!



It's all on the MetClub news side...

Hmm I need to look into this stuff more

[Kotowboy]

So What!



It's all on the MetClub news side...

Hmm I need to look into this stuff more

Met Club is free now.

[mikeyd23]

Yeah So What! stuff on Metallica.com is awesome, I joined the MetClub when they made it free too. They have been doing a great job giving behind the scenes type content through this promo cycle.

[Kotowboy]

Plus there's loads of free audio downloads.

[Kotowboy]

So far we've had videos for

Hardwired.
Moth into flame.

Confirmed videos :

Dream no more.
Now that we're dead.

Rumoured videos ( from fans who attended the shoots ) :

Atlas, Rise!
Halo On Fire.


That's basically all of disc 1. Maybe they're doing vids for every song.

[Adami]

I think they should troll everyone and make a brand new video for Jump in the Fire.

Not a recording mind you, but the original 1983 recording, but a new video of them lipsyncing to it.