The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[BlobVanDam]

Does having less length on a CD contribute to sound quality? I'm probably confusing that with cassettes or LPs.

It makes a difference for both cassette and vinyl in different ways, but doesn't have any effect on CDs. It either fits, or it doesn't, always the same quality.

[Zydar]

Does having less length on a CD contribute to sound quality? I'm probably confusing that with cassettes or LPs.

It either fits, or it doesn't, always the same quality.

[BlobVanDam]

ZYDAR!

[ariich]

[devieira73]

Songs time lenghts: https://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/tontraeger/cd/3cd-digi/metallica-hardwired-to-self-destruct.html

CD 1:
1   . Hardwired   03:09
2   . Atlas, Rise!   06:28
3   . Now That We're Dead 06:59
4   . Moth Into Flame 05:50
5   . Dream No More 06:29
6   . Halo On Fire 08:15
CD 2:
1   . Confusion   06:43
2   . ManUNkind   06:55
3   . Here Comes Revenge 07:17
4   . Am I Savage?   06:30
5   . Murder One   05:45
6   . Spit Out The Bone 07:09

[Kotowboy]

Does having less length on a CD contribute to sound quality? I'm probably confusing that with cassettes or LPs.

Not on a digital medium, no.

It's just that if you absolutely fill an audio CD to the very last second - it is prone to playback issues.

[Kotowboy]

ZYDAR!

If you cross Blob with Zydar you get :








BLOB-ERT Z(Y)DAR !!!!

[Kotowboy]

Songs time lenghts: https://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/tontraeger/cd/3cd-digi/metallica-hardwired-to-self-destruct.html

CD 1:
1   . Hardwired   03:09
2   . Atlas, Rise!   06:28
3   . Now That We're Dead 06:59
4   . Moth Into Flame 05:50
5   . Dream No More 06:29
6   . Halo On Fire 08:15
CD 2:
1   . Confusion   06:43
2   . ManUNkind   06:55
3   . Here Comes Revenge 07:17
4   . Am I Savage?   06:30
5   . Murder One   05:45
6   . Spit Out The Bone 07:09

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=38115.msg2217205#msg2217205

[devieira73]

 

[Kotowboy]

I would hug you but i'm an emotionless Vulcan. 
















Aw Hell.

[devieira73]

   Well, I made that with truly good intentions! 
Now, back to topic, Vulcan!

[Kotowboy]

  Well, I made that with truly good intentions! 
Now, back to topic, Vulcan!

[Kotowboy]

Metallica shooting a video for what is highly likely to be " Moth Into Flame ".

iTunes is now showing Moth Into Flame as being 5:50

So that confirms both the Nuclear Blast track lengths AND the next single.

iTunes song lengths usually only pop up once a song is released or due to be released.



Also Lars changed his kit colour again finally. Bye Bye Orange Drumkit. You served us well.

[kaos2900]

Didn't they wear those same clothes in the last video?

[fadetoblackdude7]

Kirk has the wah pedal in front of him

[Mladen]

How do they justify this being a double album when it can fit on one CD? I think it's even shorter than Load.

[Big Hath]

Kirk has the wah pedal in front of him

seems like he should go ahead and have shoes made that have a wah pedal built in

[Kotowboy]

How do they justify this being a double album when it can fit on one CD? I think it's even shorter than Load.

They wanted it in 2 parts.

[Mladen]

They could have achieved that by splitting the album in two acts in the track listing the way Dream Theater did it. It only makes sense if it's a conceptual album, though, or if the two discs have contrasting styles. Which I don't think is a case here, we're talking about Metallica. We'll see.

[MirrorMask]

If only they had more material to actually go over the 80 minute mark, like, dunno, I improvize on the moment, a song called Lords of Summer or something.

 

[BlobVanDam]

What does wanting it in 2 parts even mean? I agree with Mladen. Is there any reason for it, or a clear division in style? Highly doubtful at best. It won't be in two "parts" when I download it digitally and ignore their stupid idea of splitting it between two discs.
I think they probably just committed to possibly requiring a double disc before the track list and master was finalized, then ended up stuck with justifying it when it ended up ultimately unnecessary.

[Kotowboy]

Or they just liked the idea of two discs.


And Lords of Summer 2016 studio recording is on disc 3.  It's a shorter runtime than the demo versions so hopefully it's had an overhaul.

[MirrorMask]

More justification to put it on the actual album then. The only reason I can think of is that they wanted "the new album" to be completely full of unreleased new material, and that it would have seemed cheap to put a song already released one or two years before.

[IDontNotDoThings]

And Lords of Summer 2016 studio recording is on disc 3.  It's a shorter runtime than the demo versions so hopefully it's had an overhaul.

Where did you get that from? On Wikipedia it says the length is 8:21, which is the same length as the demos.

[Kotowboy]

https://www.nuclearblast.de/en/products/tontraeger/cd/3cd-digi/metallica-hardwired-to-self-destruct.html

[IDontNotDoThings]

Ah, okay. 

[Kotowboy]

Some people on the Metallica forum are *adamant* that because this new album is only 6 tracks and under 40 mins per disc -

- that it's not actually an album - it's a double EP.

12 tracks and 77 minutes and it's not an album.   What a time to be alive.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Some people on the Metallica forum are *adamant* that because this new album is only 6 tracks and under 40 mins per disc -

- that it's not actually an album - it's a double EP.

12 tracks and 77 minutes and it's not an album.   What a time to be alive.

lol dumbasses

[Kotowboy]

I really liked their Quadruple EP Load and Reload

[Onno]

Metallica's performance at Global Citizen on the 24th: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yttdek25sqg .

I think Kirk's MoP solo is one of the tightest I've heard from him in recent years... Such a shame Lars has to increase the tempo that much directly after it.

[dparrott]

Some people on the Metallica forum are *adamant* that because this new album is only 6 tracks and under 40 mins per disc -

- that it's not actually an album - it's a double EP.

12 tracks and 77 minutes and it's not an album.   What a time to be alive.

Under 40 mins qualifies as an album for other bands but not Metallica?    

[LCArenas]

NEW SONG AND VIDEO, Moth into Flame

Eh, it starts quite weak at the beginning but it catches up from the solo onwards. Didn't like it as much as Hardwired, but I guess it's Okay.

[BlobVanDam]

Stylistically this is a crapload better than Hardwired, not balls to the wall thrash, some vocal harmonies in the pre-chorus, and Kirk's soloing is greatly improved since DM. I also love the production. No complaints there.
But again, the song is quite forgettable (but again, better than Hardwired). Has Hetfield forgotten how to write a vocal melody? The verses are identical to Hardwired, basically the same notes repeatedly. You can sing a metal song without sticking to the root note! At 6 minutes long, it didn't feel drawn out, it felt justified, pretty straight up structure, more like TBA, which I liked. And I'm glad there will be vocal harmonies, because DM was severely lacking there.

I'm losing faith they can even write songs as strong as DM any more, but given the better style and production here, I hope they can manage something I really enjoy on the album.

[cramx3]

Metallica is doing a club show at Webster Hall in NYC tomorrow.  That would be amazing to see.

[LCArenas]

But again, the song is quite forgettable. Has Hetfield forgotten how to write a vocal melody?

Not to mention I find the chords in the verses quite similar to both The "Time, has taken its toll on you" part of The Four Horsemen, and the verses in The End of the Line (But slower)