The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[mikeyd23]

BUT - he says that Hardwired...To Self Destruct is less progressive than Death Magnetic and a lot more focused on grooves. Which is FINE by me.

This would be a welcome approach IMO. Death Magnetic had some great moments, but I thought it was a little too all over the place. A lot of the songs would have benefited from sticking with an established groove a little longer rather than jarringly changing pace randomly.

[Kotowboy]

I thought Hardwired showed promise at least in the arrangement department.

If they can apply that level of precision to the longer songs - we might get a couple of Master of Puppets style long songs and less Invisible Kid.

[fadetoblackdude7]

I thought Hardwired showed promise at least in the arrangement department.

If they can apply that level of precision to the longer songs - we might get a couple of Master of Puppets style long songs and less Invisible Kid.

Invisible what?

[Kotowboy]

CD 1:
1 Hardwired 3:09
2 Atlas, Rise! 06:28
3 Now That We're Dead 06:59
4 Moth Into Flame 05:50
5 Dream No More 06:29
6 Halo On Fire 08:15
CD 2:
1 Confusion 06:43
2 ManUNkind 06:55
3 Here Comes Revenge 7:17
4 Am I Savage? 06:30
5 Murder One 05:45
6 Spit Out The Bone 07:09



This was taken from Nuclear Blast's website and has not been denied or confirmed by Metallica yet so...

Apparently it all adds up to 77:30 so it *could* be correct.

Guess we'll wait and see.

[BlobVanDam]

If it is 77:30, why would they require two discs?
Anyone could make up random numbers, so I'll disregard it until I read something from an official source, but numbers are mostly trivial at this stage.

[Mosh]

Well the double album thing is silly if this is true. Although that would be a solid range of song lengths.

[425]

I've been talking about this since the announcement! They said in the official announcement, "Two discs, nearly 80 minutes of music is coming your way." So it's long been clear that this is a single album pointless made into a double album.

Yes, I am a little salty that no one took serious notice of it even though I think I mentioned it twice in the thread.

[cramx3]

I've been talking about this since the announcement! They said in the official announcement, "Two discs, nearly 80 minutes of music is coming your way." So it's long been clear that this is a single album pointless made into a double album.

Yes, I am a little salty that no one took serious notice of it even though I think I mentioned it twice in the thread.

I recall talking about it quite a bit a few weeks ago.

[BlobVanDam]

I've been talking about this since the announcement! They said in the official announcement, "Two discs, nearly 80 minutes of music is coming your way." So it's long been clear that this is a single album pointless made into a double album.

Yes, I'm a little salty that no one took serious notice of it even though I think I mentioned it twice in the thread.

I recall it being discussed a lot in this thread since that announcement. I just expected the length would be close enough to 80 minutes to justify making the call. Heck, disc 1 of The Astonishing is only a few seconds off a full 80 minutes, so anything under 80 minutes should really be a single disc.

[Kotowboy]

Apparently Lars wanted it on two discs regardless.

I'm not fussed. It makes for a nicer package and yo can sequence it however you want anyway when you import it...

The CD box will just sit in a pile or on your rack or wherever.


The vinyl and Deluxe Edition artwork is different to the normal edition. The Vinyl one is kinda cool.

https://metallica.com/blog/news/429181/hardwired-to-self-destruct-available-november-18-2

[Scorpion]

Isn't spreading stuff out across two discs one of those tricks to artificially inflate the number of albums sold? Because each copy counts as two albums, and all that.

[Kotowboy]

Isn't spreading stuff out across two discs one of those tricks to artificially inflate the number of albums sold? Because each copy counts as two albums, and all that.

Apparently it has to add up to over 100 minutes - according to Blob. So I doubt it's that.

Probably more to do with having a double album package in this modern day and age or something.

[mikeyd23]

I've been talking about this since the announcement! They said in the official announcement, "Two discs, nearly 80 minutes of music is coming your way." So it's long been clear that this is a single album pointless made into a double album.

Yes, I am a little salty that no one took serious notice of it even though I think I mentioned it twice in the thread.

I recall talking about it quite a bit a few weeks ago.

Ditto. Like 425 said, the press release stated that everything totaled under 80 minutes. So, yeah, I've been wondering why they would put it on two discs from the start.

[TAC]

Good call, 425!


 

[Kotowboy]

I think the correct answer is " why not ? ".

[fadetoblackdude7]

Maybe the split-up was because of a theme between the halves and not a duration thing.

[pogoowner]

I'm just assuming they think it looks "cooler" or more impressive as a double album.

[Kotowboy]

It's certainly a nice package. But as I said - it doesn't matter when you just toss the box in your CD pile and import the music anyway.

[SolidSnake]

Never thought I'd say this but this is the first Metallica since I got into them in 1991 that I probably won't be getting. Love Death Magnetic to bits, but I think I've just grown out of their sound. And if the new one is again horribly mixed, I'll skip it entirely. Lars was way off the mark when he stated that DM sounded great. Because it didn't. But the tunes are amesome.

[Adami]

Anyone else find it weird that, until Hardwired gets released, Rob has only bee on one official Metallica album?

[TAC]

I find it weirder that James, Lars, & Kirk have only been on 9 of them.

[bosk1]

I find it weirder that Mustaine was on like 7 of them. 

[Kotowboy]

Anyone else find it weird that, until Hardwired gets released, Rob has only bee on one official Metallica album?

I imagine the money from touring and the lifestyle make up for it.

[Adami]

Anyone else find it weird that, until Hardwired gets released, Rob has only bee on one official Metallica album?

I imagine the money from touring and the lifestyle make up for it.

Oh I'm not concerned about the money. Just that he's been in the band for so long, and only on one album. Just felt strange.

[Kotowboy]

Yes. Joined the band in 2003 and up til today has been on ONE officially released Metallica album.

in 13 years.

But also - Beyond Magnetic, Through The Never, Lulu, Ronnie Rising, When A Blind Man Cries, Remember Tomorrow, You Really Got Me...

[Adami]

Yes. Joined the band in 2003 and up til today has been on ONE officially released Metallica album.

in 13 years.

But also - Beyond Magnetic, Through The Never, Lulu, Ronnie Rising, When A Blind Man Cries, Remember Tomorrow, You Really Got Me...

I mean most of those are just one off songs that other people wrote. Lulu is.....best forgotten, and Beyond Magnetic (as far as I know) were all part of the DM sessions and just released separately.

[Kotowboy]

Yes . But it's also not like he recorded Death Magnetic and nothing else in his 13 years.

[Adami]

Yes . But it's also not like he recorded Death Magnetic and nothing else in his 13 years.

Oh I know. I guess it was more a statement of how few albums Metallica make. Trujillo joins in 2003 and has been one one album (two if you count Lulu). Comparatively, MM joins DT in 2010 and has been on 3 releases.

Obviously at this point Metallica are mostly a live band, and Rob has been on a ton of their DVDs.

[Kotowboy]

They're basically Buckethead compared to TOOL

[kaos2900]

I find it weirder that James, Lars, & Kirk have only been on 9 of them.

Lol, very true.

[Peace and Love]

I agree it is a shame that Rob has only been on 1 official studio album in 13 years...

Of course the 80s were productive years for them because they were young and full of energy.

But it makes me appreciate the 90s more - from 96-99 they released Load, Reload, Garage Inc, and S&M in consecutive years. That was impressive.

[MirrorMask]

Can't we just call the double album thing a ripoff of Iron Maiden's own (and justified, time wise) double album? 

[fadetoblackdude7]

I'm starting to think that releasing a double album was just a bucket list thing for them and they just figured what the hell.

[Kotowboy]

Weird that Hetfield said they didn't want to do a double album. I guess they thought it would be a cool idea to have it on 2 discs.

[Dream Team]

Does having less length on a CD contribute to sound quality? I'm probably confusing that with cassettes or LPs.