The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[mikeyd23]

Oh wow, that's cool.

I might have to get the 3CD deluxe package.

[Kotowboy]

Yeah the live version of Hardwired from Minneapolis and the Rasputin Record Store gig have been professionally mixed. They're

" not just the soundboards ".

- From the Metallica Club Admin.

[MirrorMask]

I didn't even know or, well, remember that Metallica covered Remember Tomorrow! but I do remember the Purple cover, which is simply amazing and really showcases James' voice.

This is a much better choice for a third disc!

[Kotowboy]

Remember Tomorrow was the first thing they recorded with Rob Trujillo.

It was a while ago now.

Interesting they didn't include the Kinks cover.

[OpenYourEyes311]

Remember Tomorrow was the first thing they recorded with Rob Trujillo.

It was a while ago now.

Interesting they didn't include the Kinks cover.

Actually, Remember Tomorrow came out in 2008, but the first recording with Trujillo was The Ecstacy of Gold from 2007 on the We All Love Ennio Morricone tribute. Too bad they left that one out on top of the Kinks tune.

**EDIT** Actually, on second thought, I've tracked down most of these covers already. I was looking forward to the demos, and I'm a little disappointed by the change in third disc.

[Kotowboy]

I'm not. I don't care about demoes. It's basically the album again but worse quality.

I'd rather have a live gig and cover songs all one one disc.

[Kotowboy]

The album proper running order has been slightly altered as well.

[Adami]

I'm not. I don't care about demoes. It's basically the album again but worse quality.

Makes you wonder if they accidentally released the demos for Death Magnetic and just kind of went with it when the band couldn't tell the difference.


I always like Live Metallica, and I don't care about the demos unless they are markedly different.

[IDontNotDoThings]

Does anyone know why HTSD isn't on preorder for Google Play yet? I'm not generally one to preorder albums, but the fact that it isn't there kinda confuses me a little. 

[dparrott]

Yea I'd rather have the demos too.  Live Metallica....meh.

[Kotowboy]

It was a great gig. Lars was really good. Actually everyone was great except Kirk.

[Kotowboy]

Love all the people actually whinging about the contents of Disc 3 when Metallics were in no way required to include a third disc.

We're getting a bonus disc of a load of live songs, covers and a 13th song recorded for the album but left off ?

Fuck You Metallica. That's not exactly what *I* Wanted !!!

After 8 years and we don't even get any NEW cover songs. So Lazy.

First World Problems

[OpenYourEyes311]

so giving an opinion is now considered whining? noted.

[mikeyd23]

Yeah, I think the new format for the third CD is cool. Besides, it's a deluxe version, you don't like it? Don't buy the deluxe version, just buy the regular two CD set.

Really hoping they release a full making-of movie like Making Magnetic. They released the behind the scenes stuff for the single, I'm hoping there's more where that came from.

[Adami]

Love all the people actually whinging about the contents of Disc 3 when Metallics were in no way required to include a third disc.

We're getting a bonus disc of a load of live songs, covers and a 13th song recorded for the album but left off ?

Fuck You Metallica. That's not exactly what *I* Wanted !!!

While I am totally cool with what they're doing, this isn't as much a case of "It's not what I wanted" as "It's not what they originally promised". Since Metallica had already announced a different version of this and then went and changed it, it's reasonable some people just didn't like the change.

[Kotowboy]

so giving an opinion is now considered whining? noted.

Nope.

Whining about getting something extra which is completely optional.

Like if The Astonishing had an entire third disc of cover songs and going " I don't like any of those songs...Not Buying the album "

[kaos2900]

Will the third disc just end up increasing the price? This is generally why I don't like bonus discs. I don't listen to the bonus more than once if at all unless it's really good.

[BlobVanDam]

Love all the people actually whinging about the contents of Disc 3 when Metallics were in no way required to include a third disc.

We're getting a bonus disc of a load of live songs, covers and a 13th song recorded for the album but left off ?

Fuck You Metallica. That's not exactly what *I* Wanted !!!

While I am totally cool with what they're doing, this isn't as much a case of "It's not what I wanted" as "It's not what they originally promised". Since Metallica had already announced a different version of this and then went and changed it, it's reasonable some people just didn't like the change.

They set up an expectation, then changed it. Had they announced this one originally, nobody would be complaining.

[Kotowboy]

Will the third disc just end up increasing the price? This is generally why I don't like bonus discs. I don't listen to the bonus more than once if at all unless it's really good.

There is a 2 disc version and on Amazon - the 3 disc version is only £2 extra.

[BlobVanDam]

Personally not interested in any of the extras, I'm just hoping the album itself is solid.

[Kotowboy]

Personally not interested in any of the extras, I'm just hoping the album itself is solid.

100% But it's nice to get extras. They don't make the main album better or worse.

[BlobVanDam]

Personally not interested in any of the extras, I'm just hoping the album itself is solid.

100% But it's nice to get extras. They don't make the main album better or worse.

Of course! I have nothing against the extras, and they're great if you like to have something more, they're just not a priority for me personally.

[OpenYourEyes311]

so giving an opinion is now considered whining? noted.

Nope.

Whining about getting something extra which is completely optional.

Like if The Astonishing had an entire third disc of cover songs and going " I don't like any of those songs...Not Buying the album "

Not speaking for anyone else, but I never said I was not going to buy the album because I didn't like what the 3rd disc was. In fact, I'm still planning on buying the deluxe version. I expressed disappointment on the fact that they changed the third disc from demos to a live show and covers. I'm a demos guy, I loved Demo Magnetic. I love hearing the early lyrics and subtle differences in performance. I also love Metallica covers, and Metallica live. But the band has released a plethora of live material over the last 10 years or so, and all of these songs are available on those live releases. In fact, this show, if I'm not mistaken, is on livemetallica.com for download and is already available. The covers, as I've said, are also already available from various sources, and as previously discussed, there's one or two that are missing from the bunch. The demos for the new album are the only thing being discussed that is not available, and probably won't be at all at this point.

So, yeah, I'm disappointed. Not whining.

[Adami]

Personally not interested in any of the extras, I'm just hoping the album itself is solid.

100% But it's nice to get extras. They don't make the main album better or worse.

Of course! I have nothing against the extras, and they're great if you like to have something more, they're just not a priority for me personally.

Why do you hate the new album already?

[Kotowboy]

Of course! I have nothing against the extras, and they're great if you like to have something more, they're just not a priority for me personally.

These days I always go for any deluxe version of an album. But it seems bands aren't doing them as much or they're half arseing them.

Blood Mountain & Crack The Skye by Mastodon had a 90 minute making of and interviews DVD

The Hunter had a 5 minute making of...

Once More Round The Sun had nothing.

[Kotowboy]

Why do you hate the new album already?

COZ ITS NOT SLAYERRR AMIRTE>>>  YEHHH SLAYERRRR GOTTA HAVE REIGN IN BLOOD FOR THE 15TH TIME 

[LCArenas]

How "Hardwired" would sound like in the first 5 Metallica Albums?
Lovin' the KEA version. At a moment I was expecting 20-Year-Old James to start shouting

[Kotowboy]

Ride sounds good but Justice and Black sound like a Line6 POD

[IDontNotDoThings]

Prediction: Atlas Rise will be over 9 minutes in length.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Prediction: Atlas Rise will be over 9 minutes in length.

Idk why, but that's one of the titles I find most interesting.

[TheCountOfNYC]

Ride sounds good but Justice and Black sound like a Line6 POD

Nobody will ever be able to replicate the sound of The Black Album. It's perfect production wise.

[Kotowboy]

Yep it's the perfect guitar tone recorded with the most expensive microphones - and not just one on the cab. Probably several.

With the amp placed in the perfect place in the room.

And as Bob Rock said - a Lot of EQ. Which surprised me because one of the things I learned on my music production course was - get the right sounds going to tape.

EQ-ing after recording is pretty much - not *bad* - but not encouraged.

[BlobVanDam]

There's nothing wrong with EQ, it's necessary for a mix to sit right together. But an EQ shouldn't be to try and correct a bad recording, because you can't polish a turd. So it's right that the recording should be good to begin with, but having great sound on each individual track doesn't mean it will always sound great together.

Ride sounds good but Justice and Black sound like a Line6 POD

Nobody will ever be able to replicate the sound of The Black Album. It's perfect production wise.

And also this needs to be quoted again because it's the the truth.

[Kotowboy]

Yes for instance you don't need loads of low freq on a bass guitar because it will clash with the low end of the guitar.

I think a lot of people think that a bassy guitar sound and lots of bass guitar will sound heavy but it just sounds muddy.


When my bro was a lot younger and was playing in a band - he would turn all the treble off the guitar and amp because he thought it was heavier...

[Kotowboy]

Kirk is the most unreliable for how a new Metallica album sounds - saying Death Magnetic was heavily influenced by eastern scales. When there was like 2 songs which featured phrygian / harmonic

minor - y scales... Also he said St. Anger was like And Justice For All.


BUT - he says that Hardwired...To Self Destruct is less progressive than Death Magnetic and a lot more focused on grooves. Which is FINE by me.

James says there are still a couple of long songs - so hopefully they're not just long and repetitive for the sake of it and more like the song Master of Puppets - which is long but flows great.