The Metallica Thread v. Reloaded

[mikeyd23]

Well there's loads of HQ pics from this year. Greg is there but no Rick and nobody has said anything about Rick .

I know it's not saying much because Rick is never there but James confirmed it in the new So What!

Haha yeah from the DM documentary it seemed that Greg was there all the time and Rick was hardly ever there... So I just didn't assume based on pics that's all.

[Kotowboy]

So according to Kirk - Lars and James are recording their parts at the moment and he is waiting to go in and record all of his parts after they're done.

[kaos2900]

My expectations are about as low as they could be for this. What's the over/under that this comes out before or after Star Wars Episode 8?

[Train of Naught]

I think I read somewhere that Kirk said the new album is going to be along the lines of Death Magnetic, probably having to do with them having the same producer they had for DM.

[Kotowboy]

I think I read somewhere that Kirk said the new album is going to be along the lines of Death Magnetic, probably having to do with them having the same producer they had for DM.

Actually it's the engineer. He's now producing because they clearly got along with him more than Rick.


And RE : release - they've been tracking for a few months now. So I'll be *shocked* if this doesn't come out in late 2016.

[Progmetty]

All the long term fan club members are crying because it's not exclusive anymore.

Bunch of whiney spoiled brats.

I'm a long time fan club member but I'm extremely ecstatic with the change, basically cause nothing makes me happier than seeing anyone with exclusive anything get crushed and whine about it. Back when I was big on bootleg collecting in the Metallica circuits I used to purposely make big trades to obtain one rare bootleg or another and then just put it in circulation right after.
I haven't been on the metclub page in a while, but yeah it's still as dull as I remember it, I only kept the membership for the meet and greet possibilities. All the videos on the page are from the 00's and beyond, why would anyone wanna see this bull shit is beyond me.

[Kotowboy]

Yeah I have no problem sharing something I paid for. Especially if it's something that's hard to get a hold of.

I'm interested in all the exclusive videos like Load and Reload recording sessions. I'd never seen some of this stuff before.

[Kotowboy]

Brand new update on the MetClub.

Video shows James tracking guitar at HQ with Greg Fidelman there.

Also the band have posted that " they have a clear schedule through the first quart of 2016 to finish the album ".

Sounds promising. New album late 2016 most likely.

Tool ?

[Zook]

Still waiting on those remasters... Don't really care about a new album.

[BlobVanDam]

Still waiting on those remasters... Don't really care about a new album.

I'll take a properly remixed/remastered version of AJFA over anything Metallica could crap out these days. A good remaster of the other thrash era albums would also be great, but I'm ok with the sound quality of the original releases.

[Kotowboy]

I care more about a Metallica album than I do a TOOL album at this point.

Death Magnetic was a good album but over compressed. The iTunes remaster is so much more listenable. I can actually properly enjoy it now.

We already have a new Dream Theater CD in 2016 to look forward to. I'm also hoping for new Mastodon , Metallica and possibly Green Day.

[TAC]

Death Magnetic was a good album.

It really is. Unfortunately it has to live up to this thing where it was this "return to the old days" style album. If they had released a couple albums since, it would be one in a line of solid releases. But for now it represents the only new material spanning a decade. That's a lot of weight to put on one album's shoulders.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

If Lords of Summer is any indication of how will the new songs will be, I'll pass. They finally sound like old men trying to be cool.

I'll always love old Metallica, but their time has passed IMO.

[mrrct]

I always thought that Load and ReLoad, just like the two Use Your Illusions albums could each have been scaled back to a single album.  I realize that it is not the best comparison, because the Illusion albums were released simultaneously and L & RL were released a year apart.  I'm always skeptical, though, when albums are released that close apart because it screams "B-sides and leftovers not good enough to make the album" to me, regardless of what bands claim about using mobile studios or recording between legs of tours.  It is much the same as bands' second albums often have a "sophomore slump," mainly because they partly (or mostly) consist of old songs that someone didn't deem were good enough to be put on the first album.

As far as Metallica's upcoming album, I wonder if they'll use a session "ghost" drummer for Lars, much like KISS did Anton Fig when Peter Criss could no longer play in the late seventies.

[Train of Naught]

I kinda liked Lords of Summer, but it still just feels like a couple of riffs dumped together in one song, no real relisten value, so I don't hope it's an entire album full of Summerlords.

[Kotowboy]

As for Load & Reload. All 27 songs were written and recorded at the same time but Reload wasn't completed until a year later.

All the drums for both albums were finished but guitar and vocals were added later to Reload.

So there's no "leftover crap" on Reload. If anything - the worse material is on Load.  Poor Twisted Me for example.

[Train of Naught]

IMO, Load is less consistent but has by far the best song out of both albums (Outlaw Torn).

[mrrct]

My point was that if you took the handful of good songs from Load and the handful of good songs from ReLoad, you would have had one good album instead of two mediocre ones.  It still wouldn't have been as good as their best albums.  Perhaps more of the should have been b-sides and leftovers turned up on the first album instead of the second, but the net result is the same.

[TAC]

I think I can pull 6 good songs out of the two combined.

[Kotowboy]

If I had to make one album out of Load , Reload and the 3 new songs we got between Reload and Saint Anger :

1. Ain't My Bitch
2. 2x4
3. Devil's Dance
4. Hero Of The Day
5. Carpe Diem Baby
6. Bleeding Me
7. Wasting My Hate
8. Where The Wild Things Are
9. Mama Said
10. No Leaf Clover
11. Fixxxer
12. The Outlaw Torn

Something like that. 

The ballady songs from those albums are amongst the best of the bands' career.

[Onno]

I like Load a lot more than ReLoad. Poor Twisted Me is awesome. Load has a few filler songs for me, but ReLoad has way more songs that I don't really care for.

[TAC]

Mine would be an EP:

Ain't My Bitch
Fuel
Bleeding Me
Wasting My Hate
The Outlaw Torn

Seriously those are the only songs I really like. I can live with Cure and 2x4, though.

[Kotowboy]

I like Load a lot more than ReLoad. Poor Twisted Me is awesome. Load has a few filler songs for me, but ReLoad has way more songs that I don't really care for.

In my opinion - Loads' lows are worse than Reload's lows. Reload gets more shit because it's the 2nd of a double album.

But I don't think Reload is as shit as System Of A Down's Hypnotize.

That really does sound like all the leftovers. ( At least to me anyway ).

[Kotowboy]

Here's an idea : A personal 10 track best of featuring 1 song from each studio album ( not including Garage Inc or Lulu ) and one of the two new songs from S&M and I Disappear :

My Ten Would Be :

1. The Four Horsemen
2. Ride The Lightning
3. Disposable Heroes
4. Frayed Ends Of Sanity
5. Sad But True / Of Wolf & Man
6. The Outlaw Torn
7. Fixxxer / Carpe Diem Baby
8. My World
9. That Was Just Your Life
10. No Leaf Clover

[Zook]

Reload has all the boring songs. Fuel and to a lesser extent Unforgiven II are the only ones I like. The Memory Remains would be alright without the old woman singing. About half of Load is really good, and it's pretty much all the singles. Only drawback to making a custom album is the different production of each.

[Kotowboy]

I wouldn't say  Reload has *all* the boring songs. What about Ronnie, Poor Twisted Me, Cure ?

[mrrct]

I think I can pull 6 good songs out of the two combined.

I think I can pull about 10 songs out of it: (not ranked)

1. Until It Sleeps
2. King Nothing
3. Hero of the Day
4. Mama Said (for Southern Rock fans; also breaks up the monotomy)
5. Fuel
6. The Memory Remains (I can tolerate Marianne Faithful's voice for part of 1 song)
7. Devil's Dance
8.
9.
10.

All right, I was wrong.  If I grasp at straws I could put in "2x4" and "Ain't My Bitch," but I've now come to the conclusion that this bloated exercise in overindulgence has an EP's worth of good material.

[Onno]

I wouldn't say  Reload has *all* the boring songs. What about Ronnie, Poor Twisted Me, Cure ?

I like all of those. Comes down to taste, I guess.

[Zook]

I wouldn't say  Reload has *all* the boring songs. What about Ronnie, Poor Twisted Me, Cure ?

Those wouldn't be on my custom album. Like I said, half of Load is good. I'll make my track list later, although I'm pretty sure I did this already in this very thread.

[Train of Naught]

Here's an idea : A personal 10 track best of featuring 1 song from each studio album ( not including Garage Inc or Lulu ) and one of the two new songs from S&M and I Disappear :

My Ten Would Be :

1. The Four Horsemen
2. Ride The Lightning
3. Disposable Heroes
4. Frayed Ends Of Sanity
5. Sad But True / Of Wolf & Man
6. The Outlaw Torn
7. Fixxxer / Carpe Diem Baby
8. My World
9. That Was Just Your Life
10. No Leaf Clover

No Leaf Clover at 10? 

[mrrct]

1. Seek and Destroy
2. Fade to Black
3. Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
4. One
5. Enter Sandman
6. Until It Sleeps
7. Fuel
8. (Nothing stands out from St. Anger at the moment.  Need to revisit.  Is there an emoji of someone having his teeth pulled?)
9. The Day That Never Comes is the leader in the clubhouse.  Need to revisit this album as well.

I'd probably throw in So What, just for the hell of it.

[Kotowboy]

Here's an idea : A personal 10 track best of featuring 1 song from each studio album ( not including Garage Inc or Lulu ) and one of the two new songs from S&M and I Disappear :

My Ten Would Be :

1. The Four Horsemen
2. Ride The Lightning
3. Disposable Heroes
4. Frayed Ends Of Sanity
5. Sad But True / Of Wolf & Man
6. The Outlaw Torn
7. Fixxxer / Carpe Diem Baby
8. My World
9. That Was Just Your Life
10. No Leaf Clover

No Leaf Clover at 10? 

It's not a ranking. It's the songs i'd choose from each album with one bonus song from S&M or I Disappear.

[73109]

1. Seek and Destroy
2. Fade to Black
3. Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
4. One
5. Wherever I May Roam
6. Hero of the Day
7. The Unforgiven II
8. St. Anger
9. All Nightmare Long
10. No Leaf Clover


That was so not definite and for Ride, Master, Justice, and Load there are a good 3-4 songs I have at my top.

[Anguyen92]

1. Hit the Lights
2. Ride The Lightning
3. Damage Inc.
4. One
5. Enter Sandman
6. Wasting My Hate
7. The Memory Remains
8. Some Kind of Monster
9. That Was Just Your Life
10. No Leaf Clover

[Train of Naught]

Here's an idea : A personal 10 track best of featuring 1 song from each studio album ( not including Garage Inc or Lulu ) and one of the two new songs from S&M and I Disappear :

My Ten Would Be :

1. The Four Horsemen
2. Ride The Lightning
3. Disposable Heroes
4. Frayed Ends Of Sanity
5. Sad But True / Of Wolf & Man
6. The Outlaw Torn
7. Fixxxer / Carpe Diem Baby
8. My World
9. That Was Just Your Life
10. No Leaf Clover

No Leaf Clover at 10? 

It's not a ranking. It's the songs i'd choose from each album with one bonus song from S&M or I Disappear.

Ooooh gotcha!


1. The Four Horsemen
2. Fade to Black
3. Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
4. To Live is to Die
5. Wherever I May Roam
6. The Outlaw Torn
7. Unforgiven II
8. St. Anger (honestly none if that was an option)
9. All Nightmare Long
10. No Leaf Clover