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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2013, 07:29:18 AM »
Let's start this thread off right.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2013, 07:31:44 AM »
And here I thought you'd kick things off with Avatar.

Oh wait, you basically did! :D
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2013, 07:32:06 AM »
Let's start this thread off right.



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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2013, 07:32:30 AM »
Seriously though, I have never, but do really need to see Avatar one of these days.
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2013, 07:33:51 AM »
Seriously though, I have never, but do really need to see Avatar one of these days.

Dude. Come to CT and just walk in my house. It will more than likely be playing.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2013, 07:51:39 AM »
I've never seen Avatar, and never plan to.
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2013, 08:00:44 AM »
I've never seen Avatar, and never plan to.

If you're not seeing it on the big screen, it's not worth it.  It's shiny, but really nothing special if you didn't see it in theaters.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2013, 08:06:27 AM »
I've never seen Avatar, and never plan to.

Why? Just to spite me?

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2013, 08:15:33 AM »
I've never seen Avatar, and never plan to.

Why? Just to spite me?

No, it has nothing to do with you, my friend. :lol

I'm not as much into movies as everyone else, so it takes a lot to make me go out of my way to watch something, and nothing about Avatar looks interesting to me at all.

I'm sure the movie is just fine, but it doesn't appeal to me personally enough to want to set aside 3 hours for a movie I'm fairly sure I'm only going to consider ok.
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2013, 08:15:58 AM »
Seriously though, I have never, but do really need to see Avatar one of these days.

It's not nearly as bad as some people say.  The criticisms are usually fair, but overall it's a pretty entertaining movie and the story does hold together.  And even people who don't like the movie admit that the special effects are pretty impressive.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2013, 08:33:20 AM »
The special effects are beautiful. Everything about the visual aspect of this movie is beautiful. And it's a great, albeit recycled, story. Never understood the hate, Chino knows what he's talking about on this one
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2013, 08:34:53 AM »
I've only seen it in the theaters and it was visually magnificent there. I haven't seen it since, but I can imagine the experience being less on a regular screen.
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2013, 08:41:56 AM »
I've never seen Avatar, and never plan to.

Why? Just to spite me?

No, it has nothing to do with you, my friend. :lol

I'm not as much into movies as everyone else, so it takes a lot to make me go out of my way to watch something, and nothing about Avatar looks interesting to me at all.

I'm sure the movie is just fine, but it doesn't appeal to me personally enough to want to set aside 3 hours for a movie I'm fairly sure I'm only going to consider ok.

I think you'd enjoy it... and I'm not just saying that as a huge fan. You like Transformers and all that jazz, you'd probably like some of the stuff in this film as well.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2013, 08:55:14 AM »
I've never seen Avatar, and never plan to.

Why? Just to spite me?

No, it has nothing to do with you, my friend. :lol

I'm not as much into movies as everyone else, so it takes a lot to make me go out of my way to watch something, and nothing about Avatar looks interesting to me at all.

I'm sure the movie is just fine, but it doesn't appeal to me personally enough to want to set aside 3 hours for a movie I'm fairly sure I'm only going to consider ok.

I think you'd enjoy it... and I'm not just saying that as a huge fan. You like Transformers and all that jazz, you'd probably like some of the stuff in this film as well.

As I said, I'm sure the movie is just fine, so I'm not hating on it, I just don't feel any compulsion to watch it, if that makes sense. I'm really worn out on the Hollywood movie cliches, and budget / CG / popularity don't play at all into my motivation to see movies (which I guess is surprising given that I work with CG). There are a ton of other hugely popular movies I've never seen either.

I'm very unpredictably selective with what appeals to me, and it's not to do with whether a movie is good or bad either. As you said, I like Transformers. :lol
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2013, 08:57:00 AM »
You should check out Star Wars, it's pretty good.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2013, 09:04:41 AM »
You should check out Star Wars, it's pretty good.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2013, 09:11:51 AM »
Seriously though, I have never, but do really need to see Avatar one of these days.

Dude. Come to CT and just walk in my house. It will more than likely be playing.
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I'll be honest, I have seen Avatar 4 times which is a lot for me for any movie. A couple times was at home with guests that wanted to watch it at my home.

What is so compelling about this particular movie that makes you want to live in a fantasy world with it?
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2013, 09:38:34 AM »
Seriously though, I have never, but do really need to see Avatar one of these days.

Dude. Come to CT and just walk in my house. It will more than likely be playing.
Ok Chino,
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I'll be honest, I have seen Avatar 4 times which is a lot for me for any movie. A couple times was at home with guests that wanted to watch it at my home.

What is so compelling about this particular movie that makes you want to live in a fantasy world with it?
Its an entertaining film, but it ain't all that. Not trying to offend you, I just want to understand.

A valid question, imo.

It's not a bad film, but by no means is it a masterpiece either. It is pretty much "Dances With Smurfs". Having said that, I will admit that the film was visually stunning. However as someone who appreciates plot and well developed characters far more than I do special effects, I find Avatar to be a very lacking film overall.

If you're seeing something in this film that I never saw, Chino, I'd love to know what it is. I'm always open to at least attempting a re-evaluation of a film from another perspective, though I can't guarantee that it'll end up changing my opinion on the film or not.
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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2013, 09:39:33 AM »
Seriously though, I have never, but do really need to see Avatar one of these days.

Dude. Come to CT and just walk in my house. It will more than likely be playing.
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I'll be honest, I have seen Avatar 4 times which is a lot for me for any movie. A couple times was at home with guests that wanted to watch it at my home.

What is so compelling about this particular movie that makes you want to live in a fantasy world with it?
Its an entertaining film, but it ain't all that. Not trying to offend you, I just want to understand.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2013, 09:41:21 AM »
Seriously though, I have never, but do really need to see Avatar one of these days.

Dude. Come to CT and just walk in my house. It will more than likely be playing.
Ok Chino,
We all thank you for providing us with a long standing joke on the board but I can't wrap my brain around the obsession?
I'll be honest, I have seen Avatar 4 times which is a lot for me for any movie. A couple times was at home with guests that wanted to watch it at my home.

What is so compelling about this particular movie that makes you want to live in a fantasy world with it?
Its an entertaining film, but it ain't all that. Not trying to offend you, I just want to understand.

Idk. Certainly not the story. Just the beauty of the world I guess. I love Earth and everything that it consists of. The ecosystems, the landscapes, the millions of distinct and unique species, its history and its story.

Watching Avatar is like watching Human Planet, Planet Earth, Life, Great Migrations, and Mutant Planet all at the same time... except it's a clean slate. It's a world that feels so incredibly real that you can forget it's not at times. Every time I watch it I find new stuff in the environment and within it's nature. I can't get enough for some reason. When I watch Avatar I'm not even really listening to what the characters are saying, or even paying attention to them that much at all really. I look all over the world and way off into the distance. I look into the unbelievably accurate world that James Cameron created. That to me is why the movie is so awesome. Every bit of that world is perfection. No organism or plant is out of place. Everything is meticulously thought out. You can clearly see the evolutionary path between everything on Pandora. It all makes sense and none of it (other than the year it takes place) feels made up or fake. To me it's nice to be able to escape to a fictitious place that still has a heavy dose of familiarity to it.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2013, 09:46:09 AM »

If you're seeing something in this film that I never saw, Chino, I'd love to know what it is. I'm always open to at least attempting a re-evaluation of a film from another perspective, though I can't guarantee that it'll end up changing my opinion on the film or not.

I think a big part of it for me is not so much the movie itself, but the years that it took to make it. Granted I love the movie, but after watching all the behind the scenes stuff, I fell in love with it even more. My appreciation of what went into the movie is more than any other movie I've seen. Describing it wouldn't do it justice. You'd have to actually watch the behind the scenes. I'd be willing to mail you my copy to borrow if you'd be willing to actually watch it.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2013, 09:51:57 AM »
I am a big "behind the scenes" watcher of films, myself.  I know some feel that it takes away some of the magic of the movie when you see how it's done.  For me, it only increases my appreciation of the hard work that went into it.  That portion of the Avatar BluRay is very interesting and I marvel at the ingenuity.

That said -- the story is still meh...  :)
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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2013, 10:04:02 AM »

If you're seeing something in this film that I never saw, Chino, I'd love to know what it is. I'm always open to at least attempting a re-evaluation of a film from another perspective, though I can't guarantee that it'll end up changing my opinion on the film or not.

I think a big part of it for me is not so much the movie itself, but the years that it took to make it. Granted I love the movie, but after watching all the behind the scenes stuff, I fell in love with it even more. My appreciation of what went into the movie is more than any other movie I've seen. Describing it wouldn't do it justice. You'd have to actually watch the behind the scenes. I'd be willing to mail you my copy to borrow if you'd be willing to actually watch it.

Eh, I got my dad a copy of the film that should have that in it. Thanks for the offer though!

Having said that, I am personally an amateur filmmaker myself. I act, I write screenplays, I edit films, I've helped build sets and I'm currently learning how to direct as well as learning how to be a cinematographer too. Granted I do this with the local teen film group at our local library, but I do have a level of experience in making films.

I definitely appreciate what goes on behind the scenes in making a film and there is no way that I could watch Avatar and not at least respect what Cameron managed to accomplish for film-making in terms of special effects and the long amount of time he invested in making the film.

However I personally find that for what you've listed as Avatar's qualities, it's just not enough to be deemed a "great" film for me. There has to be substance to the story and its cast for something like that. It gives the film far greater longevity and a more emotional attachment for the audience.
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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2013, 11:52:11 AM »
I am a big "behind the scenes" watcher of films, myself.  I know some feel that it takes away some of the magic of the movie when you see how it's done.  For me, it only increases my appreciation of the hard work that went into it.  That portion of the Avatar BluRay is very interesting and I marvel at the ingenuity.

That said -- the story is still meh...  :)

Agreed on all of the above. Seeing the process side by side with the final product usually enhances my enjoyment of a film.
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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2013, 12:17:48 PM »
Well, I'm waiting for The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug to come out in December.
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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2013, 12:22:34 PM »
Well, I'm waiting for The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug to come out in December.

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Re: The Movie Thread v. Order of the Phoenix
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2013, 02:18:06 PM »
Seriously though, I have never, but do really need to see Avatar one of these days.

It's not nearly as bad as some people say.  The criticisms are usually fair, but overall it's a pretty entertaining movie and the story does hold together.  And even people who don't like the movie admit that the special effects are pretty impressive.

I don't admit to that. Mostly because I don't think they're impressive.

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« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2013, 02:24:54 PM »
Seriously though, I have never, but do really need to see Avatar one of these days.

It's not nearly as bad as some people say.  The criticisms are usually fair, but overall it's a pretty entertaining movie and the story does hold together.  And even people who don't like the movie admit that the special effects are pretty impressive.

I don't admit to that. Mostly because I don't think they're impressive.

That's complete bullshit. That's like saying you watched Titanic and didn't see the ship sink.

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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2013, 02:27:49 PM »
Nothing blew me away. I'm a sucker for practical effects, not CG bullshit.

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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2013, 03:46:32 PM »
Nothing blew me away. I'm a sucker for practical effects, not CG bullshit.

This. I was wowed the first time, but novelty wears off fast.
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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2013, 04:39:37 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2013, 04:42:36 PM »
As an experience at the theater, Avatar is probably the top of the line. As a movie by itself, it's still pretty solid. Very well made sci-fi.

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