Star Trek: The Next Threaderation

[Adami]

Here's an idea.

A ship and crew from the Undiscovered Country era..........but IN a post-Nemesis era. Oh yea. How do they cope with the loss of everyone they loved? How do they adjust to all the new technology? How will they deal with being living relics?

Oh yes, that's right. I'm talking...

Star Trek: Bozeman. Starring Kelsey Grammar.

You want it.

[BlobVanDam]

You had me at Kelsey Grammar.

[hefdaddy42]

They could certainly do a lot worse.

[BlobVanDam]

It would be worth it just to have the classic opening monologue spoken by Kelsey Grammar.

[King Postwhore]

David Hyde Pierce as his #1?

[BlobVanDam]

David Hyde Pierce as his #1?

Fuck it, let's just call it "Frasier In Space".

[Adami]

David Hyde Pierce as his #1?

Fuck it, let's just call it "Frasier In Space".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2hs0oZ6JuQ

[King Postwhore]

 

I forgot about that.

[BlobVanDam]

Yeah, me too. Wasn't that long ago I watched it.

[Kotowboy]

https://trekcore.com/blog/2016/04/simon-pegg-talks-about-star-trek-beyonds-reshoots/

Simon Pegg talks reshoots and Justin Lin.

[Kotowboy]

David Hyde Pierce as his #1?

Fuck it, let's just call it "Frasier In Space".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2hs0oZ6JuQ

Thought it was going to be that clip of Cause and Effect with Frasier dialogue dubbed in.

Not seen this. i'll watch it soon.

[Adami]

Apparently the new show starts filming in Canada this fall.

Still no set in stone cast, right?

[BlobVanDam]

I haven't heard anything beyond a couple of rumours. They're probably just building the sets right now.
It's a shame it's filming in Toronto and not Vancouver, the true home of scifi.

[Adami]

I haven't heard anything beyond a couple of rumours. They're probably just building the sets right now.
It's a shame it's filming in Toronto and not Vancouver, the true home of scifi.

Yea, I read Toronto and was about to write Toronto but then I thought "wait...that can't be right, it has to be Vancouver!"

[BlobVanDam]

There are some other scifi/fantasy shows that have been shot in Toronto (Dark Matter and Warehouse 13 off the top of my head), but Vancouver has a lot more. Plus being in Vancouver would probably increase the chances of seeing actors from other scifi shows pop up, which would be awesome.

[Kotowboy]

So the new trailer drops & promotion starts proper on May 20.

I don't want a "darker" trailer than last time. i'm fed up of DARK . Not everything has to be The Dark Knight.

I just want a trailer that's more indicative of the final film.

I'm looking forward to new trailers and TV spots and interviews and stuff.

Also the film is out on July 22  It's so close. I can't wait.

Even if it's as bad as Insurrection - i'll probably enjoy it *at the time* and less so later.

[BlobVanDam]

If they made a movie as "bad" as Insurrection, it would be be their best movie since..... Insurrection, so I'd be thrilled with that.
I have zero expectations based on ID and the last trailer. My only hope at this point is that the series doesn't suck wang. Happy 50th anniversary Star Trek!

[Kotowboy]

A 90 second trailer says nothing. Especially since Pegg and Lin both said that Paramount just put all the action stuff in and it doesn't represent the film at all.

Sure if you're a pessimist you could call it "damage control" but they've been saying pretty much the same thing in every interview.

Plus - no Kurtzman and Orci writing. It's in deep space. Not on Earth. The lack of promotion has really extinguished the excitement I had for it.

Looking forward to getting excited again. I REALLY hope that at the end they have a brand new Enterprise which is closer in design to the 1701 Refit.

I love the "bulbous" JJ Abrams design but if they revealed a new one at the end with squarer nacelles that would be nice.



EDIT : And I really hate Insurrection. It looks SO cheap. ILM was sorely missed on that movie.

[BlobVanDam]

I care more about story than fancy effects and explosions. The new movies looked a million bucks (more like 100+), and that didn't help them.
I wouldn't hold out on a new Enterprise either. They basically destroyed the thing in the last movie and didn't do it. Missed opportunity, but then again, that sums up the entire reboot.

[Kotowboy]

https://trekcore.com/blog/2016/05/john-cho-star-trek-beyond-feels-like-the-best-of-tos/


Encouraging.

[Kotowboy]

INB4


 "well he would say that. "
" he's not gonna slag his new film "
" for his money I'd say whatever they told me ".

[hefdaddy42]

Well, all of those things are true.

[Adami]

As cool as that is, it goes in face of the trailer, which is the only actual proof we have of what the movie is.

When we have a new trailer that supports.....any of that, I'll be open minded to that. At this point it's already really low on my interest list, but Star Trek (pre JJ) is very near and dear to me, so it's hard for this to be completely off my radar.

[Kotowboy]

You're right.

We all know that teaser trailers are always 100% representative of the final movie.

[Adami]

You're right.

We all know that teaser trailers are always 100% representative of the final movie.

Of course they're not. But it is all I have seen of the movie. When I have a trailer that shows something different, I'll believe something different.

I mean if a band's bassist said that their new album really explores jazz concepts, then release a 30 second sample of nothing but brutal death metal, then you're justified in being a little skeptical.

Actually, that was almost the case (kind of) with DT12 and I think Jordan or whomever saying that Mangini brought all these crazy concepts to the band, then the actual album reflected none of that at all.

[Kotowboy]

I don't trust a guy who uses Instagram like a 12 yr old girl.

[Adami]

I don't trust a guy who uses Instagram like a 12 yr old girl.

Hey, let's leave my instagram out of this okay?

Oh, you didn't mean me.

[Kotowboy]

  Rudess. I just wish he could upload a picture.

[BlobVanDam]

The amount of importance I place on Cho's opinion on the movie is exactly zero. If you can find me an interview where he's critical of the failures of the previous two movies, maybe it would have a bit more weight with me (and if such a thing does exist, I'd love to read it).

[El Barto]

You're right.

We all know that teaser trailers are always 100% representative of the final movie.

Of course they're not. But it is all I have seen of the movie. When I have a trailer that shows something different, I'll believe something different.

It was also a dead-ringer for the first two movies and what most of us disliked about them. In a vacuum I could go along with "it's not indicative and only there to drum up hype." With the first two as reference that doesn't work anymore.

[Kotowboy]

Different director and writers.

But If it's the same then Paramount is clearly calling the shots.

If that's the case then it makes no difference who is writing and directing.

[Adami]

1 director and 5 writers.

The director does not inspire confidence. Of the 5 writers, one inspires some confidence (Pegg). 3 of them are completely unknown and I got nothing. The 5th is Roberto Orci.

So out of these 6 people, one is a sliver of hope. I'm going to remain skeptical until I have reason not to. Does this mean I'll hate the movie? Only if I don't like it. I will go into it  and the previews with an open mind. If the all of the previews look bad, I'll wait till it's out on DVD, but I will give it a try.

[Kotowboy]

Simon Pegg and Justin Lin confirmed that When Pegg and Jung came on board - they completely ditched Orci's script and started over.

Ocri and the other two still get a credit since they started out on the project or whatever. i don't understand it either.

[Adami]

Simon Pegg and Justin Lin confirmed that When Pegg and Jung came on board - they completely ditched Orci's script and started over.

Ocri and the other two still get a credit since they started out on the project or whatever. i don't understand it either.

Ah, I was just going by what's on IMDB. Fair enough. Is Pegg then writing the script completely by himself? Cause that's a lot of writers names there for no real reason then.

[Kotowboy]

Simon Pegg & Doug Jung.