Star Trek: The Next Threaderation

[hefdaddy42]

Holy crap.

[Kotowboy]

Holy crap.

Yes.

[King Postwhore]

DAAAAAYYYMMMM!!

[Orbert]

She needs help.  Obviously the behavior is pretty bizarre, but also look at the mug shots.  The weird, contented smirk.  Something's definitely not right in her head.

[hefdaddy42]

The Star Trek threequel has been pushed back a couple of weeks, from July 8 to July 22.

Apparently, a new version of Tarzan had already booked all of the IMAX screens in the U.S. in early July.  Since they want that to be a significant part of the revenue stream for the film, they pushed back the release date to when the IMAX screens would be more readily available.

[Kotowboy]

Meh. What's two weeks ?

[BlobVanDam]

When we're talking over half a year out, it makes no difference to me. At this point I didn't even care to look what the release date was.

[Kotowboy]

" Three-quel "

Oh God.

[BlobVanDam]

Squeak-quel?

[Kotowboy]

Phrases Kotowboy will accept :

• Sequel.

• Prequel.

• Remake.

[BlobVanDam]

Then you're in luck, because Into Darkness was all three!

What about Pre-three-quel? Pre-boot? Re-inno-magining? Pre-bake? Encoremakquel?

[Kotowboy]

Then you're in luck, because Into Darkness was all three!

Kinda


PRE-boot ?

[El Barto]

Then you're in luck, because Into Darkness was all three!

What about Pre-three-quel? Pre-boot? Re-inno-magining? Pre-bake? Encoremakquel?

Steaming pile of Sasquatch shit?

[hefdaddy42]

Phrases Kotowboy will accept :

• Sequel.

• Prequel.

• Remake.

Sorry, your highness.

[Kotowboy]

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[hefdaddy42]

Hopefully the threequel won't suck.

[Kotowboy]

Well the last two didn't.

[BlobVanDam]

Hopefully the threequel won't suck.

Then it would establish a new reverse Star Trek curse for the alt universe, of the odds being the good ones, and the evens sucking.

[hefdaddy42]

Well the last two didn't.

Opinions vary.

[Kotowboy]

Well the last two didn't.

Opinions vary.

Sorry, your highness.

[hefdaddy42]

Well the last two didn't.

Opinions vary.

Sorry, your highness.

That's OK.

[King Postwhore]

Well the last two didn't.

Opinions vary.

Sorry, your highness.

That's OK.

I'm ok with them myself. 

The franchise needed some adrenaline and it got it.  Sure it's not the Star Trek we grew up with but that Star Trek was running on fumes.  Maybe this will help with getting a new series on TV, maybe not but they weren't coming out with another movie with the same formula that Roddenberry established.  It, in the modern movie world was not working.

[El Barto]

Hopefully the threequel won't suck.

Then it would establish a new reverse Star Trek curse for the alt universe, of the odds being the good ones, and the evens sucking.

I didn't think two sucked any more or less than one. They both had their moments both good and bad. They both make for 45 minutes or so of entertaining viewing, but fail as 90 minute movies.

[El Barto]

Well the last two didn't.

Opinions vary.

Sorry, your highness.

That's OK.

I'm ok with them myself. 

The franchise needed some adrenaline and it got it.  Sure it's not the Star Trek we grew up with but that Star Trek was running on fumes.  Maybe this will help with getting a new series on TV, maybe not but they weren't coming out with another movie with the same formula that Roddenberry established.  It, in the modern movie world was not working.

While I agree with you, as has been stated here, the problem is that sci-fi doesn't really work anymore in the big-budget arnea, and that's what ST is. The new franchise works for modern audiences is because it's action set in space.

[BlobVanDam]

It, in the modern movie world was not working.

Turning Trek into Star Wars isn't working either. It's not like the old movies had a terribly good hit rate either, but real Trek (and imo most real scifi) just isn't suited to the big screen, and the new movies are one extreme end of how it can fail hard.

Trek has always been at its best on TV. My greatest fear is that when we finally get a new Trek series, one of these hacks is in charge. Unlike the '90s when Trek and scifi were at a high point, there is currently a huge opening for a smart space-based scifi series.

My dream is still to have Simon Barry in charge of a new Trek series. Hell, just do the whole thing in Canada, because America has no clue how to do scifi anymore.

(edit: oh hi Barto)

[BlobVanDam]

I didn't think two sucked any more or less than one. They both had their moments both good and bad. They both make for 45 minutes or so of entertaining viewing, but fail as 90 minute movies.

That might be because they're both over two hours.

And I didn't get anywhere near 45 minutes of entertainment out of ID. Both very flawed movies, but imo ST11 is still quite a bit better.

[King Postwhore]

It, in the modern movie world was not working.

Turning Trek into Star Wars isn't working either. It's not like the old movies had a terribly good hit rate either, but real Trek (and imo most real scifi) just isn't suited to the big screen, and the new movies are one extreme end of how it can fail hard.

Trek has always been at its best on TV. My greatest fear is that when we finally get a new Trek series, one of these hacks is in charge. Unlike the '90s when Trek and scifi were at a high point, there is currently a huge opening for a smart space-based scifi series.

My dream is still to have Simon Barry in charge of a new Trek series. Hell, just do the whole thing in Canada, because America has no clue how to do scifi anymore.

(edit: oh hi Barto)

Well let's hope it leads to another TV show.  I miss watching a story arc from them.

[El Barto]

I didn't think two sucked any more or less than one. They both had their moments both good and bad. They both make for 45 minutes or so of entertaining viewing, but fail as 90 minute movies.

That might be because they're both over two hours.

And I didn't get anywhere near 45 minutes of entertainment out of ID. Both very flawed movies, but imo ST11 is still quite a bit better.

Both are very flawed in terms of the overall stories and the big picture. Both have plenty of entertaining scenes. In the case of the first one you can knock off most of the action sequences and get a enjoyable 50% out of it. It's been a while, but my recollection of ID is that the first 20 minutes of it is fine, you skip most of the early Harrison stuff, and turn it off once they blow the bejeezus out of whatever Weller's ship was called. Either way, they both have plenty of good content, it's just interspersed with the crap.

[Kotowboy]

What would fix Into Darkness FOR ME

• Explain how Khan looks different. You basically need one line : " My appearance was altered so as not to arouse suspicion. " blah de blah job done.

• WHY did Admiral Marcus want a war with the Klingons ? Just so he could use his fuck-off new ship ? Was Khan lying that Marcus wanted a war ?

• Change the dialogue in the warp core scene so it's not just the exact same lines VERBATIM. It's not even the same characters delivering the same lines for goodness sake. In The Wrath of Khan -

Bones calls the bridge and says " You Better get down here. Better Hurry " and also " You'll flood the whole compartment ". In Into Darkness - Scotty says the same lines. Which doesn't make any

sense other than just being a reference to TWOK. That scene would be so much better without the repeated lines.

• Have Khan be killed / disabled by the Uss Vengeance crash. Delete the entire trash barge scene. Spock would never be that violent.


^ Apart from those few things I love Into Darkness.

[El Barto]

It'd be much simpler to name the bad guy, I don't know,  John Harrison or something, and ditch the whole attempt at redoing TWoK altogether.

[hefdaddy42]

It'd be much simpler to name the bad guy, I don't know,  John Harrison or something, and ditch the whole attempt at redoing TWoK altogether.

[Kotowboy]

Yeah he could have just been John Harrison - a failed experiment at a superhuman race ( hell you could have gotten in with the whole superhero shit ) - who Marcus blackmails into designing a

supership. That eliminates the problem of a 300 year old Sikh being able to design a better Space ship than any Starfleet engineers.  Marcus could have held the rest of his "race" in suspended

animation with the condition that Harrison completes the ship or he'll pull the plug on them.

I don't know how I would have written the ending though. I think Kirk realising the ultimate sacrifice is what a true Captain sometimes is asked to do - is a good idea. Just tweak it a bit.

I'd have had Marcus the true villain and have Harrison just a patsy - who is only trying to save the rest of his "race" by doing what he feels is the only solution.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

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[Kotowboy]

 

[Kotowboy]

That Virtual Tour video is incredible !

I liked the 3 sea shells in the dunny !