Author Topic: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation (Read 255943 times)

rumborak · « **Reply #350 on:** September 05, 2013, 02:11:30 PM »

Melora?

I say ..... MELOOOTAAAA!!!

Kotowboy · « **Reply #351 on:** September 05, 2013, 02:34:36 PM »

rumborak · « **Reply #352 on:** September 06, 2013, 08:44:53 AM »

Just in case you don't know what that referred to (and one can not over-post that video anyway):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0jLi1peB4E&noredirect=1

Kotowboy · « **Reply #353 on:** September 06, 2013, 10:06:22 AM »

That scene is awesome. Good 2 parter as well.

Orbert · « **Reply #354 on:** September 06, 2013, 10:12:57 AM »

Agreed on both counts.

Also, that four-armed keyboard player is awesome. I swear, I wish I had four arms. The stuff I could do.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #355 on:** September 06, 2013, 12:29:28 PM »

Something I noticed.

In Star Trek shows - nobody ever leaves a room on the first attempt

Conversation ends -

Character A goes to leave - pauses then says one more thing.

Or

Character B continues conversation before character A can leave.

rumborak · « **Reply #356 on:** September 08, 2013, 06:09:21 PM »

Tasha Yar is the article of the day on Wikipedia, lol

Kotowboy · « **Reply #357 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:41:29 PM »

I

Odo. Such a good actor.

" Close Your Eyes. Take a deep breath. Clear your mind......if there's anything there. "

Kotowboy · « **Reply #358 on:** September 10, 2013, 02:05:13 PM »

The other thing that I realised is that Odo's Comm badge shape shifts with him. He had to practice really hard to make hair - so I doubt it's a working part of his body

El Barto · « **Reply #359 on:** September 10, 2013, 02:24:34 PM »

Never thought about the combadge issue, but it's actually quite a mess. My theory would be that it's a real combadge, which he holds internally when he doesn't want it seen.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #360 on:** September 10, 2013, 02:49:56 PM »

That might work.

rumborak · « **Reply #361 on:** September 10, 2013, 04:45:31 PM »

Pfft, combadge. Much more interesting to think about is how sex between Kira and him worked!

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #362 on:** September 10, 2013, 07:10:18 PM »

I'm pretty sure he just shapeshifted into Kirk.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #363 on:** September 10, 2013, 08:43:39 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 10, 2013, 02:05:13 PM

The other thing that I realised is that Odo's Comm badge shape shifts with him. He had to practice really hard to make hair - so I doubt it's a working part of his body

They even had a time he was hiding as a wall, then shapeshifting out and immediately used the commbadge! So it's definitely not just a visual reproduction of one. They messed up on that. At least they got the clothes correct when he became a shapeshifter again and turned into a bird. I was half expecting them to ignore it and have the clothes morph with him.

Quote from: rumborak on September 10, 2013, 04:45:31 PM

Pfft, combadge. Much more interesting to think about is how sex between Kira and him worked!

He can shapeshift into any size/shape he wants, and he doesn't have any human limitations, so could go forever. I assume the sex worked pretty well.

rumborak · « **Reply #364 on:** September 10, 2013, 09:33:12 PM »

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #365 on:** September 10, 2013, 10:27:12 PM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 10, 2013, 08:43:39 PM

He can shapeshift into any size/shape he wants, and he doesn't have any human limitations, so could go forever. I assume the sex worked pretty well.

Assuming he suddenly didn't have to erm 'revert to liquid form.'

Kotowboy · « **Reply #366 on:** September 11, 2013, 02:02:41 PM »

Whenever they have to laugh on DS9 - it sounds so awkward.

yorost · « **Reply #367 on:** September 11, 2013, 02:44:48 PM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on September 10, 2013, 08:43:39 PM

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 10, 2013, 02:05:13 PM
The other thing that I realised is that Odo's Comm badge shape shifts with him. He had to practice really hard to make hair - so I doubt it's a working part of his body

They even had a time he was hiding as a wall, then shapeshifting out and immediately used the commbadge! So it's definitely not just a visual reproduction of one. They messed up on that. At least they got the clothes correct when he became a shapeshifter again and turned into a bird. I was half expecting them to ignore it and have the clothes morph with him.

I think his shoes morphed, though.

Spoilers: What's also interesting, is that in that episode Bashir is a changeling. Doubt it came into play with the writers, but did the changelings initiate this return of Odo's ability, or why didn't changeling Bashir try to confiscate it?

rumborak · « **Reply #368 on:** September 11, 2013, 06:07:47 PM »

There were other issues with the combadge anyway. Take this convo:

*Picard pushes conbadge*
"Picard to LaForge, meet me in transporter room 3"
Immediate response heard through Picard's combadge: "Aye, captain."

Problem is, the com system had no way of knowing who to route the message to until Picard says "LaForge". Since you can't just cut in the audio after the "LaForge" (Geordi would just hear "Meet me in transporter room 3", which would likely get the response "who the fuck is this?"), which means the com system has to rewind and play the whole thing (which is what the show shows anyway). But, now you got a delay in the system, and the response can no longer be immediate.

/nerd

El Barto · « **Reply #369 on:** September 11, 2013, 06:45:13 PM »

Quote from: rumborak on September 11, 2013, 06:07:47 PM

There were other issues with the combadge anyway. Take this convo:

*Picard pushes conbadge*
"Picard to LaForge, meet me in transporter room 3"
Immediate response heard through Picard's combadge: "Aye, captain."

Hi. I'm Patrick Stewart, and I'm a handsome actor.

PowerSlave · « **Reply #370 on:** September 12, 2013, 02:46:03 AM »

https://badassdigest.com/2013/09/11/how-star-trek-into-darkness-is-a-crypto-truther-conspiracy-movie/

I thought you guys might get a kick out of reading this...

Kotowboy · « **Reply #371 on:** September 12, 2013, 05:15:32 PM »

https://vimeo.com/74184382

This is cool. For anyone into CGI.

I know Blob uses After Effects and probably Element 3D ?

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #372 on:** September 12, 2013, 08:58:30 PM »

I read about Element 3D when it came out, but none of their demos looked anywhere near that good!
But I do use their lens flare plugin. No surprise that it's JJ approved.

There's even a preset called "Jay Jay".

I even (over)used it on this little Trek related video I made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZn4sm--wOk

PowerSlave · « **Reply #373 on:** September 13, 2013, 10:29:36 PM »

https://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2013/09/j-j-abrams-will-not-direct-next-star-trek/

El Barto · « **Reply #374 on:** September 14, 2013, 12:06:17 AM »

Quote from: PowerSlave on September 13, 2013, 10:29:36 PM

https://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2013/09/j-j-abrams-will-not-direct-next-star-trek/

I can see a new guy wanting to do a real ST movie, rather than Transformers with familiarly named characters, and it bombing because the people who adore the reboot will hate it. End of franchise.

At the same time, those same two asshats are writing it, so it'll probably be more of the same. Trelaine would probably be my bet, except psychotic and hellbent on revenge on Kirk for some unknown but wholly irrelevant reason.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #375 on:** September 14, 2013, 12:12:15 AM »

JJ will still be producing it too, just not directing it. Either way, I agree that the writers are the biggest problem. They're responsible for such crap that it boggles my mind that they get work.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #376 on:** September 15, 2013, 11:01:32 AM »

Which is that 2 parter with Mark Twain ?

His vocal inflections got fucking annoying by the end.

Every sentence he said - he said *EXACTLY* the same way.

" So you're TIME Travellers ? From the FUTURE ? On some kind of STAR ship !!!!! "

" You must be STOPPED !!! And i'm the one that going to DO IT !!!! "

El Barto · « **Reply #377 on:** September 15, 2013, 11:53:21 AM »

TNG had a bad habit of making rotten second part episodes. This is probably the best example. The premise and the first half are great. The second part is dreadful.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #378 on:** September 15, 2013, 12:36:38 PM »

Well i liked the episodes but his manner of speaking got really tiresome by the end.

Orbert · « **Reply #379 on:** September 15, 2013, 02:07:39 PM »

The only thing I really liked about the second part is that you were (hopefully) wondering throughout the whole thing how it was going to set up the discovery of Data's head at the beginning of Part 1. It managed to do that in a way that I thought actually worked pretty well. Getting there, however, was really silly.

rumborak · « **Reply #380 on:** September 15, 2013, 02:34:37 PM »

I actually love that episode. And haaaate Twain's supposed manner of speaking. Especially because we actually know how he spoke. One of his college roommates who happened to be a hobby voice impersonator recorded an impression of Twain's speaking. And it's totally different from TNG's rendition.

EDIT: Almost right, here's the recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqHPN4lW6tI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

El Barto · « **Reply #381 on:** September 15, 2013, 02:46:33 PM »

Yeah, just watched that. The typical Twain impression is far, far less annoying.

jammindude · « **Reply #382 on:** September 16, 2013, 03:30:10 PM »

You know what? I'm watching TMP right now, and you know what? The more I see the bitching about what JJ did to Star Trek...the more I see *EXACTLY* what they are hoping for in this movie.

They may not realize it, and maybe most people have just forgotten...but TMP is a really fantastic sci-fi movie in the classic sense (all story, no action....think: "The Andromeda Strain")...and it's completely character and story driven. It may be the most "pure* Star Trek movie out of all 12 movies....and it is certainly the one that was the most Roddenberry driven of the entire film series...and therefore the closest to his vision. Add that to the fact that, without the backstory of Space Seed, WoK loses a lot...and I could see this really being a dark horse on my list.

I also like the spin that Shatner put in one of his books....that the joining of Decker and Vger was the birth of The Borg. Extremely interesting idea.

I would welcome more movies like this...but at the same time, I urge any of you who want all character and less action and "true to the heart of Star Trek" to look back at TMP with a fresh new perspective...it may be the best "discovery" of something you already know you've had in a long time.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #383 on:** September 16, 2013, 03:36:33 PM »

Meh. I've always liked it. As you say - it's funny that people bash nu-trek for being all flash and action but they also bash TMP for being all story and character.

TMP is easily better than Search For Spock, Final Frontier & Insurrection in my book.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #384 on:** September 16, 2013, 03:37:54 PM »

Unrelated - but yesterday for fun I watched Space Seed and then TWOK back to back with no gap and I enjoyed the experience.

If you wanted to watch the "Khan" trilogy - then Into Darkness comes first chronologically but it would make more sense if you watched it after TWOK probably

News: Track-by-track video for Fall Into the Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ezfzdMpRc0

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