Author Topic: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation (Read 256809 times)

He plays Colonel West in Star Trek VI. Always weird to see him in that role.

Watched the 1st season TNG "The Big Goodbye" earlier. Holy crap, at that point they were still going for the Crusher-Picard love angle. I wonder whether them dropping that arc caused them to drop Crusher altogether at the end of the season.

El Barto · « **Reply #1934 on:** April 09, 2015, 09:12:26 PM »

I think they just dumped her to bring in somebody with some personality. It seems after that they realized that Pullaski had no chemistry whatsoever with the rest of the characters (since none of them had any personality at all) and went back to Crusher. As for the love interest bit, I'm sure they just decided early on it'd be a terribly dumb thing to do, particularly since sexual tension is often better than romance.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1935 on:** April 09, 2015, 09:23:40 PM »

I thought McFadden left, rather than being fired? Either way, I'm glad they brought her back. Pulaski is like the dump on top of what was already the worst season of the show.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1936 on:** April 10, 2015, 04:47:59 AM »

Crew visits alien planet.

Troi : I sense an alien presence !

Well yeah. It's an alien planet. ANY presence would be an alien presence.

Troi is such a bad character.

Guinan was the real counsellor on board. And much better written / acted.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1937 on:** April 10, 2015, 06:03:15 AM »

I sense they're hiding something.
I sense pain.
I feel a presence of some kind.

If I was Picard, I couldn't help but think "this would be much more useful if you were a real Betazoid".

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1938 on:** April 10, 2015, 06:35:35 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on April 10, 2015, 06:03:15 AM

I sense they're hiding something.
I sense pain.
I feel a presence of some kind.

If I was Picard, I couldn't help but think "this would be much more useful if you were a real Betazoid".

I couldn't stand her the first season. Thankfully they flushed her character.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1939 on:** April 10, 2015, 07:05:24 AM »

They should have flushed her out an airlock

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1940 on:** April 10, 2015, 07:18:14 AM »

Her character was much better later on.

rumborak · « **Reply #1941 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:31:06 PM »

In the first few seasons she was hardly more than "Captain Obvious having orgasms on the bridge", yeah.

Overall, I think TNG struggled with their female characters, and I'm not certain why. They did so well with Major Kira and Dax in DS9. Janeway and Torres were okish. T'Pal and Hoshi were pretty colorless again.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1942 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:46:36 PM »

In Enterprise's case, I don't think it was a problem with female characters so much as a problem with all characters in general.

McFadden, Sirtis, and Crosby have all expressed frustration with how under-utilized their characters were, at least in the earlier seasons, so there was an issue somewhere.

El Barto · « **Reply #1943 on:** April 13, 2015, 10:10:38 PM »

Quote from: rumborak on April 13, 2015, 09:31:06 PM

In the first few seasons she was hardly more than "Captain Obvious having orgasms on the bridge", yeah.

Overall, I think TNG struggled with their female characters, and I'm not certain why. They did so well with Major Kira and Dax in DS9. Janeway and Torres were okish. T'Pal and Hoshi were pretty colorless again.

Did they really struggle more with the ladies then the gent? Seems to me that all of the characters were essentially the same person, so it was merely their job descriptions that would make them more or less interesting. Eventually all of the characters got flushed out, at least within the confines of Roddenberry's twisted utopia, but that was necessary for all of them.

And Dax was actually quite different in the first season than the subsequent ones. Everybody associated with DS9 and TF herself will tell you that there was a marked change. She was the quiet nerdy type for the first year, followed by her becoming the wild heart afterward. I suspect Blood Oath was the turning point. She was completely unsure about whether or not to participate in the plot. The Dax from season 3 would have done it on her own gleefully.

rumborak · « **Reply #1944 on:** April 19, 2015, 08:37:53 PM »

Random comment: Given the amount of aggression from the Ferengi in TNG, it never made much sense that they weren't at open war with them. The Ferengi in question always claimed to not be involved with the Ferengi Alliance, but that was always a bogus plot device.

Orbert · « **Reply #1945 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:00:03 PM »

ISS astronaut takes the most epic 'Star Trek' selfie ever

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1946 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:06:40 PM »

Or as people over the age of 16 call it..

...a "photo".

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1947 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:09:02 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on April 21, 2015, 03:06:40 PM

Or as people over the age of 16 call it..

...a "photo".

Nope, ever this old fart says "Selfie. Crap.

Orbert · « **Reply #1948 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:13:32 PM »

It is more specific than simply calling it a "photo", because it is a photograph taken with certain parameters in effect. Not all photos are selfies.

Besides, that's just plain fucking cool that she's an astronaut taking a selfie, from space, in a Star Trek uniform.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1949 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:46:44 PM »

Before the word selfie existed - we called them photos.

What's worse is when someone takes a photo of a group of people and they still call it a selfie.

Nope. You didn't take it yourself.

And it's not just you in the pic.

rumborak · « **Reply #1950 on:** April 21, 2015, 03:49:23 PM »

To me a selfie is a photo that you took of yourself. She seems to have done that, so it counts as a selfie.

Orbert · « **Reply #1951 on:** April 21, 2015, 04:03:16 PM »

Kotowboy isn't happy unless he's unhappy about something. Then he's happy.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1952 on:** April 22, 2015, 07:02:45 AM »

Quote from: Orbert on April 21, 2015, 04:03:16 PM

Kotowboy isn't happy unless he's unhappy about something. Then he's happy.

That's certainly the way it comes across sometimes.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1953 on:** May 04, 2015, 01:40:25 AM »

RIP Grace Lee Whitney, aka Yeoman Rand.

Orbert · « **Reply #1954 on:** May 04, 2015, 07:12:03 AM »

Bummer.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1955 on:** May 19, 2015, 07:09:09 AM »

https://io9.com/simon-pegg-worries-the-love-of-science-fiction-is-makin-1705420424

Hmmmm......

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1956 on:** May 19, 2015, 07:35:33 AM »

Dunce.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1957 on:** May 19, 2015, 08:49:41 AM »

Nice of him to bite the hand that has basically made him a hollywood actor...

Orbert · « **Reply #1958 on:** May 19, 2015, 10:03:27 AM »

A pretty bizarre thing for him to say, for sure, but if you can get past the questionable word choices, there's a pretty good point hiding behind what he's saying.

What I got out of it is that all the really popular movies seem to be the spectacle-laden blockbusters. Why aren't thought-provoking dramas and mysteries and other cerebral fare as popular as they once were? I think the fact that he's currently in the Star Trek franchise doesn't make it worse for him to say that; it gives him a perspective that few others have. In the article, it says that he was asked to rewrite the script he'd written for the next Star Trek movie because it was "too Star Trek-y". In other words, the ratio of intelligent content to mindless action was too high. When that happens to someone who clearly loves and cares about his craft, he has the right to complain about what's popular. He's like a musician trying to get a bit proggy but being told by the label to just keep it simple and catchy so it will be more popular (that is, sell more).

For the record, I don't agree with him 100%. There are still good, intelligent films being made, and some of them achieve a certain level of popularity. But overall, he does have a point. People live their lives and deal with shit every day, and they turn to movies for escapism. They don't want "real life" shit; they want to get away from that.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1959 on:** May 19, 2015, 11:28:04 AM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on May 19, 2015, 07:09:09 AM

https://io9.com/simon-pegg-worries-the-love-of-science-fiction-is-makin-1705420424

Hmmmm......

I find it ironic that Blob posted this.

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