Author Topic: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation (Read 256791 times)

rumborak · « **Reply #1855 on:** March 15, 2015, 08:01:41 PM »

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/12/its-time-for-star-trek-to-return-to-the-small-screen/383794/

I say, we need a "Star Trek: Wesley Crusher". You know, a series about his angsty Academy years. They could bring back Nick Locarno!

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1856 on:** March 15, 2015, 08:29:36 PM »

Or a series set on an "Enterprise" 200 years since Picard.

Enterprise NCC - 1701 - X

Maybe The Enterprise J as featured in that one episode oF " Enterprise " ?

rumborak · « **Reply #1857 on:** March 15, 2015, 08:37:33 PM »

I like the "200 yeares since Picard" idea. But, the twist is than Picard is still the captain! They uploaded his brain patterns into Data, who now lives as aSpock/Bones hybrid of two personalities.
See, we already have the first episode down. Something terrible happens to Picard, and he's on the verge of death. Data struggles with the realization that he can't feel any emotions regarding this, and at the end he merges Picard's brain with his, thus saving Picard, and at the same time understands emotions.
Side plot: Wesley falls into an Agony Booth. Nobody helps.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1858 on:** March 16, 2015, 01:47:35 AM »

Quote from: rumborak on March 15, 2015, 08:37:33 PM

I like the "200 yeares since Picard" idea. But, the twist is than Picard is still the captain! They uploaded his brain patterns into Data, who now lives as aSpock/Bones hybrid of two personalities.
See, we already have the first episode down. Something terrible happens to Picard, and he's on the verge of death. Data struggles with the realization that he can't feel any emotions regarding this, and at the end he merges Picard's brain with his, thus saving Picard, and at the same time understands emotions.
Side plot: Wesley falls into an Agony Booth. Nobody helps.

And for the whole series, Brent Spiner does his Patrick Stewart voice.

But seriously, there needs to be a new Trek series, with someone in charge who has nothing at all to do with the movies. TV is in desperate need of good scifi, and what better than Star Trek?

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1859 on:** March 16, 2015, 06:26:41 AM »

I agree.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1860 on:** March 16, 2015, 06:30:00 AM »

They'd have to explain how Data is now flabby and old looking

El Barto · « **Reply #1861 on:** March 16, 2015, 08:21:44 AM »

Quote from: rumborak on March 15, 2015, 08:37:33 PM

I like the "200 yeares since Picard" idea. But, the twist is than Picard is still the captain! They uploaded his brain patterns into Data, who now lives as aSpock/Bones hybrid of two personalities.
See, we already have the first episode down. Something terrible happens to Picard, and he's on the verge of death. Data struggles with the realization that he can't feel any emotions regarding this, and at the end he merges Picard's brain with his, thus saving Picard, and at the same time understands emotions.
Side plot: Wesley falls into an Agony Booth. Nobody helps.

Yeah, every ship has a holographic Picard on the bridge now. "Well, lieutenant, I'm stumped. Better activate the EPH."

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1862 on:** March 16, 2015, 08:24:02 AM »

Quote from: El Barto on March 16, 2015, 08:21:44 AM

Quote from: rumborak on March 15, 2015, 08:37:33 PM
I like the "200 yeares since Picard" idea. But, the twist is than Picard is still the captain! They uploaded his brain patterns into Data, who now lives as aSpock/Bones hybrid of two personalities.
See, we already have the first episode down. Something terrible happens to Picard, and he's on the verge of death. Data struggles with the realization that he can't feel any emotions regarding this, and at the end he merges Picard's brain with his, thus saving Picard, and at the same time understands emotions.
Side plot: Wesley falls into an Agony Booth. Nobody helps.
Yeah, every ship has a holographic Picard on the bridge now. "Well, lieutenant, I'm stumped. Better activate the EPH."

This show is basically writing itself! Why is nobody on this yet?

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1863 on:** March 16, 2015, 08:27:58 AM »

Star Trek is in need of more beards. Time to clone Ryker. Space bitches love beards.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1864 on:** March 16, 2015, 08:47:43 AM »

This is fantastic.

rumborak · « **Reply #1865 on:** March 16, 2015, 09:29:18 AM »

The side plot will become a running gag in the series, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vjrIj5fEX0

rumborak · « **Reply #1866 on:** March 21, 2015, 04:23:29 PM »

https://www.popsci.com/sxsw-2015-star-trek-tricorder-real-and-will-diagnose-you-soon

I wasn't aware there was a "Tricorder Prize"

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1867 on:** March 21, 2015, 05:37:28 PM »

It must just be the nerdy places I hang around, because I've been hearing about the tricorder prize constantly for years now.

Orbert · « **Reply #1868 on:** March 21, 2015, 06:17:39 PM »

I hadn't heard about the "prize" but I have seen an article or two about some cool new diagnostic devices that are basically like tricorders and are being called that, just because so many people already know the word. One of them specifically mentioned that if you think about it, "tricorder" doesn't make much sense as an actual word (since it was made up in the first place), but one thing they thought was important was that the device be able to perform at least three different vital diagnostics, otherwise you can't call it "tri" anything.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1869 on:** March 21, 2015, 06:24:43 PM »

Well it should be exactly three functions, otherwise you'd either call it by *that* number, or simply call it a multicorder. But yeah, it doesn't make sense. It just creates a buzz due to name recognition and association, just like how one day we'll have something called a holodeck.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1870 on:** March 21, 2015, 07:17:49 PM »

If they ever invent the transporter - there is absolutely 0% chance of me ever using one !

It might be like The Prestige - where it doesn't teleport you across space - it duplicates you and destroys the old one.

No thanks !

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1871 on:** March 21, 2015, 08:50:03 PM »

I'd feel exactly the same. They have actually mentioned that a couple of times in the show too.

Accelerando · « **Reply #1872 on:** March 24, 2015, 04:10:57 AM »

Just watched Star Trek: Nemesis...the only Star Trek movie I haven't seen, but since Leonard Nimoy's passing, I've been rewatching all the Star Trek flicks.

Ugh. I heard it was bad, but....that was really bad. TNG crew deserved a better farewell.

But in light of that movie, if somehow in the new movies they manage to get Picard in the alternate universe timeline with some sort of time traveling plot, we know that Tom Hardy could still play a young Picard

Who would play Data, Riker, and Worf in that alternate timeline?

rumborak · « **Reply #1873 on:** March 24, 2015, 12:46:23 PM »

Well, alternate timeline wouldn't necessarily have to be in the TNG "present", right? They could use the original actors, just place it slightly in TNG's future. The only one who couldn't pull it off is Data, but he's dead anyway after Nemesis.

rumborak · « **Reply #1874 on:** March 24, 2015, 05:12:59 PM »

Watching VOY "Fury" right now, the one where Kes returns. Man, Jennifer Lien's performance is highschool theater level. Awful.

Orbert · « **Reply #1875 on:** March 24, 2015, 05:31:57 PM »

Oh man, I remember that one. It was bad. When it first aired, one of the reviewers cited how Lt. Yar from TNG got a really crappy sendoff (drowned in a living pool of black muck) but they brought her back and gave her a great redemption. Voyager did the opposite by giving Kes a good sendoff, then ruining it by bringing her back and giving her a crappy epilogue.

rumborak · « **Reply #1876 on:** March 24, 2015, 09:14:37 PM »

Also have to say, while Denise Crosby looked totally fine in her returns (and yeah, all her returns were excellent), you could tell the years on Lien already. That is, the "Kes in the past" obviously

But what really struck me was the showdown scene with Janeway. She was supposed to deliver this passionate rationale for her actions, but she stood there wooden with arms flailing like a highschool student at his local theater production.

Orbert · « **Reply #1877 on:** March 24, 2015, 09:38:11 PM »

A big part of it was makeup, though. Remember that the Ocampa only lived a few years, and Kes had been gone for a while. She was like 20 or 30 earth years older already, something like that. I don't remember exactly, but I'm sure that was the idea.

rumborak · « **Reply #1878 on:** March 26, 2015, 04:41:53 PM »

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about the caked-on makeup they used for "end of her life Kes". I'm talking about when she travels back to the past to change history; in that time she's supposed to be normal Kes, but you can tell the actress has aged a lot.

I think to some degree it's the "stay in shape" clause actors have in their contract. The regulars took care of themselves, but Jennifer Lien probably had not acted in a while when she got written into the episode.

Orbert · « **Reply #1879 on:** March 26, 2015, 05:02:29 PM »

Yeah, Jennifer (unfortunately) never really took off as an actress, and didn't do much else. She did some voice work, but only on one show after she left Voyager, a bit part in a Corbin Bernsen movie that no one's ever heard of, then she retired. Too bad. I thought she was really cute.

El Barto · « **Reply #1880 on:** March 26, 2015, 05:05:58 PM »

Yeah, like I mentioned when somebody posted that pic of her looking all frumpy at a convention, she quit acting and went into full-time mom mode. That said, I didn't really notice her looking bad until you pointed it out. Probably because I just never paid much attention to her at all.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1881 on:** March 27, 2015, 04:51:39 AM »

Apparently Idris Elba is being courted for the villain for the next ST film. Early rumor is "Klingon."

I just hope they don't waste his talent on a generic bad guy. But, you know.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1882 on:** March 27, 2015, 05:03:35 AM »

I don't know who he is, but I'd rather not see any Klingons in this movie, especially as a main villian. I was hoping for some exploration with a completely different type of villian, and the less that is said about JJ's "Klingons", the more hope I have of actually being able to watch this movie.

I also hope they don't waste him as a generic bad guy, but it would be sticking to the pattern of the past 3 films.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1883 on:** March 27, 2015, 05:24:11 AM »

Simon Pegg said the script is all about exploration and fun and "trying to steer it back towards the TV show".

But we'll see.

( insert Blob & Barto rebuff here

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BlobVanDam · « **Reply #1884 on:** March 27, 2015, 05:30:12 AM »

Nah, there's not much left to say that hasn't been said until we get more hard information, but I hope they actually stick to that this time. We got the same comments last time around at this point in the process, and then they went off and did a poor parody of TWOK instead.
When you're dealing with Hollywood, the intelligence gets bashed out by the people in charge of the money until you're left with an empty action movie for the masses.

El Barto · « **Reply #1885 on:** March 27, 2015, 08:16:00 AM »

Yeah, as I've said, an exploration story won't sell popcorn nowadays. Especially now that they've set their standard with the first two.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1886 on:** March 27, 2015, 09:55:06 AM »

Yeah, it will be

1. Here we are exploring
2. Wait, something happened
3. Look it's another bad guy with plans for galactic domination
4. Lens flares/other visual effects & explosions
5. Kirk bangs an alien and the good guys win

Dream Team · « **Reply #1887 on:** March 27, 2015, 10:00:42 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 27, 2015, 09:55:06 AM

Yeah, it will be

1. Here we are exploring
2. Wait, something happened
3. Look it's another bad guy with plans for galactic domination
4. Lens flares/other visual effects & explosions
5. Kirk bangs an alien and the good guys win

Over/under of the time between #1 and #2 is what - 10 minutes?

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1888 on:** March 27, 2015, 10:01:27 AM »

Yeah, probably.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #1889 on:** March 27, 2015, 10:13:03 AM »

#2. I'd be a bit let down if nothing happened

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