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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1610 on: October 07, 2014, 04:05:08 PM »
It's a great episode and the kind of storyline that I really want in Star Trek.

Less like Data'a Day :P

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1611 on: October 07, 2014, 04:12:30 PM »
Ok - supposing they did a JJ Abrams style TNG movie reboot .

How would you cast the Bridge Crew ?

Picard could be played by Tom Hardy ironically or Michael Fassbender or make it really confusing and cast James Mcavoy :P

Riker could be played by Ryan Reynolds or Brandon Routh or Logan Marshall Green from Prometheus.

Worf could literally be anyone.

Data could be played by Sam Huntington.

Geordi Could be Chiwetel Ejiofor.

Troi could be Noomi Rapace - she's already got that weird accent :P



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« Reply #1612 on: October 07, 2014, 05:35:34 PM »
Ok - supposing they did a JJ Abrams style TNG movie reboot .

How would you cast the Bridge Crew ?

Picard could be played by Tom Hardy ironically or Michael Fassbender or make it really confusing and cast James Mcavoy :P

Riker could be played by Ryan Reynolds or Brandon Routh or Logan Marshall Green from Prometheus.

Worf could literally be anyone.

Data could be played by Sam Huntington.

Geordi Could be Chiwetel Ejiofor.

Troi could be Noomi Rapace - she's already got that weird accent :P

PLEASE GOD let Dr. Krusher be played by Christina Hendricks!!   :xbones
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1613 on: October 07, 2014, 05:38:13 PM »
I'm quite happy with my choices. :P


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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1614 on: October 07, 2014, 07:23:55 PM »
You didn't specify who was playing Beverly...so I'm making an addition.  :yarr
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1615 on: October 07, 2014, 09:01:45 PM »
Seems to me that if you're going to do TNG in the JJ Abrams millieu, then you're going to rewrite all of the characters so severely that it doesn't really matter who you cast. Fuck, just make Vin Diesel Picard since he's going to spend the whole movie in shootouts and fist fights anyway. Tom Cruise can be Riker. Samuel Jackson as Worf "and featuring The Rock as The Cyborg." Megan Fox can be Beverly Crusher, the captain's girlfriend.
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« Reply #1616 on: October 07, 2014, 09:55:56 PM »
I know you're being ridiculous, but that sounds unintentionally AWESOME!!!  (except for the Meghan Fox bit...can't we get someone cuter and less plastic?)

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1617 on: October 07, 2014, 09:57:33 PM »
I know you're being ridiculous, but that sounds unintentionally AWESOME!!!  (except for the Meghan Fox bit...can't we get someone cuter and less plastic?)

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1618 on: October 07, 2014, 10:57:29 PM »
Worf could literally be anyone.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1619 on: October 08, 2014, 10:04:42 PM »
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1620 on: October 09, 2014, 11:18:00 AM »
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“@david0akes:  The episode Cause And Effect with the repeating timeline. Did you film each scene X amount of times and then move on ?” YEP



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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1621 on: October 09, 2014, 11:22:42 AM »
I'm not sure why that would be a surprise. Everything is shot out of sequence so you don't keep moving back and forth and what not.

Still, it's cool that she's actually willing to help out nerds in distress.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1622 on: October 09, 2014, 11:34:49 AM »
Always negativity...


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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1623 on: October 09, 2014, 11:50:37 AM »
Seemed halfway positive to me. I commended the girl for being helpful and answering questions. She could have gotten all Shatner on you. Certainly nothing negative intended.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1624 on: October 11, 2014, 08:47:27 AM »
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1625 on: October 11, 2014, 09:02:02 AM »
Had to skip my first ENT episode yesterday, "Cogenitor". Setup is good, but at that point it must have been the fifth episode or so where hick Tripp can't relativize the concept of culture and feels he once again must intervene. Despite both T'Pol and Phlox pounding on him that it's not his business.
You know, at least in TNG they had Riker fall in love with the person, so there was at least a believable motivation. This was just " I speak with a hick accent and can't stop being provincial ".
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« Reply #1626 on: October 11, 2014, 09:25:33 AM »
Valid point. I mostly skip it because I find androgynous people creepy as hell.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1627 on: October 11, 2014, 09:28:24 AM »
Valid point. I mostly skip it because I find androgynous people creepy as hell.

Even the heavy handed hammy TNG one where Riker falls for one?  ::)
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1628 on: October 12, 2014, 01:34:20 PM »
I read recently that the writers wanted 7 of 9 to be in Nemesis rather than one of the TNG bridge crew :lol

Jeri Ryan quite rightly refused as it made no sense.

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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1629 on: October 12, 2014, 10:31:14 PM »
I'm on season 3 of ENT, and man, it's no surprise then whole thing got axed later. There's just so many stinkers, I'm right now watching "North Star", which is just a lame excuse to shoot a Western.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1630 on: October 12, 2014, 10:40:51 PM »
North Star was a dud, but that season is easily the best. You're not even half way through, so you haven't seen a lot of the best stuff yet.

Season 4 should tell you why it was canceled. That season barely deserved to be relegated to non-canon novels.
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« Reply #1631 on: October 14, 2014, 05:25:11 PM »
OK, here's a new topic: Who was the most killed character? The question came to me after watching "Similitude", where Tripp bites the dust.

Worf I think is a high contender. First of all he is in Cause and Effect which kills the whole crew several times over. Then he dies during the spinal injury operation, and he dies when falling off the railing in cargo bay, only to be revived by the dude who is evolving to a new species.
And, doesn't he also die during one of the Q episodes, where Wesley also gets killed?
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1632 on: October 14, 2014, 05:28:36 PM »
I wonder if Michael ever realised he was being killed off over and over.



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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1633 on: October 14, 2014, 06:51:19 PM »
On the subject of Wesley, the Enterprise crew really missed their chance with the Edo.

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« Reply #1634 on: October 15, 2014, 01:37:25 AM »
I'm on season 3 of ENT, and man, it's no surprise then whole thing got axed later. There's just so many stinkers, I'm right now watching "North Star", which is just a lame excuse to shoot a Western.

It wasn't great, but in comparison to the western episode in TNG where Worf and Alexander are in the holodeck (the name of the episode escapes me at the moment) it deserved an award. That TNG episode might have been the worst of the entire series, if not every ST series combined.
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Re: Star Trek: The Next Threaderation
« Reply #1635 on: October 15, 2014, 07:27:40 AM »
Is that the one with native american issues? Also where Wesley has visions and meets back up with the traveler?

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« Reply #1636 on: October 15, 2014, 07:33:53 AM »
North Star was a dud, but that season is easily the best. You're not even half way through, so you haven't seen a lot of the best stuff yet.

Watched "Strategem" yesterday, that was an excellent episode indeed.
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« Reply #1637 on: October 15, 2014, 11:12:06 AM »
Is that the one with native american issues? Also where Wesley has visions and meets back up with the traveler?

I had to go to IMDB to look it up. The episode is called "A Fistful of Datas" from season 6. Simply terrible episode.
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« Reply #1638 on: October 15, 2014, 12:38:10 PM »
Is that the one with native american issues? Also where Wesley has visions and meets back up with the traveler?

I had to go to IMDB to look it up. The episode is called "A Fistful of Datas" from season 6. Simply terrible episode.

Ahh I looked up the one I was thinking and its Journey's End

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« Reply #1639 on: October 18, 2014, 11:10:24 PM »
Just finished ENT Season 3. Great overall story arc, but man, what a shoehorned cliffhanger at the end, and fricking alien Nazis to boot. Way to go, shitting on your own season culmination.
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« Reply #1640 on: October 18, 2014, 11:12:38 PM »
The Nazi thing was really silly. That season arc deserved a conclusive ending (rather than dragging it out until S4), but maybe they thought the cliff hanger would improve their chances of getting renewed or something. I don't know. Star Trek seems to like using the Nazis.
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« Reply #1641 on: October 22, 2014, 10:10:06 PM »
OK, on the last season of ENT right now, and yeah, a very mixed season. Hoshi just overrode Enterprise's decontamination chamber door from the inside, because "math is just another language". Ugh.
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« Reply #1642 on: October 22, 2014, 10:32:46 PM »
OK, on the last season of ENT right now, and yeah, a very mixed season. Hoshi just overrode Enterprise's decontamination chamber door from the inside, because "math is just another language". Ugh.
Isn't that like the third or fourth time she's done improbable stuff with math because of her language skills? End of last season she cracked an alien encryption code.

And I probably wouldn't even call it a mixed season. It was mostly bad. They were trying to shoehorn in as many throwbacks and what not as possible, and it usually meant pretty bad episodes. The beginning of all of Brent Spiner's characters and Kahn's kids. Vulcan mind melds and katras (which nobody knew anything at all about 50 years later). Organians and their distaste for meddling in the affairs of others. Klingon heads and Section 31. Real life CGI Gorns and Tholians, along with a real life Constellation class ship with the uniforms. Like Blob calls it, fanwank.
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« Reply #1643 on: October 22, 2014, 10:43:35 PM »
I'm with El Barto on S4.
I liked the Mirror universe episodes because the evil counterparts had a little more personality (which isn't hard to do), but even that was the same fanwank that tries to skirt through and around canon. And "These Are the Voyages" deserves its reputation as one of the worst things Trek ever did.
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« Reply #1644 on: October 22, 2014, 11:07:57 PM »
I know my folder doesn't even include the proper version of TatV. It came with a fan edit, which I believe ditches all of the Troi/Riker nonsense. Not sure though as I haven't even watched that. Both times I rewatched ENT I couldn't get through season 4, so I don't guess I've seen the finale since it originally aired (and I don't think I bothered with that in realtime). I've got no problem ripping through the first 3 seasons; it's honestly better than most people give it credit for (particularly the second time through). Season 4 is just painful.

The mirror universe episode had a few things working for it. The opening title sequence was great, as was the hot, slutty Hoshi. Like most of the mirror universe episodes, though, the story largely sucked.
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