Star Trek: The Next Threaderation

[El Barto]

EDIT: What's funny, I personally never considered young Anakin to be nearly as bad as fucking Hayden Christensen. Holy shit, that guy is absolutely incapable of acting.

Definitely. I never really hated JL because of his acting. I hated the character, his characterization and what it did to Star Wars. If E1TPM had been worth a fuck he wouldn't have bothered me much. HC was just a thoroughly detestable person in all regards.

[Kotowboy]

Wesley Crusher > Jake Lloyd Anakin > Hayden Christensen Anakin.

[BlobVanDam]

If you watch any videos, Jake Lloyd is so bitter about his role in Star Wars. I saw a video at a recent convention, and someone was asking him questions about his role in Star Wars, and he acted like he was really offended by being asked anything, as if he didn't realize he was only there because 15 years ago he was in Star Wars, and not because we care about all of the great things happening in his life right now.

[rumborak]

Oh wow, I just watched whatever the first YT video that comes up under his name. Wow, he seems like a bitter loser, sorry. The kinda guy who can only be snarky and because of it has no friends.

[BlobVanDam]

I just checked Youtube, and that first video is the exact same one I saw. I don't know how you could even be a guest at a con with that attitude. I bet the promoters regretted that.

[El Barto]

Apparently he was just tormented mercilessly because of that. It also destroyed any career he might have had afterward since he was typecast. Add to that I don't think he even wanted to be an actor anyway. Still, it just goes to show what a down to Earth guy WW must be.

[Kotowboy]

Compared to that video - Wil Wheaton is a saint.

[rumborak]

The thing is, while I can see that highschool would have been rough, once you're in college you get a completely fresh start. If you're still having problems with your past 15 years later, that's your problem, not somebody else's.

[King Postwhore]

Still, people are a-holes.  They needed to go after Lucas, not some little kid who had crappy lines fed to him.  But like you said, the kid needs to get over it.

[Kotowboy]

So, Episode 7 has begun filming...



.. oh wait, wrong thread.


So, Star Trek 3 has begun scripting.

[hefdaddy42]

I watched Into Darkness today. I think that if I didn't know anything about Star Trek other than the 2009 film, I would have really enjoyed it.

[Kotowboy]

I watched Into Darkness today. I think that if I didn't know anything about Star Trek other than the 2009 film, I would have really enjoyed it.

Can we get a new thread yet ?

Request " The United Threaderation Of Planets "

[El Barto]

I watched Into Darkness today. I think that if I didn't know anything about Star Trek other than the 2009 film, I would have really enjoyed it.

I had pretty much the exact opposite reaction. It was mostly the passing familiarity with ST that made me not hate it. I just don't much care for that style of filmmaking, so it's really only the characters that I can appreciate. Now, if I didn't know anything about TWoK I would have enjoyed it much more, as the ripoff aspect really dampened me on it.

[Kotowboy]

With into darkness I found I didn't get the same euphoria as 2009 BUT I can watch it repeatedly unlike 2009 which I can only watch every once in a while.

[hefdaddy42]

I watched Into Darkness today. I think that if I didn't know anything about Star Trek other than the 2009 film, I would have really enjoyed it.

I had pretty much the exact opposite reaction.

I don't think so.

Now, if I didn't know anything about TWoK I would have enjoyed it much more, as the ripoff aspect really dampened me on it.

[rumborak]

A totally random thought occurred to me today: So, TNG plays in the 24th century. That's about 400 years in the future. Now, if you look at the English language from 400 years ago, that's early 17th century, the time of Shakespeare. The pronunciation has shifted so much (check out this video: https://youtu.be/gPlpphT7n9s ), people in the 24th century would likely to be incomprehensible to us.

[BlobVanDam]

A totally random thought occurred to me today: So, TNG plays in the 24th century. That's about 400 years in the future. Now, if you look at the English language from 400 years ago, that's early 17th century, the time of Shakespeare. The pronunciation has shifted so much (check out this video: https://youtu.be/gPlpphT7n9s ), people in the 24th century would likely to be incomprehensible to us.

Which wouldn't make for very fun viewing, would it?
Much like all aliens speaking with US accents, I just accept they're using the universal translator for the viewer's benefit.

[rumborak]

I still think that in that Voyager episode with Jason Alexander, Janeway should have made a comment at the end, something like: "Man, sometimes the choice of pronunciation of the universal translator is peculiar, to say the least. It gave Kurros the voice of a 20th century New Yorker."

[JayOctavarium]

I still think that in that Voyager episode with Jason Alexander, Janeway should have made a comment at the end, something like: "Man, sometimes the choice of pronunciation of the universal translator is peculiar, to say the least. It gave Kurros the voice of a 20th century New Yorker."

[Kotowboy]

I was watching " The Royale " and I realised that between Data, Worf and Troi - you've got an almost perfect away team.

Troi can sense if a character is keeping secrets or being deceitful,

Worf has the brute strength and combat abilities should they encounter hostiles.

Data has incredible computational and processing abilities plus can access almost any electronic device and over ride it AND his incredible strength.

All you'd need then is a mediator like Picard who's chief skill is to resolve disputes.

All that's missing from that perfect combo is a Q like being - who, when all else fails FUCK IT

[El Barto]

I think Data could handle the combat aspect better than Worf and he wouldn't be wrong every time he thinks, acts or speaks. Worf was only ever useful because the stories were written with that in mind. The only time he was ever an asset was when his knowledge of Klingon culture and customs was useful. Otherwise he was probably a liability more often than not.

Was there ever an instance that didn't involve other Klingons where they though "man, thank God we had Worf along with us!"

[ddtonfire]

Worf gets denied again and again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edflm7Hh3hs

Worf gets owned again and again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXrlhN9rPoc

Poor Mr. Woof.

[Kotowboy]

Worf is an hilarious character. Just the thought of a warrior like him being reduced to taking orders subserviently aboard a peaceful cruise liner



It's as if Ghengis Khan was head of security aboard the QE2.

[Kotowboy]

Worf gets denied again and again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edflm7Hh3hs

" Sir, this may be out only chance...."

".............................................no. "

 

[Orbert]

Worf is an hilarious character. Just the thought of a warrior like him being reduced to taking orders subserviently aboard a peaceful cruise liner

It's so sad.  He was supposed to represent how the Federation and the Klingon Empire were now allies, blah blah blah, but even the other Klingons gave him shit about it.  Like, every time.  And he had to bear it all while trying to keep his dignity and a straight face, and I honestly felt sorry for him sometimes.

That gold sash looked kinda cool, actually, but then we soon find out that no other Klingon ever wears one, and the other Klingons gave him shit about that, too.

[rumborak]

He probably figured he could wear his Homecoming sash, and everybody would think it's some glorious battle trophy.

[Orbert]

Something like that.  In the pilot, they make a point of how it not part of the standard Star Fleet uniform, but Worf can wear it because it's such a special deal, how he's the first Klingon to be a bridge officer, etc.  I assumed it was some kind of special Klingon thing that they'd allowed him to wear (imperfect analogy: when a Cub Scout achieves the Arrow of Light, the highest award, he gets to wear it on his Boy Scout uniform).  But the first time other Klingons see it, they laugh at him and say "what the *%# is that?"

[El Barto]

Worf is an hilarious character. Just the thought of a warrior like him being reduced to taking orders subserviently aboard a peaceful cruise liner

It's so sad.  He was supposed to represent how the Federation and the Klingon Empire were now allies, blah blah blah, but even the other Klingons gave him shit about it.  Like, every time.  And he had to bear it all while trying to keep his dignity and a straight face, and I honestly felt sorry for him sometimes.

That gold sash looked kinda cool, actually, but then we soon find out that no other Klingon ever wears one, and the other Klingons gave him shit about that, too.

Interestingly, I stumbled across the Memory-Alpha page on Klingon baldrics the other day. Actually most noteworthy Klingons wore them (as well as Andorians, apparently). They were normally just hard to notice. They tended to be more narrow and often blended in with the rest of their uniform.

Kang and K'mpec wore pretty prominent ones:



Most of the time they were more subtle, like Martok's:


And when other Klingons laugh at it, it's usually because they don't view him as a real Klingon or they're ragging on him for his non-existent house.

Here's plenty of other Klingons with baldrics:

https://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Baldric

[rumborak]

What I think when I hear "Baldric".

[El Barto]

I always think of this knucklehead.

[Orbert]

I sit corrected.  Twice in one day.  Must be a Monday. 


Also, Kang was cool.  I always liked him.

[Kotowboy]

I always think of this knucklehead.

Is that Henry Gibson ?

[El Barto]

Is that Henry Gibson ?

According to IMDB it is, although I'd honestly never heard of him outside of being the head Illinois Nazi. Turns out he played a Ferengi once.

[Kotowboy]

He's usually in Joe Dante films. He's in Gremlins and Innerspace.

[Nefarius]

Don't forget the epic Judge Clark Brown in Boston Legal!

Greetings...
Nef