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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5040 on: August 07, 2013, 04:27:11 PM »
Quote from: Dark Castle on August 07, 2013, 12:18:28 PM
I'd bet a nickel that Along For the Ride is the ballad, due to the name giving the impression as one, and it's supposed length.

I believe this is true. I expected it to be a bit of a rocker though from the title.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5041 on: August 07, 2013, 04:39:47 PM »
Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5042 on: August 07, 2013, 04:49:06 PM »
Quote from: The Letter M on August 07, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
Quote from: The Boomr on August 07, 2013, 04:21:46 PM
Quote from: Mosh on August 07, 2013, 04:20:52 PM
I saw a few reviews saying Enigma Machine was the instrumental. Pretty sure they were posted here, even.

What? Where? Tell me.

If those reviews don't exist, though, I called it here, folks. Enigma Machine = instrumental.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=37931.0

Actually, about 109 people called it, starting July 9th. So yeah... :rollin

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5043 on: August 07, 2013, 04:49:40 PM »
^^^^^^^^ That isn't even close to being a funny or cool portmanteau of inception. :/
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5044 on: August 07, 2013, 04:51:41 PM »
Quote from: dparrott on August 07, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???

Stock images of studios and people recording in those studios.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5045 on: August 07, 2013, 05:05:37 PM »
Quote from: Mosh on August 07, 2013, 03:02:25 PM
Just because he played it on acoustic in the video doesn't mean the song is like that. It looked like he was outlining the chords and making sure the lyrics worked with the vocal melody.
He was. There's video of him doing a similar thing with Forsaken on the SC documentary. But... we know the lyrics were for Smoothen, and we know there are acoustic guitars in Smoothen cos it says so on the chart, so it seems plausible that the bit he was playing could've ended up in the song.

More to the point, though, I wasn't saying it was a ballad - just that Lucien's conclusion of "The Looking Glass can't be a ballad because it apparently sounds like Rush" is flawed, given that our (admittedly tiny) window into the song suggests a softer song way more than it does a harder one. If we are going to scrutinise meaningless bits of information, we might as well scrutinise them properly.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5046 on: August 07, 2013, 06:11:13 PM »
Quote from: dparrott on August 07, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???

Do we know if the special edition digipak includes the 28 pages from the jewel case or if it's just a regular sized booklet?
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5047 on: August 07, 2013, 07:51:15 PM »
Quote from: robwebster on August 07, 2013, 05:05:37 PM
More to the point, though, I wasn't saying it was a ballad - just that Lucien's conclusion of "The Looking Glass can't be a ballad because it apparently sounds like Rush" is flawed, given that our (admittedly tiny) window into the song suggests a softer song way more than it does a harder one. If we are going to scrutinise meaningless bits of information, we might as well scrutinise them properly.
Fair enough. I think a Rush influence on a softer more acoustic song would be less obvious. I'm expecting something like the first part of TBOT, which had Rush written all over it.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5048 on: August 08, 2013, 12:38:40 AM »
Quote from: dparrott on August 07, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???

SC has 22 pages and it is really thick booklet. This is gonna be HUGE.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5049 on: August 08, 2013, 03:41:13 AM »
Quote from: Dark Castle on August 07, 2013, 12:18:28 PM
I'd bet a nickel that Along For the Ride is the ballad, due to the name giving the impression as one, and it's supposed length.

The only impression I get from that name is The Count Of Tuscany II ;)


Quote from: Dillster22 on August 07, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
Do we know if the special edition digipak includes the 28 pages from the jewel case or if it's just a regular sized booklet?

Pretty sure it's the same booklet.


Quote from: Kotowboy on August 07, 2013, 04:51:41 PM
Quote from: dparrott on August 07, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???

Stock images of studios and people recording in those studios.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5050 on: August 08, 2013, 04:12:47 AM »
More like stock images of studios and stock images of people poorly photoshopped into them. :neverusethis:
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5051 on: August 08, 2013, 04:22:42 AM »
Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5052 on: August 08, 2013, 04:36:55 AM »
Quote from: Viking of the Sagas on August 08, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

:tup
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5053 on: August 08, 2013, 05:02:46 AM »
Quote from: Viking of the Sagas on August 08, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5054 on: August 08, 2013, 05:18:43 AM »
Quote from: liran95 on August 08, 2013, 05:02:46 AM
Quote from: Viking of the Sagas on August 08, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".

The Enema Inside
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5055 on: August 08, 2013, 05:20:38 AM »
I didn't like it very much on the first listen but I wouldn't have called it a shit song either. ;D

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5056 on: August 08, 2013, 05:23:21 AM »
so you mean The Enemy Inside was Along For The Ride? :neverusethis:
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5057 on: August 08, 2013, 06:07:35 AM »
Noxon, when are you and everyone else allowed to post your reviews? Did RR give you a hard date?
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5058 on: August 08, 2013, 06:20:46 AM »
SOON...
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5059 on: August 08, 2013, 06:23:35 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5060 on: August 08, 2013, 06:28:01 AM »
Quote from: liran95 on August 08, 2013, 05:02:46 AM
Quote from: Viking of the Sagas on August 08, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".


I wish DT would dump Hugh...
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5061 on: August 08, 2013, 07:02:32 AM »
 :lol
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5062 on: August 08, 2013, 08:23:38 AM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on August 08, 2013, 06:28:01 AM
Quote from: liran95 on August 08, 2013, 05:02:46 AM
Quote from: Viking of the Sagas on August 08, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".


I wish DT would dump Hugh...

Thanks to you I can cover up my typo :)
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5063 on: August 08, 2013, 09:17:40 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on August 08, 2013, 06:28:01 AM
Quote from: liran95 on August 08, 2013, 05:02:46 AM
Quote from: Viking of the Sagas on August 08, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".


I wish DT would hump Hugh...

They use him so much, I thought they were? 
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5064 on: August 08, 2013, 09:22:57 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5065 on: August 08, 2013, 09:43:00 AM »
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Noxon, when are you and everyone else allowed to post your reviews? Did RR give you a hard date?

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SOON...

I would bet full album reviews probably won't go up until the end of the month at the earliest. More likely the first week of September. Just a guess though.
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Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on August 26, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
In what friggin' universe is a 68 minute long album "short"?

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5066 on: August 08, 2013, 10:25:30 AM »
I've completed the review (it's 6235 words long), so it'll go live when one of these events happen:
1) album leaks onto the internet
2) other full album reviews start appearing
3) sept 9th.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5067 on: August 08, 2013, 10:27:34 AM »
Quote from: noxon on August 08, 2013, 10:25:30 AM
1) album leaks onto the internet

This will never happen.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5068 on: August 08, 2013, 10:43:08 AM »
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5069 on: August 08, 2013, 10:45:30 AM »
Quote from: noxon on August 08, 2013, 10:25:30 AM
I've completed the review (it's 6235 words long), so it'll go live when one of these events happen:
1) album leaks onto the internet
2) other full album reviews start appearing
3) sept 9th.

Thanks for the update! Looking forward to reading it whenever it does hit!
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5070 on: August 08, 2013, 01:01:06 PM »
Thanks Noxon. Looks like hard date of 9/9.

It won't change anything about how my listening experience will unfold but I do enjoy reading reviews where people have taken
the time to dig into things.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5071 on: August 08, 2013, 02:10:59 PM »
Quote from: noxon on August 08, 2013, 10:25:30 AM
I've completed the review (it's 6235 words long), so it'll go live when one of these events happen:
1) album leaks onto the internet
2) other full album reviews start appearing
3) sept 9th.
Cool man. Looking forward to reading it!
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5072 on: August 08, 2013, 03:04:38 PM »
Complicated situation. If it's before septmeber 9th and no other full reviews are released, then by posting your review here you would technically be hinting at the existance of album leaks and break the rules.
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« Reply #5073 on: August 08, 2013, 03:10:04 PM »
He would be posting it at dtnorway anyway, you would have to find out yourself I would imagine.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5074 on: August 08, 2013, 04:19:51 PM »
A bit disappointed with the preorder packs  :-\ I would never give 99 bucks just for the awesome extra content, that's way too much.. they should have put the documentary at least on the cd + dvd version...
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