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Everyone said the same thing about ADTOE, and that ended up being miles better than anything post SFAM.

Not true, SDOIT is some of the best artwork for a DT album, SC was good too. With BCSL things just started to go downhill, and with this cover it looks like it's going to keep going downhill.

EDIT: I wish that it was somewhat theater themed seeing how it's self-titled.

I meant musically.

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Everyone said the same thing about ADTOE, and that ended up being miles better than anything post SFAM.

Not true, SDOIT is some of the best artwork for a DT album, SC was good too. With BCSL things just started to go downhill, and with this cover it looks like it's going to keep going downhill.

EDIT: I wish that it was somewhat theater themed seeing how it's self-titled.

I meant musically.

Still not true.

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EDIT: I wish that it was somewhat theater themed seeing how it's self-titled.


If a shot of the sun coming behind earth where you can see the sunrise (could be a sunset too) line day and night division isn't MAJESTIC enough for the forum, then I give up with the forum.

We do can see the MAJESTY symbol and not reference to the actual name of the band - I guess that's who they feel they really are! -

just my two cents.

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Disclaimer: I love the cover art and I'm not really bothered by the cut. But, that being said, imagine:




Something like this ?



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Disclaimer: I love the cover art and I'm not really bothered by the cut. But, that being said, imagine:




Something like this ?




Jesus !!! Good work !

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I do like how the light is behind the logo and the effect it creates.  However, the extra planet and red stuff is too much.  I really like the minimalistic approach.  Just the Majesty logo, which was the original name and on the very first album, and a little bit of perspective with the planet and barley any sun.

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Yeah, also the Majesty logo needs more Brooklyn Bridge

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Question, since I've seen the phrase thrown around a few times, wtf is a blast beat?
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Question, since I've seen the phrase thrown around a few times, wtf is a blast beat?

It's a type of drum beat that's basically really fast alternating bass drum / snare. The only time DT have ever used one is at 14:44 - 14:58 of A Nightmare to Remember. It's more common in death metal / black metal etc.
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Yeah, also the Majesty logo needs more Brooklyn Bridge

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Question, since I've seen the phrase thrown around a few times, wtf is a blast beat?

It's a type of drum beat that's basically really fast alternating bass drum / snare. The only time DT have ever used one is at 14:44 - 14:58 of A Nightmare to Remember. It's more common in death metal / black metal etc.

*goes to listen to A Nightmare to Remember because she can't remember how that part goes*
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Yeah, also the Majesty logo needs more Brooklyn Bridge

 :rollin

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Yeah, also the Majesty logo needs more Brooklyn Bridge

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And cow bell

And Portnoy peeking behind the planet.










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Question, since I've seen the phrase thrown around a few times, wtf is a blast beat?

It's a type of drum beat that's basically really fast alternating bass drum / snare. The only time DT have ever used one is at 14:44 - 14:58 of A Nightmare to Remember. It's more common in death metal / black metal etc.

*goes to listen to A Nightmare to Remember because she can't remember how that part goes*

I return after listening to that section, and I have one thing to say.

Fuck that shit. :biggrin:

Just kidding, I'm just personally not a big fan of that, though it's impressive as hell.
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Question, since I've seen the phrase thrown around a few times, wtf is a blast beat?

It's a type of drum beat that's basically really fast alternating bass drum / snare. The only time DT have ever used one is at 14:44 - 14:58 of A Nightmare to Remember. It's more common in death metal / black metal etc.

*goes to listen to A Nightmare to Remember because she can't remember how that part goes*

I return after listening to that section, and I have one thing to say.

Fuck that shit. :biggrin:

Just kidding, I'm just personally not a big fan of that, though it's impressive as hell.

Here's a good explanation, and he plays them slowly so you can get a good feel for what's actually going on:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18oaIznHoOI

Here's a solo where he incorporates a lot of blast beats:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg2EyWA0Jxc

Hope that helps.
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I like bands that tap into many genres, even if for a small part.  A little blast beat here, a little jazzy part there, a couple of heavy songs...keeps things interesting.  That's why I like Blur so much, they cover such a wide range of genres yet still sound like themselves.
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I can definitively say that Nef did not use the correct Majesty logo in his highly informative and entertaining artwork.
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When are you expecting a single from the new álbum? I'm eager to taste a Little bit of it :)

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Soon

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Official tour name has been released.

For those rooting for "Dream Theatour," sorry.  :lol
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I like bands that tap into many genres, even if for a small part.  A little blast beat here, a little jazzy part there, a couple of heavy songs...keeps things interesting. 
IIRC, the blast beat technique actually started in jazz.
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Some bands I am a fan of have used blast beats, but I think it would be wise for DT to stay away from them (although I bet MM could handle them better than MP did).
Official tour name has been released.

For those rooting for "Dream Theatour," sorry.  :lol
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Soon

Ughhh.  Not the "S" word again  ::)
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Hope the "soon" is in normal time, and not Valve time  :-\

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Cool titles. Excited.

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IIRC, the blast beat technique actually started in jazz.

That is correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_beat
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I'd say we'll hear the single before the pre-orders start. They have to sell the new material, and considering they've confirmed pre-orders will start this month... I'm calling it: we'll have a single before the end of july.

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I was really rooting for Dream Theatour, can we all call it like that until they cave in? :'( or at least produce an inside joke.

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Anyone else watching the drummer auditions to "scratch the itch" while we wait for snippets, RR studio videos, etc?  :biggrin:
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???  I thought you just spoke it into existence on Day 8.
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???  I thought you just spoke it into existence on Day 8.
Let the plebes have their myths.  It keeps them from becoming too disruptive.
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Sooo, how about that upcoming DT album? Can't wait.
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