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Meh I just always have. I didn't like A Change Of Seasons when i heard it. Maybe I should give it another go.

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:lol I love Octavarium so much - I dunno how anyone can not like it
Overlong intros, nonsensical lyrics and aimless instrumental sections aren't my thing :P (sorry to Octavarium lovers - I don't hate the song, but I just don't get the hype)

With all my respect but this is like a dedicated christian saying that the bible is not his thing !

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Quite ! How can you be a fan of DT and not like Long songs and instrumental sections ?   :police:


Besides - there's way more aimless instrumental stuff on later albums.

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So news time is going to be the same as usual: 5pm here in Italy, so i guess 11am in NY.

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:lol I love Octavarium so much - I dunno how anyone can not like it
Overlong intros, nonsensical lyrics and aimless instrumental sections aren't my thing :P (sorry to Octavarium lovers - I don't hate the song, but I just don't get the hype)
With all my respect but this is like a dedicated christian saying that the bible is not his thing !
Not every DT song has 4 minutes of Continuum noodling, lyrics like "seven seize the day tripper" and an instrumental section with the Jingle Bells melody and other random stuff ;) I never said I don't like long songs - ACOS is a top 3 song for me. That said, they have to be very well constructed and the longer the song is, the bigger the risk of it lacking cohesion is.

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It'll probably be a couple more hours and I'll be away from home then, only to see the immense amount of posts when I get back. Please post something within the next hour and I can do stuff without feeling left out :biggrin:
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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Now what if "over 20 minutes" actually means 80 minutes and we get a one album song like The Whirlwind?

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So news time is going to be the same as usual: 5pm here in Italy, so i guess 11am in NY.

Any source for this?

And if so, that's like 2 hours from now?

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Now what if "over 20 minutes" actually means 80 minutes and we get a one album song like The Whirlwind?

We've deducted from the in studio videos that the album will have 9 songs (and extras), one of which was actually labelled "Epic".
Also, if it was an 80 minute song, I doubt he'd say it's "over 20 minutes" despite that being technically true. You'd just say it has a really long song on it or something like that.
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Now what if "over 20 minutes" actually means 80 minutes and we get a one album song like The Whirlwind?

We already know there are +/- 9 tracks.


So news time is going to be the same as usual: 5pm here in Italy, so i guess 11am in NY.

Any source for this?

And if so, that's like 2 hours from now?


I'll stay up til early Wednesday morning for this in the UK. I'm not expecting it much sooner than that :P

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So news time is going to be the same as usual: 5pm here in Italy, so i guess 11am in NY.

Any source for this?

And if so, that's like 2 hours from now?

RR italy, and a Tweet from RR Canada.



Also, was DT.net outfit changed immediatly after OTBOA (in that occasion we saw for the first time the new artwork) came out?
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I'm very skeptical, then. The last time we had the promise of news posted on a non-US RR twitter, it turned out to be complete bullshit.

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I'm very skeptical, then. The last time we had the promise of news posted on a non-US RR twitter, it turned out to be complete bullshit.

RRusa confirmed the day, RRcanada only the time.

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Too many convergent hints. There's no doubt we are getting an announcement this time, and seeing how many national RR divisions are seemingly involeved and ready for it it looks like it won't be a minor one.
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OK bring it on then.

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Good call wasteland, here's me hoping for basically everything, except the music itself.
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It could be "in studio Pt2".

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It could be "in studio Pt2".

The Spirit Carries On Pt 2: John And The Chocolate Cake

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It could be "in studio Pt2".

The Spirit Carries On Pt 2: John And The Chocolate Cake

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It could be, true (and I wouldn't dislike it at all to happen), but I think artwork+tracklisting makes more sense. The album has just been completed and it's too early for a single.

Think of this: from here to the release date there are almost three months. We were given the album title and seminal press release one month ago, we get art and tracks now, single in one month and samples through September. It's a pre-release schedule that would make sense.

Which doesn't mean that one or more "In Studio" videos won't roll together with some or all of said pre-release landmarks.
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We're getting Studio pt II plus tracklist + artwork. Called it.
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We're getting Studio pt II plus tracklist + artwork. Called it.

I'll go one further. Snippets of the new album on the Pt2 vid

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Nah, we're getting a youtube video of John Petrucci describing the different exclusive items in the Dream Theater Deluxe Box Set while Jordan is using MorphWiz to mess with him.

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That sounds eerily familiar.

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 ADTOE was released on the 13th of september 2011 meanwhile DT12 is being released the 24th of september 2013. There are eleven days and two years between those two dates, just as there are eleven days and 2 years between the 28th of June 2011, the date when On The Backs of Angels was released and today.

I'm calling it, there's a single being released today!
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The last time they needed the single release for the summer tour...

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The last time they needed the single release for the summer tour...

Well that doesn't make the dates less valid does it?
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4-5 minute songs AND a 20+ min song? that just raised my excitement level beyond anything it was last time around!

I'll stay up til early Wednesday morning for this in the UK. I'm not expecting it much sooner than that :P
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I think i'll give it until 6 am before going to bed. Too bad it wont be Dec 25  :millahhhh

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Oh by the way, about those Deluxe boxes; remember how late they arrived last time? While a digital download the day before the street date was a good way to deal with the delays I'd prefer it if they were shipped along with the regular versions of the album this time.

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Oh by the way, about those Deluxe boxes; remember how late they arrived last time? While a digital download the day before the street date was a good way to deal with the delays I'd prefer it if they were shipped along with the regular versions of the album this time.
Was the vynal of the album available on its own last time round? Like as one of the first packages you could pre-order?
For that matter do modern DT albums sound good on vynal? Totally want to listen to this for the first time on vynal  :biggrin:

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So in two hours from now, right? Or one?

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One, I think.

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So in two hours from now, right? Or one?
One. 5PM in a Tuesday Morning!
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The last time they needed the single release for the summer tour...

Well that doesn't make the dates less valid does it?
Yes.  They aren't touring this summer, so no reason for such an early release of a single.

Not that they definitely won't release one now, there just isn't the same need to do so.
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The last time they needed the single release for the summer tour...

Well that doesn't make the dates less valid does it?
Yes.  They aren't touring this summer, so no reason for such an early release of a single.

Not that they definitely won't release one now, there just isn't the same need to do so.

I meant the weird connection between the dates, not the actual connection between the dates and the events surrounding them.
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